1. If Apple is forced to manufacture in the US, also force the Chinese ripoff companies to do so.
2. Ban technology that infringe on American company's patents.
No-one can force a company to manufacture in the US. What's in the country's interests is that companies CHOOSE to manufacture in the US - many ways to achieve this, mostly down to taxes and red-tape. This was a big part of Trump's campaign so I expect him to follow the international trade hard lines that countries like China and India employ, raising import taxes and giving tax breaks for local manufacturing/employment etc.
Some of that change, such as immigration, creates anxiety and uncertainty
While I have doubts it will happen, slamming the door on these scumbags abusing the H1B visas would be nice.
Agreed...my former company let 180 IT staffs go and made them train those coming from India thru H1B Visa 1 mo before they were let go! What a fucking disgrace!
Tim should go, regardless of his personal politics. It's a no-brainer.
It's not a no-brainer. CEOs get many things etched in stone many months -- sometimes years -- ahead, and they can't "jump" because some politician says so or woke up with a sudden idea. Get real.
Come on...if there is a legitimate opportunity to sit down with the President-elect of the United States (not "some politician") to talk about concerns and hopes with your industry peers, you go. Especially Apple with so much offshore production, revenue, and cash.
Schedules easily can change, even for a CEO, when something like this arises.
Tim should go, regardless of his personal politics. It's a no-brainer.
It's not a no-brainer. CEOs get many things etched in stone many months -- sometimes years -- ahead, and they can't "jump" because some politician says so or woke up with a sudden idea. Get real.
Come on...if there is a legitimate opportunity to sit down with the President-elect of the United States (not "some politician") to talk about concerns and hopes with your industry peers, you go. Especially Apple with so much offshore production, revenue, and cash.
Schedules easily can change, even for a CEO, when something like this arises.
Nothing is really "etched in stone"
Absolutely agree. Tim should think hard about this one.
Tim should go, regardless of his personal politics. It's a no-brainer.
It's not a no-brainer. CEOs get many things etched in stone many months -- sometimes years -- ahead, and they can't "jump" because some politician says so or woke up with a sudden idea. Get real.
Come on...if there is a legitimate opportunity to sit down with the President-elect of the United States (not "some politician") to talk about concerns and hopes with your industry peers, you go. Especially Apple with so much offshore production, revenue, and cash.
Schedules easily can change, even for a CEO, when something like this arises.
Nothing is really "etched in stone"
Absolutely agree. Tim should think hard about this one.
You can't shape the dialog if you are not there. I think Trump is also pro repatriation of company money, and even if not, is still a good time to bend the ear of the next president as a collective group on that and other matters.
Folks, Trade is not a bad thing and Trump knows this, The issue that exist today is not that US companies build in other countries, the issue is the fact that countries like China and Mexico do not buy US made products. China forces US companies to build product in china to be sold in China, Also, US company can not hold majority ownership in any company in China, the Chinese have to hold 51% of the business, not true in the US. If the US start the discussion with other countries have to buy US made goods and service then we will be on a level playing field.
One example, there was US company that made Wind Power Generation systems and their technology was the control system that controls the wind turbine. China made this company manufacture the control system in China to win business in China. This company was forces to set up a JV in China to build the control systems, turns out the JV who was 51% owned by the Chinese stole all the IP on the control system and began building them without the US companies involvement and then turned around and sold the systems in the US to various government entities. The US company is now out of business and trying to sue to recover their IP, and our government awarded the business to the lowest bidder which was JV Chinese company.
This is the problem that need to be fix, what every China requires to sell product in their market the same should be for China companies, they can not import unless the set up shop in the US and someone from the US have to have 51% ownership. This is not all about where is the cheap labor as everyone thinks, China is not as cheep as it was, US company can compete on price these days depending on the product and whether the manufacture can easily be automated.
An interesting perspective, and I know from my experience in the telecom sector, that rampant IP abuse happens with Chinese companies (many anecdotal accounts of stolen IP). There was a big story a number years back after Nortel went bankrupt about all of the bugs/taps found in their HQ and the "evidence" was that it was from Chinese competition. Look also to the Cisco / Huawei case - caught red handed copying the code.
The question of course is how to structure things so as not to create a wave of backlash protectionism around the globe.
I work in the computer and telecom industry as well as the Video delivery hardware/software business and I have lots of experience with China and manufacturing. Stolen IP is not anecdotal, there are lots of documented cases, but most are not in public view since no company really wants their investors knowing their IP has been stolen. Walls Street assigns value to this IP to the stock in the company so it has market impact.
The company I worked for had a documented case of a Chinese National who worked for us in the US and we also had China operations. This individual stolen the IC chip design for a DSP chip for communications, left the company and went to work for a new start up Semi conductor company in China who got into the DSP business literally over night. Once we saw what the chip could do we knew something was up. We got sample began testing them and decap the chip and found our company logo in the chip artwork. It was in a discreet area so unless you knew it was there you would not find it. Luck for us the person who stole it did not know about this they did change some other aspect of the chip so it was not obvious the design was stolen. After we figure this out, and the fact our company had a long working relationship with China we turn this evidence over the Chinese government and before we knew it the company no longer existed and the person who stole it disappeared.
China kind of turns a blind eye to the stealing and copying, but they also do not want to get catch out right either. Apple and China walk a fine line, we all know that iPhones knock offs are sold in china, but if Apple finds them and complains about it, China stops it, but only in the markets where Apple selling their phones, there are places in China where people can not afford and iphone so China let it go there.
US does not have to be protectionism minded, they just need to make other countries buy US goods and products. Mexico does but some stuff, but it mostly raw materials or parts which they use to make products they sell back into the US. They do not buy stuff which stays in their country, same is true for China. Japan is no different, but the thing I noticed in China was you see US brand names all over the place, Japan you hardly see any US brands. So you would think China does in fact buy US products, they do not those brand names are made in China not in the US, and the US companies do not make the margins they would if was made in the US then sold in China. Plus the brand names could be knockoff for all you know sold out the back door of the same company making it for the US company.
Yeah, and he wont win the election either! Not a chance!
Oh, wait!
Your ramblings are merely delusional leftist thoughts and wishes that have no basis in reality.
Enjoy your rubber padded room.
Trump is here to stay for at least 8 years!
I am going to put money on him to win in 4 years, just like I did in this election, and I will make a nice profit, just like I did this time.
Meanwhile, leftists will only get more and more violent and more delusional as time passes. We will smack them all down.
yeah we have a bunch of Clintonians who are surffering from TRAD (Trump Rejection Acceptance Disorder) which need to join the Alt-left support groups who happen them get over their irrational fear people with they claim have all kinds isms.
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Thats why Samsung is on the GSA approved list for government purchase and Apple is not.
Come on...if there is a legitimate opportunity to sit down with the President-elect of the United States (not "some politician") to talk about concerns and hopes with your industry peers, you go. Especially Apple with so much offshore production, revenue, and cash.
Schedules easily can change, even for a CEO, when something like this arises.
Nothing is really "etched in stone"
I work in the computer and telecom industry as well as the Video delivery hardware/software business and I have lots of experience with China and manufacturing. Stolen IP is not anecdotal, there are lots of documented cases, but most are not in public view since no company really wants their investors knowing their IP has been stolen. Walls Street assigns value to this IP to the stock in the company so it has market impact.
The company I worked for had a documented case of a Chinese National who worked for us in the US and we also had China operations. This individual stolen the IC chip design for a DSP chip for communications, left the company and went to work for a new start up Semi conductor company in China who got into the DSP business literally over night. Once we saw what the chip could do we knew something was up. We got sample began testing them and decap the chip and found our company logo in the chip artwork. It was in a discreet area so unless you knew it was there you would not find it. Luck for us the person who stole it did not know about this they did change some other aspect of the chip so it was not obvious the design was stolen. After we figure this out, and the fact our company had a long working relationship with China we turn this evidence over the Chinese government and before we knew it the company no longer existed and the person who stole it disappeared.
China kind of turns a blind eye to the stealing and copying, but they also do not want to get catch out right either. Apple and China walk a fine line, we all know that iPhones knock offs are sold in china, but if Apple finds them and complains about it, China stops it, but only in the markets where Apple selling their phones, there are places in China where people can not afford and iphone so China let it go there.
US does not have to be protectionism minded, they just need to make other countries buy US goods and products. Mexico does but some stuff, but it mostly raw materials or parts which they use to make products they sell back into the US. They do not buy stuff which stays in their country, same is true for China. Japan is no different, but the thing I noticed in China was you see US brand names all over the place, Japan you hardly see any US brands. So you would think China does in fact buy US products, they do not those brand names are made in China not in the US, and the US companies do not make the margins they would if was made in the US then sold in China. Plus the brand names could be knockoff for all you know sold out the back door of the same company making it for the US company.