Jobs' comments on smaller tablets was based on the constraints of the day, which were pre-high-res panels. At the time he was right, today he would not be; surely he would have little problem pivoting when the time was right as he had many times before.
The only "constraints" Steve Jobs spoke of in public were the constraints of tablets smaller than the 10" iPad. Jobs said that remained true even if smaller tablet screens had higher resolutions. Here is Steve Jobs himself saying so:
Watching Steve Jobs introduce the IPhone and 3 things struck me: 1) This was NOT about him or anything he had done. It was about the product and what it would do for US! Total humility.
But more relevant to today: 2) It ported OSX (MacOS) to the IPhone 3) It put "Desktop Class" power on the IPhone.
So obviously Steve Jobs saw the connection between what would become MacOS and IOS -- that they were just different versions of the same thing. So, Why does today's Apple insist that they will forever remain separate and different? That they will never be merged -- even though IOS started as a variation of MacOS?
Have they lost the vision and common sense that Jobs nutured?
p.s. Watch the video starting at the 29 minute mark where Jobs equates the mouse and touch as just different UI's -- variations on a theme. Then he introduces that OSX was ported to the IPhone and provides it with "Desktop Class" applications.
Let's remember that they didn't put macOS onto the iPhone or iPad. They also didn't put iOS on the Watch. They took core elements and then created and entirely new OS for that HW and UI. It should be clear that a smartphone OS will NEVER be the same OS as on a 27" iMac.
But he did, in his own words, put OSX (aka MacOS) on the IPhone. Yes, it was an adaptation of OSX, but to call an adaptation a whole new OS is a matter of semantics rather than substance.
Watching Steve Jobs introduce the IPhone and 3 things struck me: 1) This was NOT about him or anything he had done. It was about the product and what it would do for US! Total humility.
But more relevant to today: 2) It ported OSX (MacOS) to the IPhone 3) It put "Desktop Class" power on the IPhone.
So obviously Steve Jobs saw the connection between what would become MacOS and IOS -- that they were just different versions of the same thing. So, Why does today's Apple insist that they will forever remain separate and different? That they will never be merged -- even though IOS started as a variation of MacOS?
Have they lost the vision and common sense that Jobs nutured?
p.s. Watch the video starting at the 29 minute mark where Jobs equates the mouse and touch as just different UI's -- variations on a theme. Then he introduces that OSX was ported to the IPhone and provides it with "Desktop Class" applications.
You're misunderstanding Jobs, who himself stressed that OS X on a touchscreen was a terrible idea.
Forking branches of code from one source doesnt suddenly mandate their implementations and UI be identical. The kernel is the power underneath, but the UI is widely dependent on the interface and form factor. Example -- watchOS is derived from iOS which is derived from OS X. Should the watchOS UI look like OS X with a desktop, folders metaphor, dock, etc? No, that would be absurd, the screen is way too small. For these same reason iOS devices needn't look like OS X devices. UI is dependent on form factor and use cases, not what's under the hood.
According to Jobs, he did not "fork branches of code". He ported OSX (aka macOS) to the IPhone.
The important thing to realize is that, while he changed the way the user interacts with the OS (from a mouse & physical keyboard to a finger and virtual keyboard), the basic OS remained and remains the same. Touch vs Mouse is a FEATURE of the OS, it is not the OS.
Which, when today's Apple says that they will never use IOS (touch interface) on a laptop, they are talking about that feature of the OS, not the OS itself.
Further, when Apple of today says that they will never use IOS on a laptop form factor or use macOS on a tablet form factor, they are talking about how the user provides input to that particular form factor (with a finger or a mouse) -- NOT the OS.
Obviously the laptop form factor has its benefits and the tablet its benefits. That does not say that, when the Axx processor is powerful enough that Apple will not produce a unit that can switch from tablet to laptop and back again using an OS capable of either/or. At that time OSX and IOS will, once again, be one.
The magic of Jobs was to stretch existing technology to the limits to meet user needs. He would not have restricted himself to some arbitrary limitation.
According to Jobs, he did not "fork branches of code". He ported OSX (aka macOS) to the IPhone.
The important thing to realize is that, while he changed the way the user interacts with the OS (from a mouse & physical keyboard to a finger and virtual keyboard), the basic OS remained and remains the same. Touch vs Mouse is a FEATURE of the OS, it is not the OS.
Which, when today's Apple says that they will never use IOS (touch interface) on a laptop, they are talking about that feature of the OS, not the OS itself.
Further, when Apple of today says that they will never use IOS on a laptop form factor or use macOS on a tablet form factor, they are talking about how the user provides input to that particular form factor (with a finger or a mouse) -- NOT the OS.
Obviously the laptop form factor has its benefits and the tablet its benefits. That does not say that, when the Axx processor is powerful enough that Apple will not produce a unit that can switch from tablet to laptop and back again using an OS capable of either/or. At that time OSX and IOS will, once again, be one.
The magic of Jobs was to stretch existing technology to the limits to meet user needs. He would not have restricted himself to some arbitrary limitation.
You really need to understand, or at least define what the operating system is before discussing the differences and similarities of the numerous variants of UNIX. By your line of reasoning all Apple devices are actually running BSD. Go watch a UNIX computer boot sequence and try to understand the six stages required to get to run level 5 where the user actually has a log in prompt. You'll notice that the kernel doesn't even get called until the fourth stage where it is starting to load hardware drivers, which will obviously be different from device to device. Then later on it starts loading run level daemons which are different as well depending on the device.
The point is the device isn't even half way booted and there are already significant differences in the operating systems depending on the device.
Watching Steve Jobs introduce the IPhone and 3 things struck me: 1) This was NOT about him or anything he had done. It was about the product and what it would do for US! Total humility.
But more relevant to today: 2) It ported OSX (MacOS) to the IPhone 3) It put "Desktop Class" power on the IPhone.
So obviously Steve Jobs saw the connection between what would become MacOS and IOS -- that they were just different versions of the same thing. So, Why does today's Apple insist that they will forever remain separate and different? That they will never be merged -- even though IOS started as a variation of MacOS?
Have they lost the vision and common sense that Jobs nutured?
p.s. Watch the video starting at the 29 minute mark where Jobs equates the mouse and touch as just different UI's -- variations on a theme. Then he introduces that OSX was ported to the IPhone and provides it with "Desktop Class" applications.
Let's remember that they didn't put macOS onto the iPhone or iPad. They also didn't put iOS on the Watch. They took core elements and then created and entirely new OS for that HW and UI. It should be clear that a smartphone OS will NEVER be the same OS as on a 27" iMac.
But he did, in his own words, put OSX (aka MacOS) on the IPhone. Yes, it was an adaptation of OSX, but to call an adaptation a whole new OS is a matter of semantics rather than substance.
You don't think that iOS or watchOS are different OSes than macOS, then when you do create a demarcation point for an OS? They are all under the OS X umbrella and all run Darwin OS, but it's not just a "matter of semantics."
Based on your comments, you want that touchbarOS, watchOS, tvOS, iOS for iPhone, iOS for iPad, macOS, and every other branch of OS X to be powerful and robust enough to run a Mac Pro while being able to run the T-1 chip in the new MBPs because they're all based on the same OS X core. I can't even wrap my head around why you think that makes sense. Apple has done a great job in consolidating iOS updates to get more inline with macOS updates, but they still have different downloads for the small number of different HW they offer. What you're asking for will NEVER happen.
Now, what could happen is that Apple includes a way to dock a mobile device so that it outputs a new UI, like a desktop UI. This has been tried for decades and has failed for decades, but ARM performance and Apple's HW and SW designs has now put this into a realm of possibility. This is still just an auxiliary UI for iOS with Cocoa Touch, and NOT a replacement for macOS. Note that this already exists with CarPlay, which is just an auxiliary Apple UI for iOS for your car.
Watching Steve Jobs introduce the IPhone and 3 things struck me: 1) This was NOT about him or anything he had done. It was about the product and what it would do for US! Total humility.
But more relevant to today: 2) It ported OSX (MacOS) to the IPhone 3) It put "Desktop Class" power on the IPhone.
So obviously Steve Jobs saw the connection between what would become MacOS and IOS -- that they were just different versions of the same thing. So, Why does today's Apple insist that they will forever remain separate and different? That they will never be merged -- even though IOS started as a variation of MacOS?
Have they lost the vision and common sense that Jobs nutured?
p.s. Watch the video starting at the 29 minute mark where Jobs equates the mouse and touch as just different UI's -- variations on a theme. Then he introduces that OSX was ported to the IPhone and provides it with "Desktop Class" applications.
Let's remember that they didn't put macOS onto the iPhone or iPad. They also didn't put iOS on the Watch. They took core elements and then created and entirely new OS for that HW and UI. It should be clear that a smartphone OS will NEVER be the same OS as on a 27" iMac.
But he did, in his own words, put OSX (aka MacOS) on the IPhone. Yes, it was an adaptation of OSX, but to call an adaptation a whole new OS is a matter of semantics rather than substance.
You don't think that iOS or watchOS are different OSes than macOS, then when you do create a demarcation point for an OS? They are all under the OS X umbrella and all run Darwin OS, but it's not just a "matter of semantics."
Based on your comments, you want that touchbarOS, watchOS, tvOS, iOS for iPhone, iOS for iPad, macOS, and every other branch of OS X to be powerful and robust enough to run a Mac Pro while being able to run the T-1 chip in the new MBPs because they're all based on the same OS X core. I can't even wrap my head around why you think that makes sense. Apple has done a great job in consolidating iOS updates to get more inline with macOS updates, but they still have different downloads for the small number of different HW they offer. What you're asking for will NEVER happen.
Now, what could happen is that Apple includes a way to dock a mobile device so that it outputs a new UI, like a desktop UI. This has been tried for decades and has failed for decades, but ARM performance and Apple's HW and SW designs has now put this into a realm of possibility. This is still just an auxiliary UI for iOS with Cocoa Touch, and NOT a replacement for macOS. Note that this already exists with CarPlay, which is just an auxiliary Apple UI for iOS for your car.
I did not mention WatchOS. I did say that Steve Jobs said in his intial introduction of the IPhone that it was running a variant of OSX (now macOS).
Touch input and mouse input are simply different input methods. They are not exclusive. Ask Microsoft.
If you believe that iOS and macOS are are semantic terms without any real difference because they are based on an OS X core and therefore should be combined into a single OS, then by your own logic you have to carry that over to watchOS, touchbarOS and everything that will be running an OS X core. Again, this will NEVER happen because it makes no sense.
If you believe that iOS and macOS are are semantic terms without any real difference because they are based on an OS X core and therefore should be combined into a single OS, then by your own logic you have to carry that over to watchOS, touchbarOS and everything that will be running an OS X core. Again, this will NEVER happen because it makes no sense.
There are a number of people who are trying to put a brick wall between the two OS's. One that will make them forever separate. But, it was Steve Jobs who told us in his presentation (in this article) that his IPhone was running OSX (now known as MacOS). You may think that they are inextricably separate OS's that can never, ever be combined or interchanged. That's fine. You can believe whatever you want. But I'll believe Steve Jobs when he told us he got an OS built for the Mac to accept touch input on an IPhone. Gee! I guess it must be possible!
And again, I believe that when Apple tells us they won't be putting touch screens on MacBooks that they are telling us the truth - because I agree that that would be dumb. But, that does not preclude say, a tablet being able to be switched to laptop mode with a keyboard and mouse. I think it is the hardware holding that back rather than the lack of an OS because the Axx processor is still not a match for the Intel processors; Just as Jobs pointed out in his IPhone presentation, people don't want to buy an IPod and a cell phone. They want to buy and to carry one product. It's just a matter of time.
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The important thing to realize is that, while he changed the way the user interacts with the OS (from a mouse & physical keyboard to a finger and virtual keyboard), the basic OS remained and remains the same. Touch vs Mouse is a FEATURE of the OS, it is not the OS.
Which, when today's Apple says that they will never use IOS (touch interface) on a laptop, they are talking about that feature of the OS, not the OS itself.
Further, when Apple of today says that they will never use IOS on a laptop form factor or use macOS on a tablet form factor, they are talking about how the user provides input to that particular form factor (with a finger or a mouse) -- NOT the OS.
Obviously the laptop form factor has its benefits and the tablet its benefits. That does not say that, when the Axx processor is powerful enough that Apple will not produce a unit that can switch from tablet to laptop and back again using an OS capable of either/or. At that time OSX and IOS will, once again, be one.
The magic of Jobs was to stretch existing technology to the limits to meet user needs. He would not have restricted himself to some arbitrary limitation.
The point is the device isn't even half way booted and there are already significant differences in the operating systems depending on the device.
Based on your comments, you want that touchbarOS, watchOS, tvOS, iOS for iPhone, iOS for iPad, macOS, and every other branch of OS X to be powerful and robust enough to run a Mac Pro while being able to run the T-1 chip in the new MBPs because they're all based on the same OS X core. I can't even wrap my head around why you think that makes sense. Apple has done a great job in consolidating iOS updates to get more inline with macOS updates, but they still have different downloads for the small number of different HW they offer. What you're asking for will NEVER happen.
Now, what could happen is that Apple includes a way to dock a mobile device so that it outputs a new UI, like a desktop UI. This has been tried for decades and has failed for decades, but ARM performance and Apple's HW and SW designs has now put this into a realm of possibility. This is still just an auxiliary UI for iOS with Cocoa Touch, and NOT a replacement for macOS. Note that this already exists with CarPlay, which is just an auxiliary Apple UI for iOS for your car.
Touch input and mouse input are simply different input methods. They are not exclusive. Ask Microsoft.
But, it was Steve Jobs who told us in his presentation (in this article) that his IPhone was running OSX (now known as MacOS). You may think that they are inextricably separate OS's that can never, ever be combined or interchanged. That's fine. You can believe whatever you want. But I'll believe Steve Jobs when he told us he got an OS built for the Mac to accept touch input on an IPhone. Gee! I guess it must be possible!
And again, I believe that when Apple tells us they won't be putting touch screens on MacBooks that they are telling us the truth - because I agree that that would be dumb. But, that does not preclude say, a tablet being able to be switched to laptop mode with a keyboard and mouse. I think it is the hardware holding that back rather than the lack of an OS because the Axx processor is still not a match for the Intel processors; Just as Jobs pointed out in his IPhone presentation, people don't want to buy an IPod and a cell phone. They want to buy and to carry one product. It's just a matter of time.