Apple yanks watchOS 3.1.1 update following user complaints

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  • Reply 41 of 53
    My Watch updated fine but for some reason now the messages notifications are all phone numbers and not the contacts name. Weird.
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  • Reply 42 of 53
    macxpressmacxpress Posts: 6,006member
    evilution said:
    This doesn't happen on Android.
    (I'm talking about updates).
    Correct, because Android doesn't get updates. ;)
    edited December 2016
    avon b7StrangeDayswatto_cobra
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  • Reply 43 of 53
    macxpress said:
    evilution said:
    This doesn't happen on Android.
    (I'm talking about updates).
    Correct, because Android doesn't get updates. ;)
    I'd rather not have an update than have a bricked device that doesn't work.  ;)
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  • Reply 44 of 53
    jbdragonjbdragon Posts: 2,315member
    I just happen to forget about the update for my Original Apple watch. So I guess I'll be waiting until Apple releases it once again. My question is how does Apple end up with these issues? They 100% control everything. It's their hardware. It's their Software. It's just seems strange to me to have these Upgrade issues which seems to almost always happen. Worse, you do the proper upgrade and it bricks your device.
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  • Reply 45 of 53
    sphericspheric Posts: 2,800member
    spheric said:
    grangerfx said:
    Sure OK but here is the thing: Apple has yanked a LOT of updates lately for this exact reason. It points to a systemic problem in their quality control and testing. Apple may need to go to a slow rollout rather than an all at once update system. They are just not good enough to make that kind of update reliable.
    Yeah, that iTunes update that completely wiped all attached external drives with a "space" character in their name was really the last straw. 

    Back in 2001.

    http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/OSX/itunes2_erased_drives.html
    Yeah I'm sure that really matters to Series 2 owners who had their device bricked. A real fan of the company should have the highest expectations and honestly is it really expecting that much to assume when you update software it won't brick your device?  
    Sorry, I was responding to the general tone that buggy updates are somehow a recent phenomenon that "wouldn't have happened under Steve". 

    Rereading the post I responded to, I see that grangerfx wasn't actually whining in that vein. 
    StrangeDays
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  • Reply 46 of 53
    linkmanlinkman Posts: 1,070member
    Hold Apple to higher standards. It's not like they're not capable of it. You really want to settle for Apple being mediocre because the competition is crap?
    The competition is mostly junk and it doesn't take much to make Apple look good.

    This reminds me of some time spent training and fighting with some foreign armies -- the intensity of training and general effort paled in comparison to ours (USA). This definitely showed in combat. It also led to some of my tactics being greatly refined when I understood that they (and our enemies) didn't train at night or in foul weather so just guess when my attacks would be planned to occur?
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  • Reply 47 of 53
    eightzeroeightzero Posts: 3,208member
    Boy...bricked devices...I just don't know...
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  • Reply 48 of 53
    twa440 said:
    macxpress said:
    Is this even a surprise? Apple updates are all junk now. They can't do anything right. They are however very good at bricking your apple products. Apple used to be good. Those days are gone, along with Steve Jobs. Now it's just garbage in, garbage out.
    Yes, because there were NEVER bad updates with Steve were here... Right! Nice troll post BTW!
    I can't recall any products being bricked when Steve was around but, maybe so. I know I've never seen six updates in two years that caused products to be bricked.
    I think it's worth considering that iOS is 10x more complicated than it used to be, with 10x more users.
    watto_cobra
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  • Reply 49 of 53
    evilution said:
    This doesn't happen on Android.
    (I'm talking about updates).
    Yes because no one gets updates on Android. 
    watto_cobra
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  • Reply 50 of 53

    plankton said:
    macOSx and iOS have fairy large external seed and public beta test teams who do report hundreds of bugs during the OS development cycle. Even so a few bugs still get through, which is the nature of software.
    tvOS and watchOS have no such external seed and beta test teams—there is only internal testing and a little testing by people with developer accounts.  Consequently, it is not surprising there are a few more problems with tvOS and watchOS. The problem will be fixed but that is little consolation for those who got bit this time.
    No, that's the nature of crappy software and crappy quality.   Don't use Microsoft as a standard.
    You're not a software developer, are you? I am, professionally. It is 100% absolute fact that "a few bugs still get through" and that is "the nature of software". Why? Because humans, and complexity. It is not indicative of "crappy software" as you put it.
    watto_cobra
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  • Reply 51 of 53


    plankton said:
    macOSx and iOS have fairy large external seed and public beta test teams who do report hundreds of bugs during the OS development cycle. Even so a few bugs still get through, which is the nature of software.
    tvOS and watchOS have no such external seed and beta test teams—there is only internal testing and a little testing by people with developer accounts.  Consequently, it is not surprising there are a few more problems with tvOS and watchOS. The problem will be fixed but that is little consolation for those who got bit this time.
    No, that's the nature of crappy software and crappy quality.   Don't use Microsoft as a standard.
    One good thing of the 10.2 update is because of the software bug in the TV app I found a really good 3rd party video player. So the TV app has be relegated to a junk folder. Maybe one day Apple will realize not every iOS device owner buys their media on iTunes or subscribes to Apple Music.
    TV app leverages iTunes content and third-party TV apps. Should Apple stop developing Apps for their ecosystem...just because? The fact that you can use a third party video player is fine and a feature of iOS, but I fail to see why that means Apple shouldn't build tools for their own ecosystem just because you don't personally us it.
    watto_cobra
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  • Reply 52 of 53


    plankton said:
    macOSx and iOS have fairy large external seed and public beta test teams who do report hundreds of bugs during the OS development cycle. Even so a few bugs still get through, which is the nature of software.
    tvOS and watchOS have no such external seed and beta test teams—there is only internal testing and a little testing by people with developer accounts.  Consequently, it is not surprising there are a few more problems with tvOS and watchOS. The problem will be fixed but that is little consolation for those who got bit this time.
    No, that's the nature of crappy software and crappy quality.   Don't use Microsoft as a standard.
    One good thing of the 10.2 update is because of the software bug in the TV app I found a really good 3rd party video player. So the TV app has be relegated to a junk folder. Maybe one day Apple will realize not every iOS device owner buys their media on iTunes or subscribes to Apple Music.
    TV app leverages iTunes content and third-party TV apps. Should Apple stop developing Apps for their ecosystem...just because? The fact that you can use a third party video player is fine and a feature of iOS, but I fail to see why that means Apple shouldn't build tools for their own ecosystem just because you don't personally us it.
    I never said Apple shouldn't build tools for their ecosystem. The problem is when they replace existing apps  with solutions that exclusively benefit their ecosystem. Why not leave the music and video apps alone and put new apps on the App Store for Music and TV? Anyway their software bug with the TV app pushed me to a 3rd party app and pushed the TV app to a junk folder.
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  • Reply 53 of 53
    It would be interesting to know just how rare this problem is. I haven't seen any user reports of this problem on other Apple-related websites. FWIW, my AW2 updated just fine and in fact the update seems to have fixed a problem with fitness achievement notifications.
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