From the graphics on the Apple UK site it looks like the RAM is socketed.
For as “accessible” as it is, it may as well be soldered. You’ll have to take out the entire logic board and fan assembly after removing the screen to be able to replace it.
Not the same at all. With one you can’t make a change, ever. With the other you can drop it off at the shop and have them do it. In my mind it’s on par with hard to remove spark plugs, except in the iMac’s case you’d only need to do it one time, if ever. So that makes it less of a hassle than an auto.
From the graphics on the Apple UK site it looks like the RAM is socketed.
For as “accessible” as it is, it may as well be soldered. You’ll have to take out the entire logic board and fan assembly after removing the screen to be able to replace it.
Yuk ... that's like having to remove the motor in a car just to change the oil filter.
Nope, because with a car you have to change the oil feature on a regular, ongoing basis. Not so with RAM.
If it's a desktop with a non-upgradeable video card it doesn't deserve a "Pro" moniker.
The iMac Pro looks interesting, but I'm waiting for the real Mac Pro. Thank god someone snapped them out of their obsession over thin to the detriment of everything else, even on desktops
If it's a desktop with a non-upgradeable video card it doesn't deserve a "Pro" moniker.
The iMac Pro looks interesting, but I'm waiting for the real Mac Pro. Thank god someone snapped them out of their obsession over thin to the detriment of everything else, even on desktops
Nobody cares what you think deserves a "Pro" moniker, especially Apple. Pretty sure I'm still using my aging MacBook Pro as a professional tool, and the one I owned before that — neither of which had an upgradeable video card.
As well as an underclocked Vega 56 and 64. As in, fairly well, but an awful use of 5000 dollars (more for the 64) just for that purpose when a 399 and 599 dollar add in card in any old desktop will out mine it.
You can see peak clock speed and therefore Gflops are down to 82% of a full Vega 64, and memory bandwidth (for equihash and other mining algorithms) is also at 83%. Being the Pro variant is part of that, but it's more than the wx9100 dropped the 64 silicon. Clearly they did that because Vegas full power consumption would eat too much of its 500 watt dissipation already.
...I've submitted feedback to Apple asking for a more affordable entry config (ram and drive, like the current pro) as well as ideally a silver option to match all the other accessories... I guess we'll know soon enough...
I'm confused. Aren't you describing the current iMacs? Entry config, silver to match other accessories... that's just an iMac, which we already have. $5K for the entry config of the iMac Pro is a lot of money but relatively speaking it's not a lot considering what you're getting.
Entry level Mac Pro (cylinder) specs...
Unless I'm mistaken the current 4.2 5K iMac is limited to 4 cores, vs 8, 10 or 18, and the Vega graphics & VRAM options may be more important to some ?
Are 8 cores a benefit that a 12/256, 16/256, 16/512 or 16/2TB config could still enjoy, saving oh I don't know maybe another 1k, and getting the cost under $4k (US) ?
Apple currently charges: $400 for a 16GB > 32GB ram $600 for 2TB FD > 1TB SSD
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Not the same at all. With one you can’t make a change, ever. With the other you can drop it off at the shop and have them do it. In my mind it’s on par with hard to remove spark plugs, except in the iMac’s case you’d only need to do it one time, if ever. So that makes it less of a hassle than an auto.
Nope, because with a car you have to change the oil feature on a regular, ongoing basis. Not so with RAM.
The iMac Pro looks interesting, but I'm waiting for the real Mac Pro. Thank god someone snapped them out of their obsession over thin to the detriment of everything else, even on desktops
As well as an underclocked Vega 56 and 64. As in, fairly well, but an awful use of 5000 dollars (more for the 64) just for that purpose when a 399 and 599 dollar add in card in any old desktop will out mine it.
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2871/radeon-rx-vega-64
vs
https://www.apple.com/ca/imac-pro/
You can see peak clock speed and therefore Gflops are down to 82% of a full Vega 64, and memory bandwidth (for equihash and other mining algorithms) is also at 83%. Being the Pro variant is part of that, but it's more than the wx9100 dropped the 64 silicon. Clearly they did that because Vegas full power consumption would eat too much of its 500 watt dissipation already.
Unless I'm mistaken the current 4.2 5K iMac is limited to 4 cores,
vs 8, 10 or 18, and the Vega graphics & VRAM options may be more important to some ?
Are 8 cores a benefit that a 12/256, 16/256, 16/512 or 16/2TB config could still enjoy,
saving oh I don't know maybe another 1k, and getting the cost under $4k (US) ?
Apple currently charges:
$400 for a 16GB > 32GB ram
$600 for 2TB FD > 1TB SSD
...and will the higher spec components be worth even more than current increments?
https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/imac-vesa?product=Z0TU&step=config
I tend to buy base configs and upgrade as needed,
again flexibility being helpful, as well as non OEM pricing...