This seems like a dumb move. There's no way they'll ever get enough subscribers to warrant the cost of getting on-board with labels and artists or building a music service that could revive Spotify, Apple Music, or others.
I best the best method for enticing and keeping buyers is to simply have the entertainment options that buyers want. This also includes adding CarPlay and Android Autio to their systems.
If it's just a free/cheap perk for being a Tesla owner, though, it might serve its purpose. Yes, streaming deals aren't cheap, but neither are Teslas or their upgrade packages.
It couldn't possibly be free. They're already not making a profit. They may never make a profit.
This is technically incorrect. Tesla's made a profit at least one quarter, if I recall correctly. Your point isn't lost on me though; there were government subsidies involved (but hey, all automakers have the same access to those subsidies, so I still think my point is valid).
Post a link please?
You know the word "profit" means "Net Income", right?
If their goal is to "achieve maximum happiness for our customers," then I'd suggest they offer support for CarPlay and Android Auto as *well* as their own service (if they choose to go that route), so that the customer -- not the carmaker -- decides what they want to use/pay for. Both CarPlay and Android Auto offer access to to Spotify and Apple Music (among the few remaining others), so if there were genuine customer choice this wouldn't be an issue.
]There are way more than 2 dozen Tesla owners within a mile of my house.
Really? Where do you live? I do see them about 3 or 4 times a week and it's usually while I'm out and about, not just doing errands around town. As I mentioned in my last post, I've seen a Model X where I work a few times but it's the only one I've seen. I mostly see the Model S. I wouldn't say it's common to see them but I certainly wouldn't say uncommon either. Seriously, I see Ferraris and Bentleys more frequently than I see Teslas.
I live in Indiana. The State has made it very difficult to purchase one here, and there are no incentives. In fact there is talk of adding an EXTRA tax on EVs here, because they do not pay any road tax at the gas pump. But they are everywhere. In reality probably more than a thousand sold locally.
I'm not interested in maintaining music libraries on multiple services so I'm inclined to use a service that not only cares about my music experience in my car but also in my home, at my work and every other time I'm not in my car.
So while Tesla doing this might help people who only listen to music in their car, I'd like Tesla to maintain/introduce options to integrate with Apple Music, Spotify, Pandora, etc.
That is the way it works now with Tesla. Except that Tesla uses TuneIn and Slacker (Spotify outside North America). You can use the same account on all of your devices, any type, not just Apple devices. Tesla establishes the account with each service, which you can log in with on any device. It it possible to upgrade the subscription on either service and use that in your car. But you can use the Tesla provided account on your iPhone without an upgrade.
]There are way more than 2 dozen Tesla owners within a mile of my house.
Really? Where do you live? I do see them about 3 or 4 times a week and it's usually while I'm out and about, not just doing errands around town. As I mentioned in my last post, I've seen a Model X where I work a few times but it's the only one I've seen. I mostly see the Model S. I wouldn't say it's common to see them but I certainly wouldn't say uncommon either. Seriously, I see Ferraris and Bentleys more frequently than I see Teslas.
In fact there is talk of adding an EXTRA tax on EVs here, because they do not pay any road tax at the gas pump.
"Those darn Tesla tax evaders!! What are we gonna do about them?!?"
This seems like a dumb move. There's no way they'll ever get enough subscribers to warrant the cost of getting on-board with labels and artists or building a music service that could revival Spotify, Apple Music, or others.
I best the best method for enticing and keeping buyers is to simply have the entertainment options that buyers want. This also includes adding CarPlay and Android Autio to their systems.
I think it's a dumb move but if that's what it takes for them to rework their terribly dated console UI then more power to them.
Some things to note: If like me you use Siri for many functions while driving, Tesla doesn't care about you. I do a lot through Siri encompassing; iMessage, reminders, Apple Music control, multiple HomeKit functions, calendar appointments, emails, calls, general reference questions and a few other silly things. I understand that not everyone is locked into Apples ecosystem, nor rely on Siri so heavily but for me she's indispensable. My phone is in my pocket or computer bag a lot of the time to keep me from looking at it and I shouldn't have to make compromises in an ~80,000 vehicle. If Tesla really wanted me as a customer they would support my needs, while attempting to dazzle me with their proprietary infotainment system. That's also why I will not buy a Lexus/Toyota, good luck out performing Apple and Google, maybe Samsung can help you with your Linux. Full Disclosure: I want to love Tesla but actually cannot get past how horribly boring and bland they appear. Tesla had an opportunity to craft a polarizing beauty, without the trappings of petrol systems. Even the BMW i8 has character, too bad that partnership never happened...
With more luxury sports car brands and mid-range cars from world leaders emerge into the market Tesla's sparkle will begin to dim. He'll be looking to sell within 3 years.
With more luxury sports car brands and mid-range cars from world leaders emerge into the market Tesla's sparkle will begin to dim. He'll be looking to sell within 3 years.
If they don't start making money I feel as if they'll just die off completely. I don't get why people ooo and ahhh over these. Its a friggin electric vehicle with TONS of issues left and right.
But you're right...as more and more electric vehicles come to market, Tesla will become less and less of a player. I don't think they even need to be luxury vehicles. Pretty soon they'll really be no different than Ford whatever its called thats fully electric for a similar price.
As a Tesla owner I'm not sure of the point of this. As for adding CarPlay or Android Auto I have no trouble streaming music, podcasts or audiobooks through the audio system via bluetooth (and is controllable via the Tesla's audio controls). The big advantage of CarPlay is getting maps and directions in cars that wouldn't otherwise have GPS. The Tesla guidance system is a combo of Garmin and Google Maps which is more than adequate.
You are leaving out sending/receiving iMessages, etc. You are also ignoring privacy/security aspect. Remember that Google is collecting all of that data on where you go, stop, etc., and linking it via a universal identifying number to a central dossier on you along with your emails, photos, web searches, postings, friends, families, purchases, etc. Hopefully, soon it will be illegal for a company to amass these dossiers that can be used by governments, law enforcement, intel agencies, hackers, criminals, private companies, etc.
I don't understand the allure of Tesla vehicles. I don't particularly care for the looks of any of them. Yesterday I saw a Model X parked behind the building where I work. I took a minute to really get a good look and still, it doesnt' do anything for me. The touchscreen looks much too big to me, but that's from the outside looking in. Maybe if I drove one my view would be different. While they get good range for an electric vehicle it still isn't very high. I kinda feel like the interest for Tesla's is similar to the interest in a Prius: people tend to get them because they look different
*years ago I read an article in Car and Driver that had a sidebar about how difficult it was to get a Prius (I think this was the same article that had another sidebar where they tested a Prius and a MB Diesel (don't remember which model) at highway speeds on a closed course and the Prius got terrible mileage overall and the MB got high mileage). At the time, according to the article, you could walk onto a Ford lot and drive out in a Escape Hybrid. Same for a Honda Civic Hybrid. But if you wanted a Prius there was something like a 2 or 3 month wait list AND you paid a premium. The author's conclusion was that the Escape and Civic hybrids looked exactly like their non-hybrid counterparts and thus there was no visual benefit to owning one over a Prius. Yes, it's speculation, but I haven't heard a better theory as to why the Prius had a wait list.
As someone who waited for one during that shortage (due to a battery plant fire in Japan), I can tell you why: the Honda hybrids (which I owed one and drove for 13 years), are vastly inferior to the Prius design, the Prius is much heavier and quiet and drives like a normal car, but gets 50mpg on the freeway with 4 adults. It's an amazing piece of engineering.
I test drove a neighbor's new tesla model x p100d - absolutely amazing car - it was so fast it made my head hurt, was quiet and high end - if I had the spare cash I would get one without a second thought.
test drive one, do your home work and you will see what all the buzz is about - oh and it doesn't use Middle East oil - the $$ stays in the good o US of A.
As a Tesla owner I'm not sure of the point of this. As for adding CarPlay or Android Auto I have no trouble streaming music, podcasts or audiobooks through the audio system via bluetooth (and is controllable via the Tesla's audio controls). The big advantage of CarPlay is getting maps and directions in cars that wouldn't otherwise have GPS. The Tesla guidance system is a combo of Garmin and Google Maps which is more than adequate.
You are leaving out sending/receiving iMessages, etc. You are also ignoring privacy/security aspect. Remember that Google is collecting all of that data on where you go, stop, etc., and linking it via a universal identifying number to a central dossier on you along with your emails, photos, web searches, postings, friends, families, purchases, etc. Hopefully, soon it will be illegal for a company to amass these dossiers that can be used by governments, law enforcement, intel agencies, hackers, criminals, private companies, etc.
You can reset your "universal identifying number" at Google if you'd like to start over. Opt out of all of it for that matter. Or just reset your entire account. It's not at all hard to do, nor is it secret. https://support.google.com/ads/answer/2662922?hl=en
...Unless of course you don't have a Google account in which case it doesn't matter as I've never seen any evidence, nor even a hint, that they maintain files on you as an Apple user without a Google account. So there's nothing to dispose of AFAIK. Of course there are a whole lotta Google services users out there so the chances are better than 50/50 IMHO that a Western Hemisphere Apple user might be a switch-hitter, accounts at both companies.
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You know the word "profit" means "Net Income", right?
That is the way it works now with Tesla. Except that Tesla uses TuneIn and Slacker (Spotify outside North America). You can use the same account on all of your devices, any type, not just Apple devices. Tesla establishes the account with each service, which you can log in with on any device. It it possible to upgrade the subscription on either service and use that in your car. But you can use the Tesla provided account on your iPhone without an upgrade.
If like me you use Siri for many functions while driving, Tesla doesn't care about you. I do a lot through Siri encompassing; iMessage, reminders, Apple Music control, multiple HomeKit functions, calendar appointments, emails, calls, general reference questions and a few other silly things. I understand that not everyone is locked into Apples ecosystem, nor rely on Siri so heavily but for me she's indispensable. My phone is in my pocket or computer bag a lot of the time to keep me from looking at it and I shouldn't have to make compromises in an ~80,000 vehicle. If Tesla really wanted me as a customer they would support my needs, while attempting to dazzle me with their proprietary infotainment system. That's also why I will not buy a Lexus/Toyota, good luck out performing Apple and Google, maybe Samsung can help you with your Linux.
Full Disclosure: I want to love Tesla but actually cannot get past how horribly boring and bland they appear. Tesla had an opportunity to craft a polarizing beauty, without the trappings of petrol systems. Even the BMW i8 has character, too bad that partnership never happened...
But you're right...as more and more electric vehicles come to market, Tesla will become less and less of a player. I don't think they even need to be luxury vehicles. Pretty soon they'll really be no different than Ford whatever its called thats fully electric for a similar price.
I test drove a neighbor's new tesla model x p100d - absolutely amazing car - it was so fast it made my head hurt, was quiet and high end - if I had the spare cash I would get one without a second thought.
test drive one, do your home work and you will see what all the buzz is about - oh and it doesn't use Middle East oil - the $$ stays in the good o US of A.
https://support.google.com/ads/answer/2662922?hl=en
...Unless of course you don't have a Google account in which case it doesn't matter as I've never seen any evidence, nor even a hint, that they maintain files on you as an Apple user without a Google account. So there's nothing to dispose of AFAIK. Of course there are a whole lotta Google services users out there so the chances are better than 50/50 IMHO that a Western Hemisphere Apple user might be a switch-hitter, accounts at both companies.