Apple plans to build better iPhone cameras with new research center in France

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  • Reply 21 of 27
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    @tallestskil seems like your comment in response to mine was removed
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  • Reply 22 of 27
    irelandireland Posts: 17,802member
    wizard69 said:
    ireland said:
    I honestly thought their camera research was done.
    Seriously? Research is never done! I think somebody already said that but it is a basic fact.
    Did you believe me?
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  • Reply 23 of 27
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    @tallestskil seems like your comment in response to mine was removed
    Can’t imagine why¡ I just wish the mods would more evenly apply discretion to political garbage posted outside PoliticalOutsider. I’m totally in favor of keeping Apple threads Apple, but that requires the site owners to play ball with the idea, too.
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  • Reply 24 of 27
    foggyhillfoggyhill Posts: 4,767member
    cnocbui said:
    Sensor tech has seeing minimal advances over the last several years.  I have noticed people in another forum complain about new cameras having the same sensors, or ones with almost no meaningful improvements, being released and they see little point in them.

    Panasonic and Fuji have been working on an organic sensor which might deliver 18 stops of dynamic range, but that looks to being close to a decade away.  I will be surprised if a tiny outfit in France, or anywhere else, will get a jump on them or Sony.
    How do you account for the jumps from 720p, 1080p, 2K, and 4K for video? It's not from algorithms, gyros or glass. Sensor tech is exactly why Sony is mentioned alongside Canon and Nikon, they don't have better glass, or software; their camera hardware is nice though.

    Canon has the best glass, Sony has better sensors, especially at the low end. But, the difference isn't large really.
    Canon also has some of the best programmatic way of taking weird sensors data coupled with glass to provide long zoom which are bright at both end of the zoom.
    That's the their advantage on Sony in their pro compacts.
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  • Reply 25 of 27
    trillottrillot Posts: 19member
    Improving the iPhone's camera due to the improvement of each of its components, including software.
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  • Reply 26 of 27
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    trillot said:
    maestro64 said:
    It is all about better Optics and honestly the French aren't known for optics, that is the German and Japanese expertise. But really how much high tech has been known to originate in France.
    Sensors are not optic
    Essilor is one of the leader of Optic in the world and it's a French listed company. It worth around 30 billion dollar ! https://www.google.fr/search?espv=2&q=EPA:EI&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAOMQUOLRT9c3zEgqKysqS84CAIPUHz8QAAAA&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwilxMrsxPvNAhWKDxoKHQoxCf0QsRUIjQEwDg&biw=1920&bih=955
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  • Reply 27 of 27
    GNBguygnbguy Posts: 1member
    The source article, in French, states that Apple will work on Image Sensors and they picked Grenoble because of STMicroelectronics presence.
    ST was never known (at least not in the past 10 years) for having competitive sensors for photography and I seriously doubt they suddenly became competitive with Sony.
    Now, image sensors may very well mean something else. It may all be about image sensors for applications other than photography.
    Infrared image sensors are used for temperature sensing, presence detection, ... Multispectral image sensors are used to perform physicochemical analysis.
    As Apple focuses more and more on HealthKit and HomeKit, this sort of sensors would make a lot of sense on iPhone 8 or 9...
    I am ready to bet that this new research center isn't doing any work on the traditional camera sensor. This slot belongs to Sony for now and it will probably stay there for a long time as Sony keeps investing in this area much more than any other supplier, both in manufacturing capacity and in R&D.
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