Apple designing iPhones, iPads without Qualcomm modems after key testing software withheld...

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  • Reply 41 of 44
    k2kwk2kw Posts: 2,084member
    kesem said:
    As a Verizon customer I have been very happy with the Qualcomm chips.  They are far superior to Intel.  Every test shows that.  I expect Apple to use the best parts possible and I will be very upset if they don't continue to use Qualcomm chips in the future because of a stupid dispute over how much they pay for the chips.  For the first time ever i would consider switching to an Android phone.  I pay extra for Verizon because of the quality of the coverage.  If the iPhone has worse coverage than an Android phone I WILL LEAVE APPLE.
    Totally agree with you my old SE is on ATT and I have had many problems with call connections.   Got a  Verizon iPhone 7plus and it's much better.    The only reason I didn't try out a Pixel 2XL is because of their screen.   If Google get that right next year then I will try it out because SIRI sucks and the Google now sounds really useful in comparison.    Apple's 3rd in the AI raise as far as I am concerned behind Google and Amazon.   You just can't have the most expensive phone on the market and have third place software. (They should have got rid of eddy que a long time ago)
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  • Reply 42 of 44
    k2kwk2kw Posts: 2,084member
    d_2 said:
    kesem said:
    As a Verizon customer I have been very happy with the Qualcomm chips.  They are far superior to Intel.  Every test shows that.  I expect Apple to use the best parts possible and I will be very upset if they don't continue to use Qualcomm chips in the future because of a stupid dispute over how much they pay for the chips.  For the first time ever i would consider switching to an Android phone.  I pay extra for Verizon because of the quality of the coverage.  If the iPhone has worse coverage than an Android phone I WILL LEAVE APPLE.
    Bye !
    Apple fan-boys are just going to hate.
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  • Reply 43 of 44
    ksecksec Posts: 1,569member
    badmonk said:
    As someone who has actually worked with Qualcomm in the past, I can tell you that Qualcomm is a thoroughly evil company to work with.  You even HINT that you're looking at alternatives and they threaten to sue you into oblivion.  

    The idea that they are pulling test resources is not even unexpected-- they play MUCH harder ball than this usually, such as cutting off access to support engineers and documentation.  This has been their method of operation since the mid-90s.

    At the time, they were the only game in town for CDMA-- luckily there ARE alternatives now and if Apple DOES seek to get rid of Qualcomm there will be lawsuits.  That's just how Qualcomm operates.

    Another part of the problem is that the licensing agreement that Qualcomm requires is VERY predatory-- they don't just want a fee to use their chips, their fee is based on the cost of the ENTIRE PRODUCT.  That's one of the reasons why you haven't seen a cellular modem in the Macbooks-- Qualcomm would get a large fee based on the cost of a $2000-$3000 product, which makes even putting the chips in the device cost prohibitive.  This is totally unreasonable and unprecedented in the industry.

    This isn't just about money-- Qualcomm is a very difficult company to work with in all areas.
    thank you...i have often wondered why we don't see cellular MacBooks...this explains it.
    There is a cap. so no.
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  • Reply 44 of 44
    roakeroake Posts: 821member
    BREAKING NEWS - U.S. Robotics, long-time makers of the Courier Series V.Everything V.Everywhere, have upset the industry with the surprise announcement of a new standard, Z-modem.LTE, with additional protocols Z-modem.CDMA and Z-modem.GSM.  In a completely new approach to CDMA access, U.S. Robotics utilizes analog tower hops through the CMDA network onto on LTE backbone, eliminating virtually all dependence on IP held by Qualcomm, Inc.  Further shocking the mobile communications industry, U.S. Robotics has assured skeptical markets and investors that they now have the very solid investment support, "of one of the most powerful players in this industry."

    Reports just earlier this year indicated that parent company, UNICOM Systems was attempting to position itself for a buyout, but had no serious interest.  While no official change to financial guidance has been offered, shares were up over 90% in trading after market-close amidst rumors that Apple, Inc. has purchased a 15% stake in the company.

    Calls for comment to Qualcomm, Inc. were not immediately returned.

    At least one major blogger for WSJ.com opined that, if true, this Apple/U.S.Robotics deal could sound a death-knell for Qualcomm, Inc., and by extension considering Apple's reported stake in UNICOM Systems, could bode poorly for competing platforms who would either need to stay on a sinking ship, or pledge fealty to company partially owned by their chief competitor.  While the industry did not take quite as dire a view of Qualcomm, Inc's future if the rumors held true, it was clear that game had changed, Qualcomm, Inc. had found itself somewhere outside the playing field, likely being regulated to a chip foundry rather than an IP licensing corporation.

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