Apple awards glassmaker Corning $200M to grow made in USA jobs with Advanced Manufacturing...

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  • Reply 21 of 51
    h2ph2p Posts: 329member
    smalm said:

    I'm definitly not missing to live under Trump's kakistocracy!
    Great word,'kakistocracy,' smalm!

    But, otherwise, I don't give a sh*t whether you like Trump. Stories like this are good PR for Apple and good for US workers to hear. I don't believe Apple should back away one bit from non-US supplies. Just keep adding investment into the US.

    Perhaps there will be a tax/investment bill that will change the situation of keeping some of Apple's billions from being invested in the US. There is a proposal to, I believe, remove the 35% corporate tax on "foreign" earnings (now deferred). I'll have to look into the proposal.
    LoneStar88
  • Reply 22 of 51
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,407member
    h2p said:
    smalm said:

    I'm definitly not missing to live under Trump's kakistocracy!
    Great word,'kakistocracy,' smalm!

    But, otherwise, I don't give a sh*t whether you like Trump. Stories like this are good PR for Apple and good for US workers to hear. I don't believe Apple should back away one bit from non-US supplies. Just keep adding investment into the US.

    Perhaps there will be a tax/investment bill that will change the situation of keeping some of Apple's billions from being invested in the US. There is a proposal to, I believe, remove the 35% corporate tax on "foreign" earnings (now deferred). I'll have to look into the proposal.
    The so-called overseas capital "repatriation" plan proposes a 10% tax to bring back these trillions, versus the current 35%. 
    LoneStar88
  • Reply 23 of 51
    spice-boyspice-boy Posts: 1,450member
    lkrupp said:
    Glad to see Apple finally putting out a little PR to show it does indeed create jobs in the U.S. Such a large corporation cannot help but be responsible for thousands of jobs. But that won’t silence the critics of course. This whole “bring manufacturing back to the U.S.” is a sham. Low skilled workers here have no future except for low wage service jobs. It’s also why we’re seeing the push for artificially regulated minimum wages and a resurgence of idea of guaranteed income in which taxpayers will pay you a decent salary to sit on your ass all day long and play Candy Crush on your free smartphone with unlimited data. By the way, I don’t know the answer to the problem of unskilled labor but the educational system sure hasn’t helped.
    Yeah dump on the poor, they are always and easy target and besides the rich and powerful would crush you if you step out of line. I sure hope you never lose your job and find yourself in such a predicament, life has a way screwing up things when you least expect it. 
    blastdoorStrangeDays
  • Reply 24 of 51
    spice-boyspice-boy Posts: 1,450member

    None of this would've been anticipated or would've happened under any other President who was "expected" to win in 2016.
    Your brilliance in being able to make forecasts about the counterfactual world leaves me.... gobsmacked!
    After 8 years of economic sputtering, no growth, insider payoffs for favors... the change so far has been overall pretty good for business and it looks like it'll get even better. Trump doesn't get a free pass from me on everything, but on business matters his team is performing spectacularly so far. Looking forward to tax reform.
    First, nothing Trump or any President has done in the first few months in that office can have any real affect on the economy. Second you will not benefit from the proposed new tax structure unless you are a bored multimillionaire who like commenting on websites like this one when you are not counting your money. My guess you are one of the 24 million people who is about to lose their health care and by the time you retire Medicaid will be gone too. 
  • Reply 25 of 51
    LoneStar88LoneStar88 Posts: 325member
    macxpress said:

    lkrupp said:
    Glad to see Apple finally putting out a little PR to show it does indeed create jobs in the U.S. Such a large corporation cannot help but be responsible for thousands of jobs. But that won’t silence the critics of course. This whole “bring manufacturing back to the U.S.” is a sham. Low skilled workers here have no future except for low wage service jobs. It’s also why we’re seeing the push for artificially regulated minimum wages and a resurgence of idea of guaranteed income in which taxpayers will pay you a decent salary to sit on your ass all day long and play Candy Crush on your free smartphone with unlimited data. By the way, I don’t know the answer to the problem of unskilled labor but the educational system sure hasn’t helped.
    One way would be to give every American, not just rich ones at least a chance to get a quality education for free. New York State is kinda doing something like this where if you make under I think its $120,000 or 100,000/yr you can go to College for free. There are some catches to it such as you have to live in NYS for at least 4yrs after gravitating or else it turns into a loan and there are a couple of other things that I wish weren't there. But, at least its a start. Why can't the US as a whole do this? There are a lot of people in this country that have great potential, but don't want a $100,000+ debt to get there that they may never be able to pay off. We need to start helping the lower and middle class instead of focusing on padding the top 1%'s pockets. We will seriously fail in the end otherwise in my opinion. It may take a while, but this country will start to fail. 
    We don't need more socialism. We need to keep draining the swamp, which includes rampant corruption, insurrection, etc. throughout "higher education" which doesn't educate nearly enough. With Trump's administration, there is new emphasis on technical/vocational education, which have been seriously lacking for decades. This brand of education will much more effectively supply the revived job market with people who actually know how to do useful things, thus making themselves truly employable.
    edited May 2017 SpamSandwich
  • Reply 26 of 51
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 10,557member
    macxpress said:

    lkrupp said:
    Glad to see Apple finally putting out a little PR to show it does indeed create jobs in the U.S. Such a large corporation cannot help but be responsible for thousands of jobs. But that won’t silence the critics of course. This whole “bring manufacturing back to the U.S.” is a sham. Low skilled workers here have no future except for low wage service jobs. It’s also why we’re seeing the push for artificially regulated minimum wages and a resurgence of idea of guaranteed income in which taxpayers will pay you a decent salary to sit on your ass all day long and play Candy Crush on your free smartphone with unlimited data. By the way, I don’t know the answer to the problem of unskilled labor but the educational system sure hasn’t helped.
    One way would be to give every American, not just rich ones at least a chance to get a quality education for free. New York State is kinda doing something like this where if you make under I think its $120,000 or 100,000/yr you can go to College for free. There are some catches to it such as you have to live in NYS for at least 4yrs after gravitating or else it turns into a loan and there are a couple of other things that I wish weren't there. But, at least its a start. Why can't the US as a whole do this? There are a lot of people in this country that have great potential, but don't want a $100,000+ debt to get there that they may never be able to pay off. We need to start helping the lower and middle class instead of focusing on padding the top 1%'s pockets. We will seriously fail in the end otherwise in my opinion. It may take a while, but this country will start to fail. 
    Who pays for everybody to go to school for free?
    Yep, they never have an answer for that question except for the ‘soak the rich’ gambit.
  • Reply 27 of 51
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,407member
    macxpress said:

    lkrupp said:
    Glad to see Apple finally putting out a little PR to show it does indeed create jobs in the U.S. Such a large corporation cannot help but be responsible for thousands of jobs. But that won’t silence the critics of course. This whole “bring manufacturing back to the U.S.” is a sham. Low skilled workers here have no future except for low wage service jobs. It’s also why we’re seeing the push for artificially regulated minimum wages and a resurgence of idea of guaranteed income in which taxpayers will pay you a decent salary to sit on your ass all day long and play Candy Crush on your free smartphone with unlimited data. By the way, I don’t know the answer to the problem of unskilled labor but the educational system sure hasn’t helped.
    One way would be to give every American, not just rich ones at least a chance to get a quality education for free. New York State is kinda doing something like this where if you make under I think its $120,000 or 100,000/yr you can go to College for free. There are some catches to it such as you have to live in NYS for at least 4yrs after gravitating or else it turns into a loan and there are a couple of other things that I wish weren't there. But, at least its a start. Why can't the US as a whole do this? There are a lot of people in this country that have great potential, but don't want a $100,000+ debt to get there that they may never be able to pay off. We need to start helping the lower and middle class instead of focusing on padding the top 1%'s pockets. We will seriously fail in the end otherwise in my opinion. It may take a while, but this country will start to fail. 
    We don't need more socialism. We need to keep draining the swamp, which includes rampant corruption, insurrection, etc. throughout "higher education" which doesn't educate nearly enough. With Trump's administration, there is new emphasis on technical/vocational education, which have been seriously lacking for decades. This brand of education will much more effectively supply the revived job market with people who actually know how to do useful things, thus making themselves truly employable.
    And ideally, those industries which require people trained to carry out these real world, physical jobs should be forming vocational education groups to fund training people. Funding for this kind of thing should not come from government via higher taxes.
    edited May 2017
  • Reply 28 of 51
    anantksundaramanantksundaram Posts: 20,404member
    None of this would've been anticipated or would've happened under any other President who was "expected" to win in 2016.
    Your brilliance in being able to make forecasts about the counterfactual world leaves me.... gobsmacked!
    After 8 years of economic sputtering, no growth, insider payoffs for favors... the change so far has been overall pretty good for business and it looks like it'll get even better. Trump doesn't get a free pass from me on everything, but on business matters his team is performing spectacularly so far. Looking forward to tax reform.
    Um... what?! Are you saying this with a straight face?!

    "Economic sputtering"? 0.7% GDP growth in the first quarter of 2017
    "No growth"? Here's Wilbur Ross, the US Commerce Secretary on growth forecast for all of 2017
    "Insider payoffs for favors"? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha..... (Unfortunately I have neither the time nor space to document all the "favors" doled out by Trump & his cronies, but I can recommend picking up and reading any random newspaper on any random day).

    ben20StrangeDays
  • Reply 29 of 51
    ben20ben20 Posts: 126member
    None of this would've been anticipated or would've happened under any other President who was "expected" to win in 2016.
    Your brilliance in being able to make forecasts about the counterfactual world leaves me.... gobsmacked!
    After 8 years of economic sputtering, no growth, insider payoffs for favors... the change so far has been overall pretty good for business and it looks like it'll get even better. Trump doesn't get a free pass from me on everything, but on business matters his team is performing spectacularly so far. Looking forward to tax reform.
    Um... what?! Are you saying this with a straight face?!

    "Economic sputtering"? 0.7% GDP growth in the first quarter of 2017
    "No growth"? Here's Wilbur Ross, the US Commerce Secretary on growth forecast for all of 2017
    "Insider payoffs for favors"? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha..... (Unfortunately I have neither the time nor space to document all the "favors" doled out by Trump & his cronies, but I can recommend picking up and reading any random newspaper on any random day).

    No fake news, please. 
  • Reply 30 of 51
    macxpressmacxpress Posts: 5,808member
    macxpress said:

    lkrupp said:
    Glad to see Apple finally putting out a little PR to show it does indeed create jobs in the U.S. Such a large corporation cannot help but be responsible for thousands of jobs. But that won’t silence the critics of course. This whole “bring manufacturing back to the U.S.” is a sham. Low skilled workers here have no future except for low wage service jobs. It’s also why we’re seeing the push for artificially regulated minimum wages and a resurgence of idea of guaranteed income in which taxpayers will pay you a decent salary to sit on your ass all day long and play Candy Crush on your free smartphone with unlimited data. By the way, I don’t know the answer to the problem of unskilled labor but the educational system sure hasn’t helped.
    One way would be to give every American, not just rich ones at least a chance to get a quality education for free. New York State is kinda doing something like this where if you make under I think its $120,000 or 100,000/yr you can go to College for free. There are some catches to it such as you have to live in NYS for at least 4yrs after gravitating or else it turns into a loan and there are a couple of other things that I wish weren't there. But, at least its a start. Why can't the US as a whole do this? There are a lot of people in this country that have great potential, but don't want a $100,000+ debt to get there that they may never be able to pay off. We need to start helping the lower and middle class instead of focusing on padding the top 1%'s pockets. We will seriously fail in the end otherwise in my opinion. It may take a while, but this country will start to fail. 
    Who pays for everybody to go to school for free?
    Its built into the state budget. I know what you're probably getting at here...so yes tax payers pay for this. If the federal government did the same thing, it would be the same way. Money doesn't come out of thin air no matter who you are. The point is, the tax payers money is being used appropriately with programs like this. I don't mind paying taxes if its going to go toward programs like this. 
  • Reply 31 of 51
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,407member
    macxpress said:
    macxpress said:

    lkrupp said:
    Glad to see Apple finally putting out a little PR to show it does indeed create jobs in the U.S. Such a large corporation cannot help but be responsible for thousands of jobs. But that won’t silence the critics of course. This whole “bring manufacturing back to the U.S.” is a sham. Low skilled workers here have no future except for low wage service jobs. It’s also why we’re seeing the push for artificially regulated minimum wages and a resurgence of idea of guaranteed income in which taxpayers will pay you a decent salary to sit on your ass all day long and play Candy Crush on your free smartphone with unlimited data. By the way, I don’t know the answer to the problem of unskilled labor but the educational system sure hasn’t helped.
    One way would be to give every American, not just rich ones at least a chance to get a quality education for free. New York State is kinda doing something like this where if you make under I think its $120,000 or 100,000/yr you can go to College for free. There are some catches to it such as you have to live in NYS for at least 4yrs after gravitating or else it turns into a loan and there are a couple of other things that I wish weren't there. But, at least its a start. Why can't the US as a whole do this? There are a lot of people in this country that have great potential, but don't want a $100,000+ debt to get there that they may never be able to pay off. We need to start helping the lower and middle class instead of focusing on padding the top 1%'s pockets. We will seriously fail in the end otherwise in my opinion. It may take a while, but this country will start to fail. 
    Who pays for everybody to go to school for free?
    Its built into the state budget. I know what you're probably getting at here...so yes tax payers pay for this. If the federal government did the same thing, it would be the same way. Money doesn't come out of thin air no matter who you are. The point is, the tax payers money is being used appropriately with programs like this. I don't mind paying taxes if its going to go toward programs like this. 
    "Free" school is just another subsidy which devalues and distorts all of the costs associated with the giveaway. Absent a feedback loop, in this case punishment in the form of unemployment for students who choose to pursue studies which serve no marketable need, then it would be tantamount to taxpayer robbery.
    spinnyd
  • Reply 32 of 51
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,407member
    None of this would've been anticipated or would've happened under any other President who was "expected" to win in 2016.
    Your brilliance in being able to make forecasts about the counterfactual world leaves me.... gobsmacked!
    After 8 years of economic sputtering, no growth, insider payoffs for favors... the change so far has been overall pretty good for business and it looks like it'll get even better. Trump doesn't get a free pass from me on everything, but on business matters his team is performing spectacularly so far. Looking forward to tax reform.
    Um... what?! Are you saying this with a straight face?!

    "Economic sputtering"? 0.7% GDP growth in the first quarter of 2017
    "No growth"? Here's Wilbur Ross, the US Commerce Secretary on growth forecast for all of 2017
    "Insider payoffs for favors"? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha..... (Unfortunately I have neither the time nor space to document all the "favors" doled out by Trump & his cronies, but I can recommend picking up and reading any random newspaper on any random day).

    https://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/data-mine/2015/10/28/which-presidents-have-been-best-for-the-economy


  • Reply 33 of 51
    anantksundaramanantksundaram Posts: 20,404member
    ben20 said:
    None of this would've been anticipated or would've happened under any other President who was "expected" to win in 2016.
    Your brilliance in being able to make forecasts about the counterfactual world leaves me.... gobsmacked!
    After 8 years of economic sputtering, no growth, insider payoffs for favors... the change so far has been overall pretty good for business and it looks like it'll get even better. Trump doesn't get a free pass from me on everything, but on business matters his team is performing spectacularly so far. Looking forward to tax reform.
    Um... what?! Are you saying this with a straight face?!

    "Economic sputtering"? 0.7% GDP growth in the first quarter of 2017
    "No growth"? Here's Wilbur Ross, the US Commerce Secretary on growth forecast for all of 2017
    "Insider payoffs for favors"? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha..... (Unfortunately I have neither the time nor space to document all the "favors" doled out by Trump & his cronies, but I can recommend picking up and reading any random newspaper on any random day).

    No fake news, please. 
    What an idiotic post. Name one thing that's "fake" above, and prove it. 
    StrangeDays
  • Reply 34 of 51
    tiger2tiger2 Posts: 31member

    None of this would've been anticipated or would've happened under any other President who was "expected" to win in 2016.
    Your brilliance in being able to make forecasts about the counterfactual world leaves me.... gobsmacked!
    After 8 years of economic sputtering, no growth, insider payoffs for favors... the change so far has been overall pretty good for business and it looks like it'll get even better. Trump doesn't get a free pass from me on everything, but on business matters his team is performing spectacularly so far. Looking forward to tax reform.
    Not sure which country you're talking about.  

    Final 2016 Jobs Report Marks 75 Consecutive Months of Growth - The ...
    U.S. Economy In Record 73-Month Streak Of Job Growth | HuffPost
    Record Job Growth - 82 Consecutive Months of Job Growth
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_created_during_U.S._presidential_terms

    Notice anything about the chart showing which presidents create the most jobs?   They're all Democrats.  Republicans, like Bush drive the economy over the cliff, then Democrats spend the next 8 years fixing it.  Americans  get amnesia.  Repeat.
    StrangeDays
  • Reply 35 of 51
    macxpressmacxpress Posts: 5,808member
    macxpress said:
    macxpress said:

    lkrupp said:
    Glad to see Apple finally putting out a little PR to show it does indeed create jobs in the U.S. Such a large corporation cannot help but be responsible for thousands of jobs. But that won’t silence the critics of course. This whole “bring manufacturing back to the U.S.” is a sham. Low skilled workers here have no future except for low wage service jobs. It’s also why we’re seeing the push for artificially regulated minimum wages and a resurgence of idea of guaranteed income in which taxpayers will pay you a decent salary to sit on your ass all day long and play Candy Crush on your free smartphone with unlimited data. By the way, I don’t know the answer to the problem of unskilled labor but the educational system sure hasn’t helped.
    One way would be to give every American, not just rich ones at least a chance to get a quality education for free. New York State is kinda doing something like this where if you make under I think its $120,000 or 100,000/yr you can go to College for free. There are some catches to it such as you have to live in NYS for at least 4yrs after gravitating or else it turns into a loan and there are a couple of other things that I wish weren't there. But, at least its a start. Why can't the US as a whole do this? There are a lot of people in this country that have great potential, but don't want a $100,000+ debt to get there that they may never be able to pay off. We need to start helping the lower and middle class instead of focusing on padding the top 1%'s pockets. We will seriously fail in the end otherwise in my opinion. It may take a while, but this country will start to fail. 
    Who pays for everybody to go to school for free?
    Its built into the state budget. I know what you're probably getting at here...so yes tax payers pay for this. If the federal government did the same thing, it would be the same way. Money doesn't come out of thin air no matter who you are. The point is, the tax payers money is being used appropriately with programs like this. I don't mind paying taxes if its going to go toward programs like this. 
    "Free" school is just another subsidy which devalues and distorts all of the costs associated with the giveaway. Absent a feedback loop, in this case punishment in the form of unemployment for students who choose to pursue studies which serve no marketable need, then it would be tantamount to taxpayer robbery.
    Ummm okay...we'll just have unskilled people in the US then. Only the top 1% are qualified to get an education. 
    singularity
  • Reply 36 of 51
    Is this money a:
    • grant                 (a gift, with no repayment to Apple)
    • investment        (money provided with some anticipated return / benefit)
    COO Jeff Williams uses the word, "investing".  I'm curious what form the payback will take...i.e., just improved products, or some financial ROI?

    Good question.  I have no doubt whatsoever that it wasn't a grant/gift without some sort of strings attached.  I can imagine it comes in the form of better pricing from Corning, but who knows.  
  • Reply 37 of 51

    smalm said:
    "Corning is a great example of a supplier that has continued to innovate and they are one of Apple's long-standing suppliers. This partnership started 10 years ago with the very first iPhone, and today every customer that buys an iPhone or iPad anywhere in the world touches glass that was developed in America. We're extremely proud of our collaboration over the years and we are investing further with Corning who has such a rich legacy of innovative manufacturing practices."

    As a non US customer I'm missing something like "Corning is our supplier because their product is the best". Otherwise Apple should use the alkali aluminosilicate glass from whoever is the best.
    There is nothing inconsistent between those two statements.  It's like telling your wife that the new car you bought will save money on fuel and save the environment while telling your buddy at work that it's super fast and turns heads.  You're telling the truth to both audiences, but focusing on the part that gets the desired reaction from each.
  • Reply 38 of 51
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,407member
    macxpress said:
    macxpress said:
    macxpress said:

    lkrupp said:
    Glad to see Apple finally putting out a little PR to show it does indeed create jobs in the U.S. Such a large corporation cannot help but be responsible for thousands of jobs. But that won’t silence the critics of course. This whole “bring manufacturing back to the U.S.” is a sham. Low skilled workers here have no future except for low wage service jobs. It’s also why we’re seeing the push for artificially regulated minimum wages and a resurgence of idea of guaranteed income in which taxpayers will pay you a decent salary to sit on your ass all day long and play Candy Crush on your free smartphone with unlimited data. By the way, I don’t know the answer to the problem of unskilled labor but the educational system sure hasn’t helped.
    One way would be to give every American, not just rich ones at least a chance to get a quality education for free. New York State is kinda doing something like this where if you make under I think its $120,000 or 100,000/yr you can go to College for free. There are some catches to it such as you have to live in NYS for at least 4yrs after gravitating or else it turns into a loan and there are a couple of other things that I wish weren't there. But, at least its a start. Why can't the US as a whole do this? There are a lot of people in this country that have great potential, but don't want a $100,000+ debt to get there that they may never be able to pay off. We need to start helping the lower and middle class instead of focusing on padding the top 1%'s pockets. We will seriously fail in the end otherwise in my opinion. It may take a while, but this country will start to fail. 
    Who pays for everybody to go to school for free?
    Its built into the state budget. I know what you're probably getting at here...so yes tax payers pay for this. If the federal government did the same thing, it would be the same way. Money doesn't come out of thin air no matter who you are. The point is, the tax payers money is being used appropriately with programs like this. I don't mind paying taxes if its going to go toward programs like this. 
    "Free" school is just another subsidy which devalues and distorts all of the costs associated with the giveaway. Absent a feedback loop, in this case punishment in the form of unemployment for students who choose to pursue studies which serve no marketable need, then it would be tantamount to taxpayer robbery.
    Ummm okay...we'll just have unskilled people in the US then. Only the top 1% are qualified to get an education. 
    Nope. As I mentioned, vocational education skills benefit industry, therefore it only makes sense that industry would voluntarily fund these educational programs for their own benefit. Schooling could be offered at low cost or even for free, depending on their willingness to act in concert for industry benefit or for their own business benefit.
    spinnyd
  • Reply 39 of 51
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,407member
    tiger2 said:

    None of this would've been anticipated or would've happened under any other President who was "expected" to win in 2016.
    Your brilliance in being able to make forecasts about the counterfactual world leaves me.... gobsmacked!
    After 8 years of economic sputtering, no growth, insider payoffs for favors... the change so far has been overall pretty good for business and it looks like it'll get even better. Trump doesn't get a free pass from me on everything, but on business matters his team is performing spectacularly so far. Looking forward to tax reform.
    Not sure which country you're talking about.  

    Final 2016 Jobs Report Marks 75 Consecutive Months of Growth - The ...
    U.S. Economy In Record 73-Month Streak Of Job Growth | HuffPost
    Record Job Growth - 82 Consecutive Months of Job Growth
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_created_during_U.S._presidential_terms

    Notice anything about the chart showing which presidents create the most jobs?   They're all Democrats.  Republicans, like Bush drive the economy over the cliff, then Democrats spend the next 8 years fixing it.  Americans  get amnesia.  Repeat.
    LOL. Listen, enjoy and learn:  http://tomwoods.com/ep-473-does-the-economy-do-better-under-the-democrats-and-has-obama-been-better-than-reagan/
  • Reply 40 of 51
    StrangeDaysStrangeDays Posts: 12,879member
    smalm said:
    "Corning is a great example of a supplier that has continued to innovate and they are one of Apple's long-standing suppliers. This partnership started 10 years ago with the very first iPhone, and today every customer that buys an iPhone or iPad anywhere in the world touches glass that was developed in America. We're extremely proud of our collaboration over the years and we are investing further with Corning who has such a rich legacy of innovative manufacturing practices."

    As a non US customer I'm missing something like "Corning is our supplier because their product is the best". Otherwise Apple should use the alkali aluminosilicate glass from whoever is the best.
    Well, "As a non US customer" you certainly are "missing something", namely: American citizenship, and the accompanying pride and excitement this American citizen is feeling for my country under the leadership of President Trump. Another thing you may be missing is the relative freedom of "free enterprise" in which companies such as Apple can determine their own courses and make their own choices as to which other companies they choose as suppliers. "America first" and "Buy American" have already and will, in the near future, take on very real and vital new meanings as our country recovers from the enforced lethargy from which it has suffered from for far too long.
    Check your facts - we were in in a financial slump during Bush, and after Obama all fiscal metrics were up as we pulled out of the recession. Trump has nothing to do with that. Plus he's an idiot. 
    singularitymacxpress
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