meh, happens every winter. Doesn't even have to be THAT cold, just using it outside below 5°C can cause it to switch off. Happened on my 5, 6S and on the 5S I'm using most recently.
We're (Scotland) expected to have a VERY cold winter this year so I expect the shutdowns to happen much more frequently.
These sorts of ball-drops -- even if minor -- are getting to be a tad annoying. One would think this sort of thing was basic quality control.
It’s good that Apple is quickly addressing things but I have friends and family that are quite annoyed at always seeing a red notification badge on the settings app.
This is why Apple shouldn’t design things in sunny California where it’s always 60-80 degrees. They should really test things in NY/PA where just Monday it was 80 degrees and tonight the local ski mountain is making snow...
I don’t think it’s a “bug” the “touch screen” senses the heat from your fingers that’s how it works. If the weather is too cold the. Your fingers get cold too. So I suspect it has to do with this. Apple just needs to adjust something related to the sensor in the phone I would guess. Probably how heat sensitive it is if I had to guess
No, touch screens work via capacitance... the electrical disruption of a plane caused by your finger. It’s likely that changes in temperature effect how that electrical change is measured and it could be that Apple had lowered the power to the touch screen or are not altering the power enough to accomodate atmospheric changes.
Which screen tech is better against much colder and much warmer temperature/weather ? LCD or OLED ? That is the Question !!
I would suspect that OLEDs are better in the cold. Most spec sheets on them that I have seen advertise a wider operating temperature range than LCDs, and that's without resorting to extended temperature range models that usually have significant compromises. LCDs have been around a lot longer and have a more thorough testing history so we know that they stop working once they get frozen. After all, the L in LCD stands for liquid. Liquids tend to become solids at their freezing points. It is possible to extend the freezing point of LCDs to much lower than 0C without using a battery-killing heater but that probably has a significant effect on other characteristics such as color accuracy -- and the iPhone has extremely good color accuracy. And let's not get into the misnomer of LED panel displays -- those are LCDs using LEDs as backlights.
I suspect that people will find that the color accuracy of the iPhone X will degrade more quickly than a comparable one that uses an LCD. Such is the nature of the OLED panel. After 10000 hours of usage people are going to notice a degradation. But that is a lot of hours on a cell phone.
These sorts of ball-drops -- even if minor -- are getting to be a tad annoying. One would think this sort of thing was basic quality control.
It’s good that Apple is quickly addressing things but I have friends and family that are quite annoyed at always seeing a red notification badge on the settings app.
Heavens! Well heck, we don’t want to annoy your relatives — no more software updates or fixes, guys! Shut it all down...Software is now frozen!
This is the same for all touchscreens I’ve ever used. For two of them, the BlackBerry Z10 and Z30, touch was crucial as there was no home button (sound familiar?). So it’s not new. But I’m glad Apple will do something about it as the X’s reputation (and presumably that of subsequent models) depends on it “just working”.
Samsung did at least try to solve this with the Galaxy Note 7 of course /
These sorts of ball-drops -- even if minor -- are getting to be a tad annoying. One would think this sort of thing was basic quality control.
Has nothing to do with dropping a ball. Has to do with electronics in the cold. Period. I can't think of consumer electronic device that is designed to work in below freezing temperatures.
Which screen tech is better against much colder and much warmer temperature/weather ? LCD or OLED ? That is the Question !!
I would suspect that OLEDs are better in the cold. Most spec sheets on them that I have seen advertise a wider operating temperature range than LCDs, and that's without resorting to extended temperature range models that usually have significant compromises. LCDs have been around a lot longer and have a more thorough testing history so we know that they stop working once they get frozen. After all, the L in LCD stands for liquid. Liquids tend to become solids at their freezing points. It is possible to extend the freezing point of LCDs to much lower than 0C without using a battery-killing heater but that probably has a significant effect on other characteristics such as color accuracy -- and the iPhone has extremely good color accuracy. And let's not get into the misnomer of LED panel displays -- those are LCDs using LEDs as backlights.
I suspect that people will find that the color accuracy of the iPhone X will degrade more quickly than a comparable one that uses an LCD. Such is the nature of the OLED panel. After 10000 hours of usage people are going to notice a degradation. But that is a lot of hours on a cell phone.
It may have nothing to do with the screen itself, but the underlying components and their operating conditions.
I was experiencing this issue all day in NYC yesterday. I thought it was a compatibility issue with apps that haven’t been updated. Turns out the one common factor was me going outside when attempting to open apps, a link, calendar event, etc. This was in chilly weather, but not below freezing. Sounds like a software fix increasing capacitance should do the trick!
Which screen tech is better against much colder and much warmer temperature/weather ? LCD or OLED ? That is the Question !!
I would suspect that OLEDs are better in the cold. Most spec sheets on them that I have seen advertise a wider operating temperature range than LCDs, and that's without resorting to extended temperature range models that usually have significant compromises. LCDs have been around a lot longer and have a more thorough testing history so we know that they stop working once they get frozen. After all, the L in LCD stands for liquid. Liquids tend to become solids at their freezing points. It is possible to extend the freezing point of LCDs to much lower than 0C without using a battery-killing heater but that probably has a significant effect on other characteristics such as color accuracy -- and the iPhone has extremely good color accuracy. And let's not get into the misnomer of LED panel displays -- those are LCDs using LEDs as backlights.
I suspect that people will find that the color accuracy of the iPhone X will degrade more quickly than a comparable one that uses an LCD. Such is the nature of the OLED panel. After 10000 hours of usage people are going to notice a degradation. But that is a lot of hours on a cell phone.
It may have nothing to do with the screen itself, but the underlying components and their operating conditions.
So maybe the "fix" Apple says is coming turns on Aux. Heat sooner?
This is nothing new - living in MN, my wife and I routinely have our iPhones go unresponsive and shut down if they get cold. Bring them inside and warm them up and they comeback to life. I think the processsor must be a reptile.
It's not so much the processor(s) as the touch screen response at low temps. (I'm a couple hours north of you, so even colder these days.)
These sorts of ball-drops -- even if minor -- are getting to be a tad annoying. One would think this sort of thing was basic quality control.
Have you ever read the spec sheet for, say, smart phones, not just Apple's?
There is a normal operating range listed, for example for the SE:
Environmental Requirements:
• Operating ambient temperature: 32° to 95° F (0° to 35° C)
• Nonoperating temperature: ‑4° to 113° F (‑20° to 45° C)
Currently here in the upper midwest, we're running about 30ºF below the specified ambient operating temperature. This doesn't just affect smart phones, digital cameras and other electronics is affected, too. You find ways to work around it, but expecting things to just work normally in the very cold isn't in the cards.
Just wait 'til February-ish, where we may be getting days another 30-40º colder.
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We're (Scotland) expected to have a VERY cold winter this year so I expect the shutdowns to happen much more frequently.
It’s good that Apple is quickly addressing things but I have friends and family that are quite annoyed at always seeing a red notification badge on the settings app.
I suspect that people will find that the color accuracy of the iPhone X will degrade more quickly than a comparable one that uses an LCD. Such is the nature of the OLED panel. After 10000 hours of usage people are going to notice a degradation. But that is a lot of hours on a cell phone.
It changes the desktop graphic to a really hot babe / guy of your choice
Kidding.....
There is a normal operating range listed, for example for the SE:
Currently here in the upper midwest, we're running about 30ºF below the specified ambient operating temperature. This doesn't
just affect smart phones, digital cameras and other electronics is affected, too. You find ways to work around it, but expecting
things to just work normally in the very cold isn't in the cards.
Just wait 'til February-ish, where we may be getting days another 30-40º colder.