Apple to debut standalone 5K monitor, MacBook Air refresh, 'pro' iPad software features, report say

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  • Reply 21 of 55
    Solisoli Posts: 10,038member
    I hope Apple offers a stand-alone ultra-widescreen monitor.


    edit: If Apple doesn’t do it, there’s always LG.
    edited August 2016
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  • Reply 22 of 55
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    But why would they have discontinued their existing display for months only to replace it later?
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  • Reply 23 of 55
    sflocalsflocal Posts: 6,156member
    Give me an 13-inch minimum, retina MBA-like laptop with 16GB RAM and a quad i7 and consider it another sale by me.

    I already got rid of my mid0-2014 rMBP in anticipation of the next refresh.  Just waiting now.
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  • Reply 24 of 55
    Solisoli Posts: 10,038member
    But why would they have discontinued their existing display for months only to replace it later?
    I don't understand your conundrum with a company halting production of a product that 1) outmoded, and 2) is no longer selling.
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  • Reply 25 of 55
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Soli said:
    I don't understand your conundrum with a company halting production of a product that 1) outmoded, and 2) is no longer selling.
    Of course it’s no longer selling; it has been discontinued! Was it literally not selling before they discontinued it? I can’t imagine, but they also don’t parse out accessory categories…
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  • Reply 26 of 55
    Solisoli Posts: 10,038member
    Soli said:
    I don't understand your conundrum with a company halting production of a product that 1) outmoded, and 2) is no longer selling.
    Of course it’s no longer selling; it has been discontinued! Was it literally not selling before they discontinued it? I can’t imagine, but they also don’t parse out accessory categories…
    Apple stopped producing supply once demand fell before a certain threshold. Once the supply ran out they stopped selling them. It hasn't been a good buy for a long time. As usual, it's aesthetic allowed Apple to sell them for a much higher price and for a lot longer than other brands with equal or better options.
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  • Reply 27 of 55
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,445member
    And there we go!   

    My only complaint about ultra-wide displays was the max size of 34". Today  LG announced a 38" model and new lower cost 34" 

    http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/LG/Monitors/UltraWide/21:9/Quad_HD/ips/displays/price/ifa-2016/lg-unveils-new-ultrawide-monitor-lineup-prices-start-at-599/34539


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  • Reply 28 of 55
    Solisoli Posts: 10,038member
    And there we go!   

    My only complaint about ultra-wide displays was the max size of 34". Today  LG announced a 38" model and new lower cost 34" 

    http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/LG/Monitors/UltraWide/21:9/Quad_HD/ips/displays/price/ifa-2016/lg-unveils-new-ultrawide-monitor-lineup-prices-start-at-599/34539
    I really don't care about a display designed for gaming, but it's still the best option I've seen.
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  • Reply 29 of 55
    jkichlinejkichline Posts: 1,369member
    Here's what I would love to see.. 

    I love the portability of my 13" MBP. But it's a 2013. I want power, portability and battery life. But how is that possible?

    Heres the trick... I only really need power when I'm at my desk processing video on a big monitor. Make the cinema display "active" so not only does it handle GPU, but also acts as a usable CPU too for supported apps. This isn't unheard of as Apple had distributed compute systems before. Imagine having a high end 5K display and the power of a pro desktop on a super-thin laptop that's super portable and has great battery life.

    Talk about halo effect...
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  • Reply 30 of 55
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Soli said:
    Apple stopped producing supply once demand fell before a certain threshold.
    So shouldn’t they have stopped selling the Mac Pro a year ago and just sat on their hands until Intel releases eventually maybe we’ll see the next chip?
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  • Reply 31 of 55
    Solisoli Posts: 10,038member
    Soli said:
    Apple stopped producing supply once demand fell before a certain threshold.
    So shouldn’t they have stopped selling the Mac Pro a year ago and just sat on their hands until Intel releases eventually maybe we’ll see the next chip?
    Why would they do that if 1) they are still selling, and 2) they have them to sell? 
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  • Reply 32 of 55
    dysamoriadysamoria Posts: 3,430member
    staticx57 said:
    adrayven said:
    Looks like a 13"  MBP is in the batter's box to replace my trusty 13" MBA.  

    I'd consider the 15" but these refreshes won't be based on Kaby Lake processors so I'd rather keep the money in my pocket and perhaps upgrade to a 15" in a couple of years. 

    I love love love the idea of a dynamic OLED strip and Touch ID support.  Hopefully developers and end users will have some great customizing functionality. 

    5k display sounds great...not at $999.  I think the price premium for 5k vs 4k doesn't make sense.   
    To drive 5k, those monitors will HAVE to have built in GPU's.. Just no way around that. The TB3 / DP spec's don't support 5k at all; much less the timing chip required.. The only way that is possible, right now, is the custom chip timing chip they used in the 5k iMac itself, which requires the GPU to be there.. This will be an interesting release.
    This is incorrect. No custom timing chip is required these days. Displayport 1.3 is out and even 1.4 is out and they both support 5K displays just fine. Even the old displayport 1.2 supported 5K if you connect two cables. USB-C supports displayport 1.3
    And which chipset from Intel supports even DP 1.3?
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  • Reply 33 of 55
    ireland said:
    Bloomberg means Mark Gurman, who I trust a heck of a lot more than Ming-Chi. 

    While it's somewhat unexpected, it's not completely out of character to do an Air refresh; they did it with the white MacBooks after the aluminum unibody model had been introduced. 
    MacBook should replace the 11" MacBook Air. Not the MBA lineup.
     
    The Air is a better computer than the MacBook. Larger display (I honestly wouldn't watch a film on a screen smaller than the MBA), nicer keyboard travel, SD Card and extra ports, better battery life, more performance, magnetic charger. The MacBook has a better display and is thinner/lighter. Swap out MBA ports for a few thunderbolt 3/USBc ports and give it Retina and then you're talking. MB is overpriced for what it is: base model €1,499 ($1,677) in Ireland. Should be offered in 128 GB for $999 (at most). MBA should be Retina only and begin with 128 GB for $1,299 (at most).
    My only critique of MB is, keyboard is NOT that great.....
    That has been my only complaint since day one. As a touch typist, it slows me way down.....
    Totally agree. I use my MBP for screenwriting,  it's near its end and have tried the new MacBook multiple times at Apple Grove and it just doesn't feel right.at.all. Somebody (who I am pretty sure does not type a lot) thought the 'butterfly' key would be a needed innovation, but I'm constantly not feeling the key was hit, that the pressure required does not feel native to a keyboard and the layout is really weird, and I've adapted to some pretty unusual portable keyboards. Hoping they let go of somebody's idea that an innovative key design/feel is better.
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  • Reply 34 of 55
    Soli said:
    Apple stopped producing supply once demand fell before a certain threshold.
    So shouldn’t they have stopped selling the Mac Pro a year ago and just sat on their hands until Intel releases eventually maybe we’ll see the next chip?


    I assume they still haven't fallen below the threshold that makes it worth their while.


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  • Reply 35 of 55
    wizard69 said:
    Looks like a 13"  MBP is in the batter's box to replace my trusty 13" MBA.  

    I'd consider the 15" but these refreshes won't be based on Kaby Lake processors so I'd rather keep the money in my pocket and perhaps upgrade to a 15" in a couple of years. 

    I love love love the idea of a dynamic OLED strip and Touch ID support.  Hopefully developers and end users will have some great customizing functionality. 

    5k display sounds great...not at $999.  I think the price premium for 5k vs 4k doesn't make sense.   
    This report says no MBP yet. If you project ahead there is a good possibility that Apple is actually waiting for Intel to deliver Kaby Lake.   If you are waiting for a MBP you might have to wait a few months longer.

    AS for a 5K display we will have to wait and see.    Frankly I don't see a big draw unless it has the rumored built in GPU to drive the display.   Most Macs simply can't drive a display of that resolution without the molasses effect taking place.  So I don't see a Apple shopping huge numbers of these without the rumored GPU.    It will be interesting to see what Apple actually ships.
    It does mention the Macbook Pro and for the umpteenth time, Kaby Lake chips suitable for the Macbook Pro wont be coming until mid 2017, Thunderbolt 3 is likely going to be supported with an addon controller.

    The refreshed Mac hardware line includes new versions of the iMac desktop, MacBook Air laptop, and a 5K standalone monitor in collaboration with LG Electronics Inc., in addition to a thinner MacBook Pro laptop.


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  • Reply 36 of 55
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Soli said:
    Why would they do that if 1) they are still selling, and 2) they have them to sell? 
    And so who says the displays weren’t selling? IF they’re making a replacement, THEY OBVIOUSLY WERE.
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  • Reply 37 of 55
    Solisoli Posts: 10,038member
    Soli said:
    Why would they do that if 1) they are still selling, and 2) they have them to sell? 
    And so who says the displays weren’t selling?
    The market says they weren't selling in a high enough quantity to warrant additional manufacturing. 

    You know, this is rudimentary stuff that shouldn't require you to ask questions.
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  • Reply 38 of 55
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Soli said:
    You know, this is rudimentary stuff that shouldn't require you to ask questions.
    Which is why I’m having such a hard time understanding the bullshit I’m being told.
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  • Reply 39 of 55
    Solisoli Posts: 10,038member
    Soli said:
    You know, this is rudimentary stuff that shouldn't require you to ask questions.
    Which is why I’m having such a hard time understanding the bullshit I’m being told.
    What exactly do you think is bullshit when you're told that a company won't continue to produce a product if it's no longer financial viable for them to do so?

    We saw this with the original iPhone months before the iPhone 3G went on sale. That was probably more to do with needing Foxconn to shift their manufacturing over to the next generation iPhone rather than not being able to move the units if they had been made or not having access to components at a reasonable rate, but the end result is the same. Do you really think that manufacturing the iPhone 3G was a dumb move on Apple's part?
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  • Reply 40 of 55
    ireland said:
    Bloomberg means Mark Gurman, who I trust a heck of a lot more than Ming-Chi. 

    While it's somewhat unexpected, it's not completely out of character to do an Air refresh; they did it with the white MacBooks after the aluminum unibody model had been introduced. 
    MacBook should replace the 11" MacBook Air. Not the MBA lineup.
     
    The Air is a better computer than the MacBook. Larger display (I wouldn't watch a film on smaller), nicer keyboard travel, SD Card and extra ports, better battery life, more performance, magnetic charger. The MacBook has a better display and is thinner/lighter. Swap out MBA ports for a few thunderbolt 3 ones, give it a 14" Retina display (narrow bezel) and a tweaked keyboard design and then you're talking. MB is overpriced for what it is: base model €1,499 ($1,677) in Ireland. Should be offered in 128 GB for $999. MBA should be Retina only and begin with 128 GB for $1,299. New MBP should begin at $1,799 for 256 GB model and should be offered in one screen size: 16" with narrow bezel. All in the name of clarifying the lineup. MacBook 12", Air 14", Pro 16". More ports, more power and more features as you go.
    I agree with everything you said except the 16" MBP - I love my 13" MBP - maybe a bit bigger with narrow bezel but for me its the perfect picture between portability and power
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