Why are they always so far behind. I've got an iMac with 32GB of RAM and I'm currently building a PC with 64GB of RAM. Would've gone 128GB but can't afford it now. Anyhow, 32 GB is not a lot for a top of the line machine.
You can only do what Intel offers. What exactly do you want Apple to do? Sure, they can make a MacBook Pro with 32GB of RAM (maybe more!), but then it wouldn't get the 10hr battery life its known for because it has to use a different memory controller that isn't as efficient. Apple doesn't make the MacBook Pro for a specific set of customers, its created for a wide variety. So they're not designing MacBook Pro's for people who require 64 or 128GB of RAM.
I have to ask...what exactly are you do that requires 128GB of RAM? That is a lot of RAM. 32GB is typically plenty of RAM for any user, actually its more RAM that most can use. If you need more RAM then you aren't using a laptop.
It wouldn’t even be a concern if they still had a panel for upgradability, but since they refuse to allow any changes to be made to the specs post-purchase, it’s basically their obligation to offer the full range of what’s possible for the chipset. Yes, not many people pay for it, but since they now have TOTAL control over pricing, they can charge what they have to (and boy howdy will they ever; their upgrade prices have always been nonsense) to make up for it.
I haven't even seen the new MacBook Pro yet. The local supplier tells me they have a waiting list and that they're being snapped up so quickly they don't even have a model for demo. I have to agree with other comments about memory. We pay a premium price for a premium product, supposedly. I've never ever gotten close to 10 hours of battery life on either of my MBP's. (Long story how I came to have 2) I'd happily keep it connected to power in exchange for more RAM, if that was the tradeoff. Power jacks are everywhere in my country.
Why are they always so far behind. I've got an iMac with 32GB of RAM and I'm currently building a PC with 64GB of RAM. Would've gone 128GB but can't afford it now. Anyhow, 32 GB is not a lot for a top of the line machine.
You can only do what Intel offers. What exactly do you want Apple to do? Sure, they can make a MacBook Pro with 32GB of RAM (maybe more!), but then it wouldn't get the 10hr battery life its known for because it has to use a different memory controller that isn't as efficient. Apple doesn't make the MacBook Pro for a specific set of customers, its created for a wide variety. So they're not designing MacBook Pro's for people who require 64 or 128GB of RAM.
I have to ask...what exactly are you do that requires 128GB of RAM? That is a lot of RAM. 32GB is typically plenty of RAM for any user, actually its more RAM that most can use. If you need more RAM then you aren't using a laptop.
If they're using 32GB or more on a laptop, they're most likely running VMs or applications that cache huge amounts of data. It's possible to use 32 GB or at least more than 16, although I would argue that Lion and Mavericks were the worst in that regard. El Capitan (and possibly Sierra) do a better job of storing data in ram when it's needed.
Watch them charge $2,000 extra just for the memory too. Crooks!
Let's see, they're going to release the 32GB memory "everyone" has been after, which is going to introduce engineering challenges - it won't be LPDDR4, as that's still not supported, so they're going to have to install desktop memory in a notebook, while not sacrifice portability or battery life, and you're complaining they might just charge a bit extra for?
Would you like them to bring you a pony, too?
I suppose it doesn't matter, they could offer everything everyone's been asking for, and we'd still only hear "but it doesn't come in Jet Black" or "it doesn't have a 5.25" floppy drive" or some other niggling complaint.
I'm not convinced that using desktop RAM in the rMBP is a great idea, mostly for the reasons I hinted at above.
Hey now those 5.25" drives are now collectors items.
As for the ""desktop RAM"" I thought the quote was desktop class RAM which could mean anything at this point. As for LPDRR4 RAM, who knows Intel could be working on a Kaby Lake variant to support that interface. Desktop RAM by the way could be construed to mean RAM in plug in modules.
In any event for me RAM isn't a shortcoming on these 2016 MBP, the tiny battery is. Until they address the batteries power capacity it really doesn't matter what they do with the rest of the machine. Real "pro" usage on battery power, just drains the battery to damn fast on these machines. We can only hope that the rumored new battery technology comes through and we get back real run time.
Right. The batteries on my Dell Precision workstation class laptop lasts about an hour, if that. For pro use you plug in the wall, a generator or a USB-C battery pack. Which is now common.
The nice thing about the 2016 MBP is that you have the option of leaving an external battery pack behind if you want or use it to charge your phone or even jump your car.
Watch them charge $2,000 extra just for the memory too. Crooks!
Let's see, they're going to release the 32GB memory "everyone" has been after, which is going to introduce engineering challenges - it won't be LPDDR4, as that's still not supported, so they're going to have to install desktop memory in a notebook, while not sacrifice portability or battery life, and you're complaining they might just charge a bit extra for?
Would you like them to bring you a pony, too?
I suppose it doesn't matter, they could offer everything everyone's been asking for, and we'd still only hear "but it doesn't come in Jet Black" or "it doesn't have a 5.25" floppy drive" or some other niggling complaint.
I'm not convinced that using desktop RAM in the rMBP is a great idea, mostly for the reasons I hinted at above.
Hey now those 5.25" drives are now collectors items.
As for the ""desktop RAM"" I thought the quote was desktop class RAM which could mean anything at this point. As for LPDRR4 RAM, who knows Intel could be working on a Kaby Lake variant to support that interface. Desktop RAM by the way could be construed to mean RAM in plug in modules.
In any event for me RAM isn't a shortcoming on these 2016 MBP, the tiny battery is. Until they address the batteries power capacity it really doesn't matter what they do with the rest of the machine. Real "pro" usage on battery power, just drains the battery to damn fast on these machines. We can only hope that the rumored new battery technology comes through and we get back real run time.
Right. The batteries on my Dell Precision workstation class laptop lasts about an hour, if that. For pro use you plug in the wall, a generator or a USB-C battery pack. Which is now common.
The nice thing about the 2016 MBP is that you have the option of leaving an external battery pack behind if you want or use it to charge your phone or even jump your car.
If you are referring to something like the Dell Precision M6800 it has a 97Wh battery. The larger lithium-ion jump start packs are about 200 Wh. So even with a fairly large battery pack it will last 3 hours. That is one serious power hog for something designed to run on a battery.
Does anyone that has the new MacBook like it? Maybe Apple spent too much effort on that "nobody asked for it" led strip and forgot about what a pro needs from a pro machine.
I broke down and bought a 15" maxed out except the SDD (only 1 TB) because I needed a laptop and this was the best one I could buy.
The only lament I had was only 16 GB of RAM after I had gotten used to my iMac 5k with 64 GB (third party RAM - 16GB each card -and yes it is awesome). Was hoping for 32. Then after comparing the Del XPS, I realized this was the better machine in many ways.
I braced myself for trouble after the many youtube slams.
But I have come to find out much of that is lies. I am loving my MBP. Battery life Is awesome. Performance is amazing. It is extremely sturdy, and it even looks great.
It feels a bit heavier than I was expecting. But it isn't really heavy. Just solid.
I was afraid to use Premiere after seeing videos of GFX card corruption, so I took the plunge on FCP X. BEST THING I EVER DID. It blows Premiere out of the water.
Everything is so much simpler to do and somehow the software is like 10x as fast at everything. Exporting a video short that normally takes 5 minutes is done in 5 seconds.
It's crazy.
I did en up being forced to use Premiere to get some work done while learning FCP, but never encountered the issues others mentioned.
Today, I updated to the latest software revision and tried Premiere. It works as I remembered. No difference.
Does anyone that has the new MacBook like it? Maybe Apple spent too much effort on that "nobody asked for it" led strip and forgot about what a pro needs from a pro machine.
I do like the laptop overall quite a bit, mainly because it's lighter and sleeker than before and I travel with it everywhere. And I like TouchID. As for the Touchbar, it's a pointless invention and actually makes the laptop harder to use, I wish it wasn't there. The only thing I would ever use it for is brightness and volume, and it drove me crazy that I had to look at the touchbar and do double taps to wake it up just to turn the volume up, not to mention it's buggy and doesn't always work. For example you can connect a USB-C to HDMI cable to a tv, and then the volume buttons will stop working on the touchbar, even after disconnecting, until you restart the laptop - every single time. The idea that they would remove hard volume buttons is incredibly dumb in my opinion. Could easily have kept physical volume/brightness next to TouchID, and physical escape to the left, and just made the touchbar not as wide. Whole thing seems half baked.
As a solution I configured BetterTouchTool to map keys to brightness/volume. I mapped Function + Left/Right arrows for volume, and Function + Up/Down arrows for brightness. Now I can type and adjust volume quickly and all is right in the world again.
So uh...how about that 32GB RAM option. Eeeeh? Maybe after PC laptops hit 128GB.
Which WinPC laptops are slated to offer 128 GiB RAM running a mobile CPU? Frankly, you're foolish to expect 32 GiB RAM in Kaby Lake because it simply doesn't support more than 16 GiB LPDDR RAM. That won't happen until Cannon Lake, which won't be in quantity for the mobile chips Apple needs until 2018, according to Intel's own timeline.
Make the macbook pro heavier and with less battery time but give us a more powerful, 32 gig machine. It will sell. All media artists, musicians, video, photographers, medical and science will grab it.
Make the macbook pro heavier and with less battery time but give us a more powerful, 32 gig machine. It will sell. All media artists, musicians, video, photographers, medical and science will grab it.
Since it's now December 2017, I guess this won't happen in 2017. Hopefully, they will release a MacBook Pro that supports 32GB of RAM this upcoming year. I have a really great mid-2015 MacBook Pro, the totally maxed out model, that I will be selling to buy a new MacBook Pro when Apple finally gives us one with 32GB of RAM.
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I have to ask...what exactly are you do that requires 128GB of RAM? That is a lot of RAM. 32GB is typically plenty of RAM for any user, actually its more RAM that most can use. If you need more RAM then you aren't using a laptop.
He did mention iMacs. Stands to reason that they’d be able to max things out.
The nice thing about the 2016 MBP is that you have the option of leaving an external battery pack behind if you want or use it to charge your phone or even jump your car.
The only lament I had was only 16 GB of RAM after I had gotten used to my iMac 5k with 64 GB (third party RAM - 16GB each card -and yes it is awesome). Was hoping for 32. Then after comparing the Del XPS, I realized this was the better machine in many ways.
I braced myself for trouble after the many youtube slams.
But I have come to find out much of that is lies. I am loving my MBP. Battery life Is awesome. Performance is amazing. It is extremely sturdy, and it even looks great.
It feels a bit heavier than I was expecting. But it isn't really heavy. Just solid.
I was afraid to use Premiere after seeing videos of GFX card corruption, so I took the plunge on FCP X. BEST THING I EVER DID. It blows Premiere out of the water.
Everything is so much simpler to do and somehow the software is like 10x as fast at everything. Exporting a video short that normally takes 5 minutes is done in 5 seconds.
It's crazy.
I did en up being forced to use Premiere to get some work done while learning FCP, but never encountered the issues others mentioned.
Today, I updated to the latest software revision and tried Premiere. It works as I remembered. No difference.
Literally no complaints. I am ecstatic. Love it!
As a solution I configured BetterTouchTool to map keys to brightness/volume. I mapped Function + Left/Right arrows for volume, and Function + Up/Down arrows for brightness. Now I can type and adjust volume quickly and all is right in the world again.
2.) This boat has sailed a while ago.