Apple iOS App Store continues dominance over Google Play in earnings battle, gap widening

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  • Reply 21 of 23
    tmaytmay Posts: 3,667member
    avon b7 said:
    tmay said:
    avon b7 said:
    tmay said:
    avon b7 said:
    This is only Google Play Android.

    What happens when all the other Android stores are added onto the Google Play results?

    https://techcrunch.com/2017/03/29/app-annie-android-to-top-ios-in-app-store-revenue-this-year/


    What happens is that today, the collective revenue of all of the Android Stores is still less than that of Apple. I'm speculating that after the release of Apple's iPhone 8, iOS 11, and all of those AR apps, Apple will still lead next year.

    Did you get your participation trophy today? 
    So, you reply to my post stating something as fact - today - and providing nothing factuaI to back it up and then less an hour later and, in the same thread, you take issue with a poster for not supporting his claims  with a link?

    A poster with just three posts under his belt and instead of giving him the benefit of the doubt you go on the offensive.

    I think today, all you can go by is some App Annie data (or from some similiar mechanism) so in reality you cannot have even the slightest idea of what the situation is today to base your statement on. However, if we accept App Annie as a viable indicator, the link I provided forecast that combined Android App store revenue would surpass the Apple App Store (and by a decent margin) this year. We are nearly in August and the year is winding down. Nothing much will happen between now and September. You don't think that the change could have happened already?

    The link also indicated that 75% of world app store revenue came from just five countries. If just one of those countries were to 'wobble' the general forecast would be impacted.

    Now, two of the five are the UK and China.

    The economic indicators for the UK this year (and going forward) are bleak (I'm being kind with that adjective) and China has been a tough sell for Apple this year with competitors pushing Apple down the sales ranking. Do you need links for those or can we say that these points are generally accepted?

    What impact could this have on Apple App Store revenues in 2017?

    Of course, we can't know but at least I'm painting a picture based on tangible information and joining the dots with logic few people could scoff at.

    I could even expand on that and say that a large part of app store revenues are attributable to games and subscriptions. Now, subscriptions are exactly the kind of thing that gets the chop when personal budgets constrict. Do you think that consumer optimism is at an all time high in the UK right now? And China? What impact will China Android sales have on Android app store metrics?

    Your personal forecast for iOS 11 and AR apps just amounts to wishful thinking today.

    No need to comment on your trophy comment.







    I speculated, in actual fact I used the word "speculating", that Apple would, because of iOS 11 and ARKit, have increased app sales later in the year that would make your App Annie prediction inaccurate. I stated nothing as a fact, and the App Annie link is as well a prediction that is not yet fact. But today, based only on your link, the iOS App Store still has greater revenue than all of the Android Stores combines. 

    When it happens that all of the combined Android App Stores exceed the revenue of the iOS App Store, then come by AI and post a factual link, and gloat. In the meantime, it hasn't happened, and more to the point, the original post was fully accurate comparing Google Play with the iOS App Store.

    As to the other poster; he has only complained and/or called out AI Members in his three posts, hasn't added anything to the conversation, and hasn't earned the right to be taken seriously. 
    You realise my link was from March and your post was about now?

    Have you seen anything to back up your statement that the Apple App Store is still (today) topping the revenue charts against the combined Android app stores?

    My reply was there on that point first. My post mentioned a forecast, a prediction (and from the same data source as the AI article) a d Included the link. Your post stated that the forecast hadn't become reality yet.  How do you know? Do you have figures for today? If you have them, all I ask is that you post the link because that's what you are complaining about with the other poster. Shouldn't you be practicing what you preach? 

    A completely different issue is your speculation on the impact of iOS 11. That's fine and that's exactly why I didn't take issue with it in my reply although it amounts to wishful thinking (today) as iOS 11 and AR apps have yet to become available. Speculate all you want (I do exactly the same) but when you start claiming facts that you don't or can't backup, you are on thin ice. When you complain about others doing the same (and in the same thread), the ice breaks.
    Find current data supporting your argument. Post it. Gloat.

    In the meantime, lacking any additional data over that link that you provided, and not being obligated myself to search for anything more current, I'm free to use that data in my argument; the summary of which is that iOS App Store still leads all of the Android OS stores combined.
    edited July 2017
  • Reply 22 of 23
    nhtnht Posts: 4,429member
    avon b7 said:
    tmay said:
    avon b7 said:
    tmay said:
    avon b7 said:
    This is only Google Play Android.

    What happens when all the other Android stores are added onto the Google Play results?

    https://techcrunch.com/2017/03/29/app-annie-android-to-top-ios-in-app-store-revenue-this-year/


    What happens is that today, the collective revenue of all of the Android Stores is still less than that of Apple. I'm speculating that after the release of Apple's iPhone 8, iOS 11, and all of those AR apps, Apple will still lead next year.

    Did you get your participation trophy today? 
    So, you reply to my post stating something as fact - today - and providing nothing factuaI to back it up and then less an hour later and, in the same thread, you take issue with a poster for not supporting his claims  with a link?

    A poster with just three posts under his belt and instead of giving him the benefit of the doubt you go on the offensive.

    I think today, all you can go by is some App Annie data (or from some similiar mechanism) so in reality you cannot have even the slightest idea of what the situation is today to base your statement on. However, if we accept App Annie as a viable indicator, the link I provided forecast that combined Android App store revenue would surpass the Apple App Store (and by a decent margin) this year. We are nearly in August and the year is winding down. Nothing much will happen between now and September. You don't think that the change could have happened already?

    The link also indicated that 75% of world app store revenue came from just five countries. If just one of those countries were to 'wobble' the general forecast would be impacted.

    Now, two of the five are the UK and China.

    The economic indicators for the UK this year (and going forward) are bleak (I'm being kind with that adjective) and China has been a tough sell for Apple this year with competitors pushing Apple down the sales ranking. Do you need links for those or can we say that these points are generally accepted?

    What impact could this have on Apple App Store revenues in 2017?

    Of course, we can't know but at least I'm painting a picture based on tangible information and joining the dots with logic few people could scoff at.

    I could even expand on that and say that a large part of app store revenues are attributable to games and subscriptions. Now, subscriptions are exactly the kind of thing that gets the chop when personal budgets constrict. Do you think that consumer optimism is at an all time high in the UK right now? And China? What impact will China Android sales have on Android app store metrics?

    Your personal forecast for iOS 11 and AR apps just amounts to wishful thinking today.

    No need to comment on your trophy comment.







    I speculated, in actual fact I used the word "speculating", that Apple would, because of iOS 11 and ARKit, have increased app sales later in the year that would make your App Annie prediction inaccurate. I stated nothing as a fact, and the App Annie link is as well a prediction that is not yet fact. But today, based only on your link, the iOS App Store still has greater revenue than all of the Android Stores combines. 

    When it happens that all of the combined Android App Stores exceed the revenue of the iOS App Store, then come by AI and post a factual link, and gloat. In the meantime, it hasn't happened, and more to the point, the original post was fully accurate comparing Google Play with the iOS App Store.

    As to the other poster; he has only complained and/or called out AI Members in his three posts, hasn't added anything to the conversation, and hasn't earned the right to be taken seriously. 
    You realise my link was from March and your post was about now?

    Have you seen anything to back up your statement that the Apple App Store is still (today) topping the revenue charts against the combined Android app stores?

    My reply was there on that point first. My post mentioned a forecast, a prediction (and from the same data source as the AI article) and Included the link. Your post stated that the forecast hadn't become reality yet.  How do you know? Do you have figures for today? If you have them, all I ask is that you post the link because that's what you are complaining about with the other poster. Shouldn't you be practicing what you preach? 
    The burden of proof that a forecast has become reality is on the organization and poster who makes it.  AppAnnie forecasts a significant growth in Chinese app spending from $19B to $31B.  A forecast target they have not supported in their quarterly market updates.

    Essentially they forecasted that the vast majority of revenue growth in China was going to Android and only a small amount to IOS.
    tmay
  • Reply 23 of 23
    anton zuykovanton zuykov Posts: 1,031member
    mubaili said:
    so iPhone users spent more money and more time playing games? I am not sure that is a good thing at all. Good for Apple and game developers for sure, but for consumers? I don't know.
    More people buying apps and games does not equate to people using those apps/games more.
    edited July 2017
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