Rumor: 'Aggressive' plans for second-gen Apple Watch could ship 2M per month

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  • Reply 41 of 48
    ksecksec Posts: 1,569member
    I was actually expecting a similar performance Apple Watch 2 but thinner design.

    I still dont like having my watch to charge everyday or two. So I dont know if Digital Watch will ever be my thing.
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  • Reply 42 of 48
    mac_128mac_128 Posts: 3,454member
    melgross said:
    wizard69 said:
    I really doubt this will happen. 

    In in my mind this version is a proof of concept much like the first iPads and iPhones.  The fact that the watch was implemented on somewhat older technology processes highlights this.  

    As as for LiquidMetal that is likely a very cheap way to make a watch.  Machining SS is expensive.   Injection molded processes are pretty cheap once perfected.  
    The cost of Liquidmetal is so much higher than SS that the cost is very high. In that, molds need to be made. They cost tens of thousands each, and Apple would need quite a few. Molds wear out, particularly for high precision, and parts would need to be machined anyway. A Liquidmetal watch would sell at a premium. The question is how much of a premium.
    Well at least they would have something special they were selling for $17,000, that might actually be worth it, compared to a $2,000 watch they're selling for an over 8x mark up.
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  • Reply 43 of 48
    nolamacguynolamacguy Posts: 4,758member
    The single most influential improvement they could make with the 2nd generation model would be to dramatically improve the battery life. In my conversations with people who would have considered buying the 1st gen model, that was always the main reason they chose not to. A lot of people just can't get over the fact that there were digital watches 40 years ago that could go two years before needing a new battery. Smart watch or not, 2 days on a charge feels like a major step back. 
    non issue and no one I know who has one cares. you have to charge your phone daily, it takes no effort to charge watch next to bed at night. none. battery lasts 1-2 days, but unless it could get a week there's no reason why even doubling that would offer much value -- just an erratic charging schedule. 
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  • Reply 44 of 48
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,723member
    mac_128 said:
    melgross said:
    The cost of Liquidmetal is so much higher than SS that the cost is very high. In that, molds need to be made. They cost tens of thousands each, and Apple would need quite a few. Molds wear out, particularly for high precision, and parts would need to be machined anyway. A Liquidmetal watch would sell at a premium. The question is how much of a premium.
    Well at least they would have something special they were selling for $17,000, that might actually be worth it, compared to a $2,000 watch they're selling for an over 8x mark up.
    Gold sells at a premium. You can say that about every gold watch.
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  • Reply 45 of 48
    palegolaspalegolas Posts: 1,362member
    Wasn't there an experimental wireless charging patent that Apple was working on a while back, which supposedly was charging wirelessly over a longer distance? Some sort of low frequency magnetic fields or something. It'd be great if it just automatically started charging once you were in the range of a wireless charger. I, too, think it should last for more than 1-2 days.

    The big Apple Watch has got a 205mAh battery.
    The Apple Pencil has got a 3.82 V, 0.329 Wh (86mAh equivalient) battery and charges in what feels like no-time from the iPad. The least Apple could do is to offer quick-charging the Apple Watch from an iPhone.
    Of course it'd also be cool if it self charged through body movement ;-)
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  • Reply 46 of 48
    Rayz2016rayz2016 Posts: 6,957member
    melgross said:
    mac_128 said:
    Well at least they would have something special they were selling for $17,000, that might actually be worth it, compared to a $2,000 watch they're selling for an over 8x mark up.
    Gold sells at a premium. You can say that about every gold watch.
    If it's overpriced, it won't sell, so I never understand why people complain about it. 
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  • Reply 47 of 48
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,723member
    Rayz2016 said:
    melgross said:
    Gold sells at a premium. You can say that about every gold watch.
    If it's overpriced, it won't sell, so I never understand why people complain about it. 
    The word "overpriced" is what people who would never spend that much on such a product, think, even if it wasn't, in reality, feature and quality wise, overpriced. So people who buy $10 digital watches think everything that costs more is overpriced. From their perspective, it is, but not to the people who buy the higher priced products.

    so a SS Rolex costs a bit over $8,000, but the gold one (same movement), costs about $34,000. Is either one overpriced? Not for the market it sells in.
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  • Reply 48 of 48
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,723member

    palegolas said:
    Wasn't there an experimental wireless charging patent that Apple was working on a while back, which supposedly was charging wirelessly over a longer distance? Some sort of low frequency magnetic fields or something. It'd be great if it just automatically started charging once you were in the range of a wireless charger. I, too, think it should last for more than 1-2 days.

    The big Apple Watch has got a 205mAh battery.
    The Apple Pencil has got a 3.82 V, 0.329 Wh (86mAh equivalient) battery and charges in what feels like no-time from the iPad. The least Apple could do is to offer quick-charging the Apple Watch from an iPhone.
    Of course it'd also be cool if it self charged through body movement ;-)
    The problem I'm finding with the Pencil, and it's likely a result of the design, it that the battery dies even if I'm not using it, and there's really no way to know when it's fully charged.

    apple has several patents for wireless charging. Whether they will use any of them is something else.
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