Huawei working on internal OS to avoid 'the crutch of Android'

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  • Reply 21 of 28
    Dan_DilgerDan_Dilger Posts: 1,583member
    cnocbui said:
    not if companies don't make money from it. then its a failure. profit is the oxygen corporations breathe. anything else is fandroid chest-thumping.
    Rumour is that Samsung will have sold 25 million S7s, most of them Edges, by the end of the month.  They at least are making a decent profit.  Near impossible to tell how the Chinese manufacturers are doing.
    "Rumors" are not just ideas you invented while typing in comment on a blog. Samsung sold around 9.5 million S7 in Q1, which was surprising because they were only expected to sell 7M. Projecting that they sold 1.6x as many more in the quarter after launch for a total of 25 million is ridiculous, and assuming that "most of them Edges" is just fantasy grade nonsense. Samsung hasn't even recovered to the phone profits it had back in the days of S4. The majority of its phones are junk models, and a much greater share of its profits are now coming from non-phone businesses.  

    Samsung doesn't emphasize Android in its own marketing. It already ported as much easy hardware to Tizen as it can.  
    patchythepiratecali
  • Reply 22 of 28
    Dan_DilgerDan_Dilger Posts: 1,583member

    cropr said:
    The chances that Huawei will succeed in capturing 1 % with its own OS is around 0%.  Can you give me one Android user who would prefer the OS from Huawei iso a plain Android?
    Majority of Android buyers are getting a device that's cheap. Many don't run more than a couple apps. Look at how many people put up with crap Android apps for so long. It wouldn't be that hard for Samsung and Chinese firms to roll their own low end phone with an Android look and some placeholder apps for Facebook and the Chinese social media apps. Android serves no real and essential purpose to most hardware makers. Google was just doing a huge amount of busy work to get software working on a lot of things that didn't matter. Android on Intel? Android on Nvidia chips? Android on dozens of different graphic engine architectures? All that crap is now irrelevant. There's only smartphones based on ARM chips now, and it's not hard to support the few remaining GPUs. China's other companies have ripped off Qualcomm IP and copied everything else well enough to the point where they don't need Android. They just need a Linux distro and some copycat app ports. 
    patchythepiratecali
  • Reply 23 of 28
    dysamoriadysamoria Posts: 3,430member
    While relying on the constantly-shifting, made for servers (not end users), "free beer" OS tech crutch that is Linux...?
  • Reply 24 of 28
    why-why- Posts: 305member
    seriously though what is that colour? it reminds me of something......
  • Reply 25 of 28
    I think people are really underestimating the brand value of Android. People buy phones becuase of the little green bugdriod. Let's compare the complete and utter failure of windows phone. Windows phone was able to get cheap phones out but people where still buying the Android phones. It will not be possible to get another OS to market Android and iOS have to large a lead to make it worth it for the average consumer.
  • Reply 26 of 28
    cnocbuicnocbui Posts: 3,613member
    cnocbui said:
    Rumour is that Samsung will have sold 25 million S7s, most of them Edges, by the end of the month.  They at least are making a decent profit.  Near impossible to tell how the Chinese manufacturers are doing.
    "Rumors" are not just ideas you invented while typing in comment on a blog. Samsung sold around 9.5 million S7 in Q1, which was surprising because they were only expected to sell 7M. Projecting that they sold 1.6x as many more in the quarter after launch for a total of 25 million is ridiculous, and assuming that "most of them Edges" is just fantasy grade nonsense. Samsung hasn't even recovered to the phone profits it had back in the days of S4. The majority of its phones are junk models, and a much greater share of its profits are now coming from non-phone businesses.  

    Samsung doesn't emphasize Android in its own marketing. It already ported as much easy hardware to Tizen as it can.  
    The source of the rumour has just as much veracity as any of the endless rumour based articles AI is so happy to feature.   You are implying I just made it up, which is not the case. http://9to5google.com/2016/06/14/samsungs-galaxy-s7-and-s7-edge-said-25-millions/

    the S7 and S7 Edge are projected to cross the 25 million unit barrier by the end of this month.

    The projection comes from Daishin Securities, which estimated sales between 14.5-15 million units in the last three months, taking Samsung’s total flagship tally in the first half of the year to somewhere between 24-25 million.

    The total sales figures in Q2 may only represent a little over a 1% increase over Q1, but considering the high prices of the S7 and S7 Edge (which reportedly outsold the regular S7), Samsung can expect a solid increase in revenue and profit. Daishin is forecasting an average smartphone selling price increase from $217 in Q1 to $228 in Q2.

    Samsung's average smartphone selling price is expected to increase from $217 in Q1 to $228 in Q2.

    Daishin is therefore predicting an increase in Samsung’s Q2 operating profit from 3.89 trillion Won in Q1 to 4.27 trillion Won in Q2. Perhaps not surprisingly, Samsung’s share price hit its highest point ($1,230) since April last year.

    http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s7-sales-25-million-698383/

    The amount of Samsung's income being derived from products running Tizen, compared to that from their products running Android, would be a couple places to the right of the decimal point in the totals.

    I could point you to several references indicating early S7 sales were significantly in favour of the Edge version over the standard one.  This latest rumour is just reiterating the earlier reports and indicates that pattern has continued.  I think your strident denials represent the real fantasy.
    singularity
  • Reply 27 of 28
    cnocbuicnocbui Posts: 3,613member
    why- said:
    seriously though what is that colour? it reminds me of something......
    I think it's the colour of a clear autumn/winter sky after sunset and while there is still a bit of a glow whence it went   - what the Scot's call the gloaming.


  • Reply 28 of 28
    foggyhillfoggyhill Posts: 4,767member
    Bismark said:
    I think people are really underestimating the brand value of Android. People buy phones becuase of the little green bugdriod. Let's compare the complete and utter failure of windows phone. Windows phone was able to get cheap phones out but people where still buying the Android phones. It will not be possible to get another OS to market Android and iOS have to large a lead to make it worth it for the average consumer.
    They buy them because they're made by Samsung, in fact, almost all profits for Android phones are made by Samsung. That's it.
    The second biggest profit maker is LG and its pitifully small.
    Some Chinese companies not using Android without the Google services may also be doing some money.
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