I think there are several smokescreens. I've followed rumors at Apple for several years, and have never seen so many diverse rumors at one time - G5s, lucidia, PDAs, swivel iMacs, 17 inch iMacs, new tower cases, old tower cases, cubes... whew! They're all so varied and so intense.
I think Apple wants us to believe something other than what will actually happen. There seem to be so many smokescreens that we can't see what's coming. That way Apple hypes the 'wow' factor even more.
Firstly, TS's 'confirmed' info stems from Apple's current tower/display promos ending in August. Nothing says that towers won't be introed at MWNY because Apple has ended promos early before.
Secondly, however, is the fact that Apple is no longer waiting for big shows to release products. They will release them when ready or when they fell the time is right. So, maybe they would release in August because the machines would be ready then, or just because that's when they feel like releasing them giving time for the current promos to clear channels.
Both the imAc ad the PowerMac need an update soon, it's no doubt that it will be updated soon, their announcements of these new updated version probablu will either at the MWNY or shortly after it.
It's quite probable that the CNet article is only meant as way to throw off some people. Hmmm... Maybe something big is planned at MWNY?
<strong>It wouldn't entirely surprise me, assuming Apple had something else to announce, if PowerMacs were left off. Expos really cater more to the consumer market than anything else in terms of advertising. Releasing the PowerMac in a special event would be just as effective in terms of the market it goes after. Releasing a new iMac like that wouldn't work so well. </strong><hr></blockquote>
What is all this talk about MacWorlds being for consumers (as in the average Joe (or Jo) who's into surfing the net, writing emails and doesn't know the difference between 50MB ram and a 50MB HD)? I find it hard to believe that the people who go to these things are not Mac freaks-the faithful. I mean I'm into Macs and I have no interest in going to a computer show, Mac or PC. You have to be REALLY into this crap to spend time talking to E-geeks about mhz, MBs vs mb, the various speeds of ethernet, the fantastic properties of this inkjet printer or that scanner or this piece of software and all the junk that people go to see and talk about--or it has to be part of your livelihood. I imagine most people who go to these shows are making money off their Macs. They may not be writing code or selling products for the Mac market, but if that's your definition of professional then I think that's pretty narrow.
<strong>What is all this talk about MacWorlds being for consumers (as in the average Joe (or Jo) who's into surfing the net, writing emails and doesn't know the difference between 50MB ram and a 50MB HD)? I find it hard to believe that the people who go to these things are not Mac freaks-the faithful. I mean I'm into Macs and I have no interest in going to a computer show, Mac or PC. You have to be REALLY into this crap to spend time talking to E-geeks about mhz, MBs vs mb, the various speeds of ethernet, the fantastic properties of this inkjet printer or that scanner or this piece of software and all the junk that people go to see and talk about--or it has to be part of your livelihood. I imagine most people who go to these shows are making money off their Macs. They may not be writing code or selling products for the Mac market, but if that's your definition of professional then I think that's pretty narrow.</strong><hr></blockquote>
The people who go to the Macworlds will go regardless of what is released. There are often functions to attend and the professionals interested in them won't really care what hardware is on show. They can still freely chat about current hardware and future hardware (kinda).
MWSF and MWNY though are very high profile in terms of the media they attract and that media is far better suited for targetting the consumer market than the prosumer market, who will generally keep up-to-date on what is happening a little more.
That's why I would place them under the category of consumer oriented shows. Just wouldn't surprise me too much to see Apple do the same especially now they have a desire to move away from the major shows with their releases.
If they are faced with update the iMac at MWNY and the powermac after or the other way round I believe you will find they go for the most consumer oriented product at the large show. That is assuming both are equally ready for roll out.
I'm an idot! I forgot that the current 17" LCD isn't a wide-screen. Apple could replace the 17" with a cooler 18" or 19" wide-screen model. Hey, it could happen.
<strong>Think Secret is very, very, very, very good. In the past, anything and everything they say has turned out to be true, and they never emphasize how "stone cold" anything is. As a result, I am extremely inclined to believe them.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Say for instance I was a rumor site operator and lets say that last year I received an anonymous tip which wound up almost word for word in a cnet story a couple days later and proved to be accurate. Now then, hypothetically speaking of course, how hard would it be to in the week preceding the next such show to concoct a story in the style of that previously trusted source and spoof the point of origin (whoever sent the original tip was probably making efforts to cover their tracks and make their message untraceable, so deception as to the originating server would not be a red flag necessarily. Why would you do such a thing? Apple just smacked your kind around so why not get a smack back?
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The original rumour was no PowerMac G4s
CNET regurgetated it with a few rentaquotes...
The MPC 7500 was once the 8500. 8500 isn't a G4...
:cool:
I think there are several smokescreens. I've followed rumors at Apple for several years, and have never seen so many diverse rumors at one time - G5s, lucidia, PDAs, swivel iMacs, 17 inch iMacs, new tower cases, old tower cases, cubes... whew! They're all so varied and so intense.
I think Apple wants us to believe something other than what will actually happen. There seem to be so many smokescreens that we can't see what's coming. That way Apple hypes the 'wow' factor even more.
Secondly, however, is the fact that Apple is no longer waiting for big shows to release products. They will release them when ready or when they fell the time is right. So, maybe they would release in August because the machines would be ready then, or just because that's when they feel like releasing them giving time for the current promos to clear channels.
It's quite probable that the CNet article is only meant as way to throw off some people. Hmmm... Maybe something big is planned at MWNY?
<strong>It wouldn't entirely surprise me, assuming Apple had something else to announce, if PowerMacs were left off. Expos really cater more to the consumer market than anything else in terms of advertising. Releasing the PowerMac in a special event would be just as effective in terms of the market it goes after. Releasing a new iMac like that wouldn't work so well. </strong><hr></blockquote>
What is all this talk about MacWorlds being for consumers (as in the average Joe (or Jo) who's into surfing the net, writing emails and doesn't know the difference between 50MB ram and a 50MB HD)? I find it hard to believe that the people who go to these things are not Mac freaks-the faithful. I mean I'm into Macs and I have no interest in going to a computer show, Mac or PC. You have to be REALLY into this crap to spend time talking to E-geeks about mhz, MBs vs mb, the various speeds of ethernet, the fantastic properties of this inkjet printer or that scanner or this piece of software and all the junk that people go to see and talk about--or it has to be part of your livelihood. I imagine most people who go to these shows are making money off their Macs. They may not be writing code or selling products for the Mac market, but if that's your definition of professional then I think that's pretty narrow.
<strong>What is all this talk about MacWorlds being for consumers (as in the average Joe (or Jo) who's into surfing the net, writing emails and doesn't know the difference between 50MB ram and a 50MB HD)? I find it hard to believe that the people who go to these things are not Mac freaks-the faithful. I mean I'm into Macs and I have no interest in going to a computer show, Mac or PC. You have to be REALLY into this crap to spend time talking to E-geeks about mhz, MBs vs mb, the various speeds of ethernet, the fantastic properties of this inkjet printer or that scanner or this piece of software and all the junk that people go to see and talk about--or it has to be part of your livelihood. I imagine most people who go to these shows are making money off their Macs. They may not be writing code or selling products for the Mac market, but if that's your definition of professional then I think that's pretty narrow.</strong><hr></blockquote>
The people who go to the Macworlds will go regardless of what is released. There are often functions to attend and the professionals interested in them won't really care what hardware is on show. They can still freely chat about current hardware and future hardware (kinda).
MWSF and MWNY though are very high profile in terms of the media they attract and that media is far better suited for targetting the consumer market than the prosumer market, who will generally keep up-to-date on what is happening a little more.
That's why I would place them under the category of consumer oriented shows. Just wouldn't surprise me too much to see Apple do the same especially now they have a desire to move away from the major shows with their releases.
If they are faced with update the iMac at MWNY and the powermac after or the other way round I believe you will find they go for the most consumer oriented product at the large show. That is assuming both are equally ready for roll out.
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<strong>Think Secret is very, very, very, very good. In the past, anything and everything they say has turned out to be true, and they never emphasize how "stone cold" anything is. As a result, I am extremely inclined to believe them.</strong><hr></blockquote>
LOL...that was good.
Say for instance I was a rumor site operator and lets say that last year I received an anonymous tip which wound up almost word for word in a cnet story a couple days later and proved to be accurate. Now then, hypothetically speaking of course, how hard would it be to in the week preceding the next such show to concoct a story in the style of that previously trusted source and spoof the point of origin (whoever sent the original tip was probably making efforts to cover their tracks and make their message untraceable, so deception as to the originating server would not be a red flag necessarily. Why would you do such a thing? Apple just smacked your kind around so why not get a smack back?