I am sick and tired of Apples lame excuses!
Blaming everything on "recession" (or whatever they choose to call it). What recession, I ask? Look at the iPod. How much recession can there be when people still can afford to buy 400$ walkmen.
(note: I don't have anything against the iPod. In fact I would love to buy one, but, you know...the economy...).
Take a look at the iMac. It hasn't been updated since January!!! (No, the 17" was not a real update, instead it was an addition to the iMac line)
Truth is, the "bad" economy is not the main problem facing Apple right now. If Apple had competitive products they would sell like hot-cakes - recession or no recession.
Of course Motorola and IBM are to blame for the GHz gap, but with that in mind Apple could still make their products competitive in all other areas.
Anyway, I'm buying a new PowerBook november 5 (hopefully), so you can spare the usual "quit the whining, go buy a dell" comments. thanks I'm just pissed about the tired retoric coming from Apple...blame it on the economy....bah
[ 10-28-2002: Message edited by: Power Apple ]</p>
(note: I don't have anything against the iPod. In fact I would love to buy one, but, you know...the economy...).
Take a look at the iMac. It hasn't been updated since January!!! (No, the 17" was not a real update, instead it was an addition to the iMac line)
Truth is, the "bad" economy is not the main problem facing Apple right now. If Apple had competitive products they would sell like hot-cakes - recession or no recession.
Of course Motorola and IBM are to blame for the GHz gap, but with that in mind Apple could still make their products competitive in all other areas.
Anyway, I'm buying a new PowerBook november 5 (hopefully), so you can spare the usual "quit the whining, go buy a dell" comments. thanks I'm just pissed about the tired retoric coming from Apple...blame it on the economy....bah
[ 10-28-2002: Message edited by: Power Apple ]</p>
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There is definitely a recession, at least in America.
While I am glad you got that off your chest, I doubt there is anything more to be said.
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There is definitely a recession, at least in America.
While I am glad you got that off your chest, I doubt there is anything more to be said.</strong><hr></blockquote>
If there is a recession in America, there is one all over the world. Maybe that's why they are all pissed at us?
We're not technically in recession, last time I checked. Sorry to bust ya bubble.
Given current prices, Apple can't hope to do well in this recession
But what is Jobs going to say in public? He can't very well tell the public that sales are down because the current Powermacs are dogs. He's got to maintain an image for Apple, or else sales would slump even further.
What is said behind closed doors at Apple is far different than what is said to the media. Remember that next time you start to lose it over the latest soundbite of an Apple exec blaming the economy.
It might not be a recession, but it's not good news. That means Apple can point to it as a satisfactory answer, whether or not the performance of their high-end machines is also an issue. Dawg is right that Steve can dodge in public, but if he does he has to have a plausible dodge.
As to the iPod: In the US at least, consumers are still spending, despite all. It's the corporate sector that's cutting back right now. That directly impacts a lot of Apple customers.
Apple's current product offerings suck
End of story.
Honest and succinct.
The same people will always say that Apple's hardware sucks no matter what they release. Mark my words.
If they really have a lot of performance advantage I wouldn't mind paying more.
I never say things suck without valid reason
But hey somehow they are still in business, that's more than you can say about Compaq, and Parkard Bell(at least not in the US market, thank god)
<strong>What is said behind closed doors at Apple is far different than what is said to the media. Remember that next time you start to lose it over the latest soundbite of an Apple exec blaming the economy.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Not only that, I expect Apple aren't looking at the here and now, including the current economic situation, they're looking a year or two down the line. I'd imagine as soon as a product is released, it's come and gone as far as Apple is concerned. Perhaps the Apple labs are full of new hardware that gives the execs full confidence in the future.
[ 10-28-2002: Message edited by: RodUK ]</p>
its hard for apple who already owns such a small percentage of the market, to expand when most people are like "well the dell I got last time worked for me..I guess, I'll just get another"
everytime people buy a computer is not necesarilly a moment when they are considering alot of options...people buy what they feel comfortable with, and that makes it extremely difficult to get people to buy Apple computers, when most people have heard so many misconceptions and bad ideas about macs and the mac os.
the iPod was released during the tail end of an MP3 player booming market...everyone wanted an Mp3 player...they don't get half as much press and hoopla generated anymore, but a year ago it was a totally different story...now that everyone has an mp3 player that market is saturated too.
granted the iPod is without question the best mp3 player out there for most purposes and its still selling well because of that.
Apple needs to put alot of guns behind its switch campaign, cause once people go mac its hard to go back.
[ 10-28-2002: Message edited by: Wrong Robust ]</p>
<strong>cause once people go mac its hard to go back.
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That isn't what I am seeing, I am seeing alot of long time and even lifelong Mac users switching to the PC.
People who would once get into a physical fight defending the honour of the mac, people who used to garnish casual conversation with terms such as "PC Weenie" are buying PC's in large numbers.
It ain't gonna happen. It's a company with a niche market that may never grow much larger than 5%. I won't use the car analogy but let's look at a company like Bang & Olufsen. Been around for years with products priced out of this world. But it's still around.
But should the sky fall, someone will be there to buy it and keep it alive. There's just too much invested in Macintosh based industries (primarily publishing and design) for anyone to let it just die.
[ 10-28-2002: Message edited by: satchmo ]</p>
This is the first time I have seen large numbers of the "rabid" mac users switching to PC's
It is like the boy who cried wolf, apple is dying, the sky is falling.
However, this time Apple actually is dying. Apple won't have their own wedge on the piechart at the rate Apple is losing marketshare, before long Apple will be doinging the "Other" wedge