Wouldn't want either one of them. Bit of a privacy concern there.
But your OK with all the other devices in the room with microphones? There has to be a name for that kind of irrational thinking.
Disagree. This is a device *someone else owns and controls.*
I too would not accept this in a hotel room. This is a bad idea. Remember when the hotels got sued (and lost) for blocking wifi? Wait until guests report a security breach after staying there. Rightfully or wrongfully, these devices will be blamed and Marriott will have a yooge problem on their hands. For what advantage? I don't see anything justifying this risk.
Again, but you're OK with all the other devices in the room with microphones "that someone else owns and controls"?
You mean the phone? What else does?
First thing I do is tell the front desk to have it removed. Big difference between my device and some other one that is generically available.
That's one that has an obvious microphone. Do you think that request is common? Why not just unplug it yourself? If you think the hotel is spying on you from a phone, why assume they're spying on you from any other locations where power is supplied to the room? A TV, a wall outlet, a lamp, a thermostat, a smoke detector, and on and on. Do you even know how to check to see if a room has a two way mirror? Personally, I'd be more afraid on what's on comforter that ends up on the floor every night, gets walked on, and doesn't get cleaned for months at a time (if ever).
Wouldn't want either one of them. Bit of a privacy concern there.
But your OK with all the other devices in the room with microphones? There has to be a name for that kind of irrational thinking.
Disagree. This is a device *someone else owns and controls.*
I too would not accept this in a hotel room. This is a bad idea. Remember when the hotels got sued (and lost) for blocking wifi? Wait until guests report a security breach after staying there. Rightfully or wrongfully, these devices will be blamed and Marriott will have a yooge problem on their hands. For what advantage? I don't see anything justifying this risk.
Again, but you're OK with all the other devices in the room with microphones "that someone else owns and controls"?
You mean the phone? What else does?
First thing I do is tell the front desk to have it removed. Big difference between my device and some other one that is generically available.
That's one that has an obvious microphone. Do you think that request is common? Why not just unplug it yourself? If you think the hotel is spying on you from a phone, why assume they're spying on you from any other locations where power is supplied to the room? A TV, a wall outlet, a lamp, a thermostat, a smoke detector, and on and on. Do you even know how to check to see if a room has a two way mirror? Personally, I'd be more afraid on what's on comforter that ends up on the floor every night, gets walked on, and doesn't get cleaned for months at a time (if ever).
You're focused on a bunch of red herrings. There maybe other concerns about staying in a hotel room, including cleanliness and discreet bugging or other surveillance. However we're talking about whether or not a consumer is willing to accept a device that knowingly records everything that's going on in the room. Such an argument could easily extend to a video camera pointed at your bed. Would you accept that? If not, why not? After all there could be a camera hidden in the wall that's doing the same thing so why not let them just do it out in the open.
I can accept the argument it's all about convenience, but the argument that this should be OK because there are other more secretive ways to do the same thing some people might suspect holds no weight.
That's one that has an obvious microphone. Do you think that request is common? Why not just unplug it yourself? If you think the hotel is spying on you from a phone, why assume they're spying on you from any other locations where power is supplied to the room? A TV, a wall outlet, a lamp, a thermostat, a smoke detector, and on and on. Do you even know how to check to see if a room has a two way mirror? Personally, I'd be more afraid on what's on comforter that ends up on the floor every night, gets walked on, and doesn't get cleaned for months at a time (if ever).
You're focused on a bunch of red herrings. There maybe other concerns about staying in a hotel room, including cleanliness and discreet bugging or other surveillance. However we're talking about whether or not a consumer is willing to accept a device that knowingly records everything that's going on in the room. Such an argument could easily extend to a video camera pointed at your bed. Would you accept that? If not, why not? After all there could be a camera hidden in the wall that's doing the same thing so why not let them just do it out in the open.
I can accept the argument it's all about convenience, but the argument that this should be OK because there are other more secretive ways to do the same thing some people might suspect holds no weight.
1) To assume that a hotel chain is bugging your room is you "focused on a bunch of red herrings." All I did was point out that if a hotel chain wants to bug a room they're going to bug the fucking room.
2) No, Amazon Echo, Echo Dot, and iPhone do NOT record everything. None of these devices record a goddamn thing until you say the activation word, which it then records your request, processes your verbal request into text, and then parses that text so it can answer it accordingly. That's it. That's fucking it!
3) Do you really have "Hey Siri" disabled because you think that by having it listen for a keyword that it's recording everything? If you want to be a paranoid nutjob, go right ahead, but at least have a modicum of knowledge about the technology your rallying against. A little common sense will go a long way.
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I can accept the argument it's all about convenience, but the argument that this should be OK because there are other more secretive ways to do the same thing some people might suspect holds no weight.
2) No, Amazon Echo, Echo Dot, and iPhone do NOT record everything. None of these devices record a goddamn thing until you say the activation word, which it then records your request, processes your verbal request into text, and then parses that text so it can answer it accordingly. That's it. That's fucking it!
3) Do you really have "Hey Siri" disabled because you think that by having it listen for a keyword that it's recording everything? If you want to be a paranoid nutjob, go right ahead, but at least have a modicum of knowledge about the technology your rallying against. A little common sense will go a long way.