Good move by the EU. The EU seems to be the only real sane, pro-society-thinking body in civilization these days; not the Americans or the British.
Ya, because they got one thing right, maybe. It hasn't passed yet. I wouldn't count on it passing either without it being butchered. Considering all the other things the EU gets wrong. I'm going to say America is far better place. It was also the Europe that got up into 2 world wars!! So thanks!
What things has the EU got so wrong? While being far from perfect, the good far outweighs the bad IMO and one of the biggest benefits has been a lack of military conflict among member states.
I'd say data protection, consumer protection, environmental protection, health legislation, the unification of legislation, common standards, etc are many examples of things the EU has got right.
My part of the world is on the verge of getting a fine for not reducing particle suspension in pollution. If it weren't for the EU, there would be little incentive for local government to comply.
Good move by the EU. The EU seems to be the only real sane, pro-society-thinking body in civilization these days; not the Americans or the British.
Ya, because they got one thing right, maybe. It hasn't passed yet. I wouldn't count on it passing either without it being butchered. Considering all the other things the EU gets wrong. I'm going to say America is far better place. It was also the Europe that got up into 2 world wars!! So thanks!
The threat from terrorists is the most over blown threat to society if you look at actual numbers. Look at how many people die in car accidents each year, how many from private guns, how many are killed by the police, preventable diseases, poverty and famine. Terrorism gets big ratings and is constantly in the news to sell advertisement for the news companies. Don't even consider giving away your privacy when societies real threats will more likely do you in before a member of ISIS moves into your block.
What the hell are private guns? Also, I didn't realize an inanimate object could just get up all by itself and kill people.
Private guns = guns in the hands of private citizens vs guns in the hands of law enforcement or military. "Also, I didn't realize an inanimate object could just get up all by itself and kill people." Okay then why do people own them? Answer= to kill someone or themselves.
Good move by the EU. The EU seems to be the only real sane, pro-society-thinking body in civilization these days; not the Americans or the British.
Ya, because they got one thing right, maybe. It hasn't passed yet. I wouldn't count on it passing either without it being butchered. Considering all the other things the EU gets wrong. I'm going to say America is far better place. It was also the Europe that got up into 2 world wars!! So thanks!
What things has the EU got so wrong?
It could be argued that the destruction of the European Union countries and their replacement with an Islamic caliphate could be construed as a negative.
Good move by the EU. The EU seems to be the only real sane, pro-society-thinking body in civilization these days; not the Americans or the British.
Ya, because they got one thing right, maybe. It hasn't passed yet. I wouldn't count on it passing either without it being butchered. Considering all the other things the EU gets wrong. I'm going to say America is far better place. It was also the Europe that got up into 2 world wars!! So thanks!
What things has the EU got so wrong?
It could be argued that the destruction of the European Union countries and their replacement with an Islamic caliphate could be construed as a negative.
Good move by the EU. The EU seems to be the only real sane, pro-society-thinking body in civilization these days; not the Americans or the British.
Ya, because they got one thing right, maybe. It hasn't passed yet. I wouldn't count on it passing either without it being butchered. Considering all the other things the EU gets wrong. I'm going to say America is far better place. It was also the Europe that got up into 2 world wars!! So thanks!
What things has the EU got so wrong?
It could be argued that the destruction of the European Union countries and their replacement with an Islamic caliphate could be construed as a negative.
Let me know when they've changed to flag to your caliphate nation's. Until, it's just paranoia of the other.
Good move by the EU. The EU seems to be the only real sane, pro-society-thinking body in civilization these days; not the Americans or the British.
Ya, because they got one thing right, maybe. It hasn't passed yet. I wouldn't count on it passing either without it being butchered. Considering all the other things the EU gets wrong. I'm going to say America is far better place. It was also the Europe that got up into 2 world wars!! So thanks!
What things has the EU got so wrong?
It could be argued that the destruction of the European Union countries and their replacement with an Islamic caliphate could be construed as a negative.
That could never be argued. Historically speaking, the EU is where it is now, in great part, due to the strong support of its citizens. It is true that there has been a rise in extreme right wing groups but when you dig deeper, even their supporters have few issues with immigration from the rest of the EU.
Good move by the EU. The EU seems to be the only real sane, pro-society-thinking body in civilization these days; not the Americans or the British.
Ya, because they got one thing right, maybe. It hasn't passed yet. I wouldn't count on it passing either without it being butchered. Considering all the other things the EU gets wrong. I'm going to say America is far better place. It was also the Europe that got up into 2 world wars!! So thanks!
What things has the EU got so wrong?
It could be argued that the destruction of the European Union countries and their replacement with an Islamic caliphate could be construed as a negative.
Good move by the EU. The EU seems to be the only real sane, pro-society-thinking body in civilization these days; not the Americans or the British.
Ya, because they got one thing right, maybe. It hasn't passed yet. I wouldn't count on it passing either without it being butchered. Considering all the other things the EU gets wrong. I'm going to say America is far better place. It was also the Europe that got up into 2 world wars!! So thanks!
What things has the EU got so wrong?
It could be argued that the destruction of the European Union countries and their replacement with an Islamic caliphate could be construed as a negative.
Let me know when they've changed to flag to your caliphate nation's. Until, it's just paranoia of the other.
Good move by the EU. The EU seems to be the only real sane, pro-society-thinking body in civilization these days; not the Americans or the British.
Ya, because they got one thing right, maybe. It hasn't passed yet. I wouldn't count on it passing either without it being butchered. Considering all the other things the EU gets wrong. I'm going to say America is far better place. It was also the Europe that got up into 2 world wars!! So thanks!
What things has the EU got so wrong?
It could be argued that the destruction of the European Union countries and their replacement with an Islamic caliphate could be construed as a negative.
That could never be argued. Historically speaking, the EU is where it is now, in great part, due to the strong support of its citizens. It is true that there has been a rise in extreme right wing groups but when you dig deeper, even their supporters have few issues with immigration from the rest of the EU.
The threat from terrorists is the most over blown threat to society if you look at actual numbers. Look at how many people die in car accidents each year, how many from private guns, how many are killed by the police, preventable diseases, poverty and famine. Terrorism gets big ratings and is constantly in the news to sell advertisement for the news companies. Don't even consider giving away your privacy when societies real threats will more likely do you in before a member of ISIS moves into your block.
If they cared about human lives they would ban tobacco. They don’t. Terrorism is only used to curtail freedoms and governments invoking it are always turning nasty.
Good move by the EU. The EU seems to be the only real sane, pro-society-thinking body in civilization these days; not the Americans or the British.
Ya, because they got one thing right, maybe. It hasn't passed yet. I wouldn't count on it passing either without it being butchered. Considering all the other things the EU gets wrong. I'm going to say America is far better place. It was also the Europe that got up into 2 world wars!! So thanks!
What things has the EU got so wrong?
It could be argued that the destruction of the European Union countries and their replacement with an Islamic caliphate could be construed as a negative.
Good move by the EU. The EU seems to be the only real sane, pro-society-thinking body in civilization these days; not the Americans or the British.
Ya, because they got one thing right, maybe. It hasn't passed yet. I wouldn't count on it passing either without it being butchered. Considering all the other things the EU gets wrong. I'm going to say America is far better place. It was also the Europe that got up into 2 world wars!! So thanks!
What things has the EU got so wrong?
It could be argued that the destruction of the European Union countries and their replacement with an Islamic caliphate could be construed as a negative.
Let me know when they've changed to flag to your caliphate nation's. Until, it's just paranoia of the other.
Good move by the EU. The EU seems to be the only real sane, pro-society-thinking body in civilization these days; not the Americans or the British.
Ya, because they got one thing right, maybe. It hasn't passed yet. I wouldn't count on it passing either without it being butchered. Considering all the other things the EU gets wrong. I'm going to say America is far better place. It was also the Europe that got up into 2 world wars!! So thanks!
What things has the EU got so wrong?
It could be argued that the destruction of the European Union countries and their replacement with an Islamic caliphate could be construed as a negative.
That could never be argued. Historically speaking, the EU is where it is now, in great part, due to the strong support of its citizens. It is true that there has been a rise in extreme right wing groups but when you dig deeper, even their supporters have few issues with immigration from the rest of the EU.
Time will tell, huh?
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Yes, but since Brexit and the French elections, surveys suggest a rise in pro EU sentiment.
The EU doesn't do a great job at 'selling' itself and that makes it far easier for minority Eurosceptic (and non-EU) parties to criticise it. The facts, and there are a lot them, are there for all to see but not sold as well as they could be.
...one of the biggest benefits has been a lack of military conflict among member states.
You're literally just creating WWIII, you know that, right? First of all, NATO (which also shouldn't exist) prevented war decades before the EU became codified. You're welcome for paying for your defense; the free ride is fucking over. Second, nothing is actually preventing them from going to war if they wanted to do so. You act as though it's "progressive" to behave in this way. You're just building tension far higher than at any other point in history.
the unification of legislation
Explain how this is useful to anyone except the legislators without using communist buzzwords.
...extreme right wing groups but when you dig deeper, even their supporters have few issues with immigration from the rest of the EU.
Real cute. Just invent a strawman and make your position look better. Are you fucking paid to do this or something? I'm seeing talking points and buzzwords like I usually only see from paid shills on other websites. You know exactly what the issues are, but you can't address them because you're objectively wrong, so you reframe the argument in a way that makes you look good and boom; as long as you call people names for questioning exactly what you said, they won't be able to return the conversation to where it was.
Working time directive : millions gain the right to paid holiday. Protection of workers from abusive work patterns and defined dest periids between shifts. Erasmus scheme: allowing thousands of students every year to study in a foreign country. Ended mobile phone companies ripping customers off on roaming charges Setting parental leave The right to be forgotten. Clean water directive. European medicines agency. Data protection. Flight compensation. R.E.A.C.H EFSA
Not an exhaustive list by far but proves the EU is not all bad.
Not an exhaustive list by far but proves the EU is not all bad.
None of what you said required or was contingent upon a supranational union which was founded to destroy all the countries and cultures of Europe. Not a single damn bit of it. I will address a singular point now:
Not an exhaustive list by far but proves the EU is not all bad.
None of what you said required or was contingent upon a supranational union which was founded to destroy all the countries and cultures of Europe. Not a single damn bit of it. I will address a singular point now:
The right to be forgotten.
The EU will be forgotten within a decade.
Of course non on those was contingent on the existence of the EU. But it sped the creation and adoption of those regulations as law across 28 countries far faster than would expected if it was bilateraly negotiated between all those countries.
As for your statement about it being founded to destroy all those countries and cultures... well it's quite dramatically failed to do that since the treaty of Rome was signed 60 years ago.
And 52% of my fellow British referendum voters acted in the worst interests for the UK.
After getting the "Snoopers Charter" through Parliament, our despotic PM, Theresa May, wants to have all UK citizens fully monitored by surveillance teams based at GCHQ and the NSA. No doubt, Shin Bet and MOSSAD are there in the mix somewhere.
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I'd say data protection, consumer protection, environmental protection, health legislation, the unification of legislation, common standards, etc are many examples of things the EU has got right.
My part of the world is on the verge of getting a fine for not reducing particle suspension in pollution. If it weren't for the EU, there would be little incentive for local government to comply.
"Also, I didn't realize an inanimate object could just get up all by itself and kill people." Okay then why do people own them? Answer= to kill someone or themselves.
Time will tell, huh?
😉
it are always turning nasty.
The EU doesn't do a great job at 'selling' itself and that makes it far easier for minority Eurosceptic (and non-EU) parties to criticise it. The facts, and there are a lot them, are there for all to see but not sold as well as they could be.
What good?
You're literally just creating WWIII, you know that, right? First of all, NATO (which also shouldn't exist) prevented war decades before the EU became codified. You're welcome for paying for your defense; the free ride is fucking over. Second, nothing is actually preventing them from going to war if they wanted to do so. You act as though it's "progressive" to behave in this way. You're just building tension far higher than at any other point in history.
Explain how this is useful to anyone except the legislators without using communist buzzwords.
Real cute. Just invent a strawman and make your position look better. Are you fucking paid to do this or something? I'm seeing talking points and buzzwords like I usually only see from paid shills on other websites. You know exactly what the issues are, but you can't address them because you're objectively wrong, so you reframe the argument in a way that makes you look good and boom; as long as you call people names for questioning exactly what you said, they won't be able to return the conversation to where it was.
Erasmus scheme: allowing thousands of students every year to study in a foreign country.
Ended mobile phone companies ripping customers off on roaming charges
Setting parental leave
The right to be forgotten.
Clean water directive.
European medicines agency.
Data protection.
Flight compensation.
R.E.A.C.H
EFSA
Not an exhaustive list by far but proves the EU is not all bad.
The EU will be forgotten within a decade.
As for your statement about it being founded to destroy all those countries and cultures... well it's quite dramatically failed to do that since the treaty of Rome was signed 60 years ago.
After getting the "Snoopers Charter" through Parliament, our despotic PM, Theresa May, wants to have all UK citizens fully monitored by surveillance teams based at GCHQ and the NSA. No doubt, Shin Bet and MOSSAD are there in the mix somewhere.