Questionable report claims Apple shipping 'influx' of next-gen iPhones with Touch ID on ba...

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  • Reply 21 of 52
    rotateleftbyterotateleftbyte Posts: 1,649member
    At the end of the day we're all going to line up and buy one regardless to where the Touch ID is.
    That's where you are 1,000,000% wrong. I won't be buying one if the TouchID is on the back like that Samsung failure.
    I know that I'm not alone in that.
    If it is on the front then I might just possibly buy one but I don't need a new phone.

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  • Reply 22 of 52
    At the end of the day we're all going to line up and buy one regardless to where the Touch ID is.
    That's where you are 1,000,000% wrong. I won't be buying one if the TouchID is on the back like that Samsung failure.
    I know that I'm not alone in that.
    If it is on the front then I might just possibly buy one but I don't need a new phone.


    Here is the thing - Samsung put it in wrong position (adjacent to camera, NOT below camera). Other Android OEMs have not done this mistake. Don't expect Apple to make the same mistake which Samsung did. If there are technical challenges in implementing it under the screen, Apple would put it in the most logical place possible (center on the backside), given the constraints.

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  • Reply 23 of 52
    macxpressmacxpress Posts: 6,015member
    At the end of the day we're all going to line up and buy one regardless to where the Touch ID is.
    That's where you are 1,000,000% wrong. I won't be buying one if the TouchID is on the back like that Samsung failure.
    I know that I'm not alone in that.
    If it is on the front then I might just possibly buy one but I don't need a new phone.

    You in the same boat of people who said they'd never buy an iPhone without a headphone jack...which is in the grand scheme of things, the minority. I'm willing to bet some (maybe most) bought the phone anyways.

    Until you know how it works to begin with if it does have TouchID on the rear, why would you just say you're not going to buy one? This simply doesn't make any sense. 
    edited July 2017
    StrangeDays
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  • Reply 24 of 52
    wizard69wizard69 Posts: 13,377member
    I'm not buying the rumors of Touch ID on the back of the iPhone. Apple wouldn't do something like that. 
    Why not?   Seriously they have shaken up their market before.   


    Personally i don't understand why people are making a big deal over this.   The most interesting things in the coming iPhones have had zero leaks.  Zip!    Wake me when the info on the new GPU or AI chip arrives.  Even the new camera will be more interesying than the placement of the touch ID button.  
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  • Reply 25 of 52
    rogifan_newrogifan_new Posts: 4,297member
    This is NOT happening. Period.
    And you can say this that confidently because?
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  • Reply 26 of 52
    22july201322july2013 Posts: 3,844member
    Your index finger comes to rest right around that spot when you hold the phone in one hand. The weight of the phone on that finger should be adequate to activate Touch ID. Quite a decent design. On the other hand if I were putting an inductive charger on the phone I would put it dead centre for symmetry and ease of use (because you would need to put the phone down onto a charger while seeing only the front side of the phone). The fact that this is exactly where the finger would rest suggests it's an intentional location for the finger. So if the odds are 99 to 1 against this rumour, I'd put up 1 dollar against a 99 dollar bet against it.
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  • Reply 27 of 52
    wizard69wizard69 Posts: 13,377member
    At the end of the day we're all going to line up and buy one regardless to where the Touch ID is.
    That's where you are 1,000,000% wrong. I won't be buying one if the TouchID is on the back like that Samsung failure.
    I know that I'm not alone in that.
    If it is on the front then I might just possibly buy one but I don't need a new phone.

    First off you imply that Samsungs design is a failure but that appearrs to be a personal point pulled out of your ass.  Second it is pretty silly to reject something you havent tried yet.  And no you havent tried it yet because Apple has yet to ship their solution.  

    As for needing a new iPhone I'm with you on that, i really dont understand peoples desire to replace a cell phone every year.   Seems like a waste of money
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  • Reply 28 of 52
    StrangeDaysstrangedays Posts: 13,226member
    At the end of the day we're all going to line up and buy one regardless to where the Touch ID is. As bad of a mistake it may be to move it to the back, when the iPhone 8 or 7S or X or SE 2 or Anniversary Edition drops we'll be there with our wallets open and hands out. We're all disappointed every year by one dumb thing they do with the phone. Like release the 6 and 6 plus for a 3rd year in a row. If I had to bet I'd say we're looking at some dumb Oppo phone parts. Whatever it is it won't drive me away from the platform. Period. 
    That isn't remotely true. They have similar shells, but claiming they're the same as the 6 would be as silly as claiming that a new TV or receiver is the same as one from years ago because they have similar cabinets. of even a three-year-old PC, with completely different mobo, cpu, gpu, etc but in the same case. Yet that's what youre claiming with iphones -- this makes zero sense.
    edited July 2017
    radarthekatfastasleep
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  • Reply 29 of 52
    StrangeDaysstrangedays Posts: 13,226member
    sully54 said:
    williamh said:
    sully54 said:
    In the past, when rumours are this persistent, they end up being true. 
    And how does that work out when there are persistent contradictory rumors?  Have there not been persistent rumors that the touch ID would be under the front glass?
    These are your contradictory rumours. The fact that these rumours just won't die could mean that there's some truth to them. 
    Actually, no, the fact that the rumors exist doesn't add to the potential truthiness of the claims being made. See the persistence of rumors about yeti, ghosts, angels, etc -- very persistent, but impart no truthiness in the claims as facts. 
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  • Reply 30 of 52
    rotateleftbyterotateleftbyte Posts: 1,649member
    wizard69 said:
    At the end of the day we're all going to line up and buy one regardless to where the Touch ID is.
    That's where you are 1,000,000% wrong. I won't be buying one if the TouchID is on the back like that Samsung failure.
    I know that I'm not alone in that.
    If it is on the front then I might just possibly buy one but I don't need a new phone.

    First off you imply that Samsungs design is a failure but that appearrs to be a personal point pulled out of your ass.  Second it is pretty silly to reject something you havent tried yet.  And no you havent tried it yet because Apple has yet to ship their solution.  

    As for needing a new iPhone I'm with you on that, i really dont understand peoples desire to replace a cell phone every year.   Seems like a waste of money
     I have tried the S8 and from an ease of use point of view, it failed when compared to other phones including the S7. The Touch Id sensor on the back really is in the wrong place.
    I could not unlock it with the phone on the desk or in the holder on my dash. That's why I call it a failure. From an ease of use POV it is several steps backwards. If Apple do the same then I'll call it a failure as well.
    I'm glad we agree on the lack of need to replace a phone every year.

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  • Reply 31 of 52
    StrangeDaysstrangedays Posts: 13,226member
    wizard69 said:
    At the end of the day we're all going to line up and buy one regardless to where the Touch ID is.
    That's where you are 1,000,000% wrong. I won't be buying one if the TouchID is on the back like that Samsung failure.
    I know that I'm not alone in that.
    If it is on the front then I might just possibly buy one but I don't need a new phone.

    First off you imply that Samsungs design is a failure but that appearrs to be a personal point pulled out of your ass.
    He didn't pull that out of his ass -- several reviews I saw said they were unhappy with the placement of the sensor, due to inadvertently and routinely placing their fingers over the camera lens by mistake, smudging it. That's a failure in design.
    edited July 2017
    tmay
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  • Reply 32 of 52
    jbdragonjbdragon Posts: 2,315member
    I'm not buying the rumors of Touch ID on the back of the iPhone. Apple wouldn't do something like that. 
    It would be pretty dumb. Might as well leave it on the front. I wouldn't buy it.
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  • Reply 33 of 52
    Marvinmarvin Posts: 15,586moderator
    asdasd said:
    I remember the leaks of the first camera that wasnt flush. Nobody believed that either.
    Touch id on the back would mean Apple would have to put an additional large hole in their official cases:

    https://www.apple.com/shop/iphone/iphone-accessories/cases-protection



    Still possible but not for their battery one, where would the hole go?:


    The touch id sensor isn't as big as the home button itself so Apple could still shrink the bezel significantly without the circular button:



    There still needs to be a home button of some kind. If they have a new sensor round the edge of the phone, that can be used for home but it's not immediately intuitive. It's better to have a visual indicator of how to get back to the icon view and activated in a way that's deliberate.

    This can be done with software though, the bottom part of the screen can have an area reserved for the home button action. This allows Apple to display a visual print when touch id is required and it can animate the scan:

    Image result for animated thumbprint gif

    Whatever scanning method they come up with, I don't see how touch id can go on the back, especially not where the images in the article suggest as that's where the internal battery sits.
    edited July 2017
    asdasdradarthekatbestkeptsecret
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  • Reply 34 of 52
    phone-ui-guyphone-ui-guy Posts: 1,019member
    Touch ID on the back makes no sense. It would be a terrible experience. Perhaps Apple is doing wireless charging like the apple watch and putting a concave receptacle on the back and the charger will be inverted from the watch charger to sit in the recess. Doubt they would put a bump on the back of the phone shaped like the watch just to use the same cable. Creating yet another cable is just like Apple however....
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  • Reply 35 of 52
    getvoxoagetvoxoa Posts: 84member
    I'm fine with the Touch ID on the back provided that you can use one finger to lock down the iPhone and disable Touch ID. 
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  • Reply 36 of 52
    teejay2012teejay2012 Posts: 434member
    I think that Apple will use a DNA based security system, in which a tiny needle will pick your finger with the power button, and then unlock the phone if the DNA matches.
    Now that James Comey is gone from the FBI, Apple feels comfortable that the government will not press Apple to share DNA identification with the government. /double s
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  • Reply 37 of 52
    radarthekatradarthekat Posts: 3,944moderator
    I think that Apple will use a DNA based security system, in which a tiny needle will pick your finger with the power button, and then unlock the phone if the DNA matches.
    Now that James Comey is gone from the FBI, Apple feels comfortable that the government will not press Apple to share DNA identification with the government. /double s
    That's crazy talk.  Isn't it obvious, with the better water resistance, that Apple intends to use a non-invasive urine unlock mechanism on this year's iPhone? It'll be called Wee ID.  The circular opening on the back of the phone provides a target to aim at.   /s^2
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  • Reply 38 of 52
    anomeanome Posts: 1,545member
    I think that Apple will use a DNA based security system, in which a tiny needle will pick your finger with the power button, and then unlock the phone if the DNA matches.
    Now that James Comey is gone from the FBI, Apple feels comfortable that the government will not press Apple to share DNA identification with the government. /double s
    The phrase "just a little prick with an iPhone" takes on a whole new meaning...
    teejay2012
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  • Reply 39 of 52
    mattinozmattinoz Posts: 2,688member
    sully54 said:
    In the past, when rumours are this persistent, they end up being true. 
    I'd like to see some stats on that claim, maybe a graph.
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  • Reply 40 of 52
    evilutionevilution Posts: 1,399member
    Touch ID under the screen > Touch ID on the back > Facial recognition.
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