Because swiping up alway returns you to the home screen.
And Apple would like folk to stop killing apps when there’s no need to, so they’ve buried the gesture.
In that case better to eliminate the option altogether but, as the article states, sometimes it is needed to get rid of a glitch.
A far better option would be to simply to use FaceID. Look at an app sternly or use gurning and have the system bring up the switcher . I am only half joking.
This article is very very misleading, the average user has no way of knowing if an app in background is using machine cycles and thus wasting battery!!!
Hardly a month goes by when we dont here about a misbehaving app draining peoples battery. It happens so the ability to exit apps is very important. So why make this difficult?
By the wAy, yes i understand how the majority of the apps out there are suppose to suspend. Thankfully most do. However it is foolish to believe all do or that most users know which is which.
This desire to push the agenda that closeing apps doesnt solve issues is a bit phony. It shouldnt be a normal course of action but there are plenty of reasons to exit apps.
Hardly a month? Which apps? I know Facebook did something weird a year or two ago. And I know Youtube had a bug. What others?
But thankfully iOS already provides the proper solution to knowing whether an app is misbehaving -- Settings > Battery. doesn't get any easier.
StrangeDays said: Because it's too easy to accidentally do so, killing your app's session. I've done this even on the much larger iPad which doesn't require the red-x mode. Requiring you to tap-and-hold prior to swipe-ups confirms intent to kill processes.
Oh my gosh, we agree on something.
ihatescreennames said: If the rumors are true that the home button is going away on all devices then I take this as a transition period. Currently there are different implementations on different iPhones but perhaps in 2 years that will no longer be the case.
Yea, I agree that this is probably the strategy... that it will just work itself out over time. It was inconsistent before the iPhone X though. When my home button was going bad on my iPod touch, I wished for a swipe gesture that I was used to from my iPad. Swipe gestures are nice, but my issues are inconsistency and their being the *only* option. It's a bit like the right-click mouse thing. I love it, use it all day long... but I'm glad Apple used alternatives so it wasn't required.
StrangeDays said: I suspect what you really mean is you want to kill all apps all the time, which as noted is needless and counter-productive.
I kill apps all the time, but it isn't counter-productive at all. That said, I think I can deal with this (when it eventually gets to an iPhone I own). I don't think this would be nearly as irritating as having to go into settings instead of Control Center to turn off WiFi.
StrangeDays said: There's no "even if" question about it. It is true, and has always been true. Your ignorance to how iOS works doesn't invalidate anything.
Just use [iOS multitasking] as designed, and you’ll be happy. No need to ever quit apps.
If you're using a few apps back & forth constantly, then home-bar-swiping is the way to go. If you need to go back to an app you haven't used in a long time and don't know how far back it is, it's way faster to hit the home screen and mid-swipe-down to activate search and either find it on the Siri App Suggestions list, or key in a letter or two of its name.
You guys are trying to solve problems which don't exist. or, "Who moved my cheese!!"
Yes, I've read all those articles and more, and counter-point articles. It's one of those things that's kinda-sorta true in a general way, but with exceptions. Makes great marketing speak though, and for the average user, it probably won't hurt them too much to follow it (unless they use YouTube... as no one uses that, right?).
But, as I said, there are productivity, non-technical reasons for doing so. It's quicker for me to just keep open apps cleaned up than messing with search and stuff like that. I think I use search on my iPhone like 2 or 3 times per year when an app I know I have is burried in some folder. Other than that, I pretty much hate Apple's search (whether iOS, macOS, or cloud).
And, as a 30+ year IT type who's been dealing with moved-cheese for my whole career... no, that's not the issue.
Because swiping up alway returns you to the home screen.
And Apple would like folk to stop killing apps when there’s no need to, so they’ve buried the gesture.
Agreed. I‘m for anything that makes force-quitting apps harder to do; it’s completely unnecessary almost all of the time.
However, when I picked up my iPhone X at the Apple Store, the rep there demonstrated this gesture to me as part of the demonstration, describing it simply as how to “close an app”. He was clearly going through some sort of script. This suggests that even within Apple, there’s still a strong belief that force-quitting is an important part of the iOS experience.
I have an iPhoneX and this gesture SUCKS. I understand they want to reserve swipe up to go back to the home screen, but it’s really inconvenient when you’re using it on a daily basis. It requires much more fine grained control of your fingers and it’s slower.
Apple is not burying the gesture (or shouldn’t). It’s still smart to close apps in some cases, eg GPS navigation apps that drain the battery for no reason.
However I understand there is no easy solution here.
Because swiping up alway returns you to the home screen.
And Apple would like folk to stop killing apps when there’s no need to, so they’ve buried the gesture.
He was clearly going through some sort of script. This suggests that even within Apple, there’s still a strong belief that force-quitting is an important part of the iOS experience.
It’s likely that he had his own script to go by, a “library” of talking points he liked to use. You’re right that there are several Apple Store employees who have a strong belief about force-quitting, but they usually start their employment at Apple already possessing that belief and have a hard time letting it go. I worked with one guy who insisted that even if you shut down an iPhone and then power it back on the apps listed in the FAS were shortening battery life. He was a Family Room Specialist and would tell customers that bogus information on a regular basis. He was spoken to about that several times but kept on going.
It is absolutely neccessary to close certain apps. This function needs to be improved! I bet next IOS will have a faster way to close apps again.
Which is why there is a means to do so today. It doesn't require improving because it's completely easy to do so. I suspect what you really mean is you want to kill all apps all the time, which as noted is needless and counter-productive. Seems to be a practice from Android and the knockoffs.
No, I just want to swipe up and close certain apps. You do not understand how we use iPhones for work, we want the old function back and I am sure Apple will bring it back quickly one way or the other. It's not up to you to determine was in counter-productive in my line of work!
mr lizard said: However, when I picked up my iPhone X at the Apple Store, the rep there demonstrated this gesture to me as part of the demonstration, describing it simply as how to “close an app”. He was clearly going through some sort of script. This suggests that even within Apple, there’s still a strong belief that force-quitting is an important part of the iOS experience.
Yea, I don't think of it as force-quitting. It's more like stopping potentially unnecessary operation/communication and decluttering.
smiffy31 said: without the home button you can simply swipe the home bar back and forth directly from one app to the other, no need to invoke the app switcher, Even easier than using the home button, but gestures are impratical aparently.
But, if you're talking Apple's advice and not quitting... you might have 40 apps to flip through trying to find the one you're after. At least when you go into multitasking mode, you can find what you're looking for more easily.
As I said in another post, *even if* it were actually true that quitting iOS apps is no longer necessary for technical reasons, you'd still want to do it for practical ones.
There's no "even if" question about it. It is true, and has always been true. Your ignorance to how iOS works doesn't invalidate anything.
Just use [iOS multitasking] as designed, and you’ll be happy. No need to ever quit apps.
If you're using a few apps back & forth constantly, then home-bar-swiping is the way to go. If you need to go back to an app you haven't used in a long time and don't know how far back it is, it's way faster to hit the home screen and mid-swipe-down to activate search and either find it on the Siri App Suggestions list, or key in a letter or two of its name.
You guys are trying to solve problems which don't exist. or, "Who moved my cheese!!"
I have an easier way to task switch and force close.
Instead of the somewhat awkward initial swipe up, you can actually just swipe right on the "Home Bar". This will immediately jump to task switching apps full screen, then slide up and hold briefly and the close buttons appear on all tasks. Now you just flick apps up and they are closed.
This is really fast and easy, going back to a home button is not foreign to me when using my iPad etc.
Because swiping up alway returns you to the home screen.
And Apple would like folk to stop killing apps when there’s no need to, so they’ve buried the gesture.
Perhaps you haven't used to much, but the normal swiping motion from the bottom up -- which is what you use for every app to get to the home screen -- does the same thing.
Moreover, if Apple's offering me a functionality (in this instance, whether to "kill" an app), it is my choice whether use it or not. Apple's design job is to make it easy for the user to make that choice.
This just sounds like yet more complication, less intuitiveness, and more opportunity for bullies on forums to be dismissive of legit complaints. All the justification by users desperate to appear sophisticated and unbothered by anything (because that's how you act cool on the internet). The arrogance of telling others how they should do their work, and the blithe acceptance of Apple propaganda about how unnecessary it is to quit apps.
It's like a pageant to showcase some kind of superiority over the users who are sick of arbitrarily-moved cheese, which is demanded by an industry that hates consistency, due to the industry's pathological need to regularly rearrange things so it can repeatedly sell the same product to the same people every year.
Such short memories. Such willingness to conform to the party line.
How long before Apple abandons this setup for something else supposedly "superior"? The actual improvements have once again slowed to the pace of "fractional and debatable". Yet, Apple continues benefitting from consumers willing to defend it against any criticism, just because 2007 to 2012 was the best time ever for this business (thanks to a configuration of Apple that no longer exists today).
I have adopted and now used to of iPhone X gestures a lot more quickly than previous generations of iPhone. I now feel more conformable. So much so every time I try to use my wife's iPhone 8 Plus, I acknowledge right away that iPhone X gestures are way more practical, easy and quicker.
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But thankfully iOS already provides the proper solution to knowing whether an app is misbehaving -- Settings > Battery. doesn't get any easier.
Yea, I agree that this is probably the strategy... that it will just work itself out over time. It was inconsistent before the iPhone X though. When my home button was going bad on my iPod touch, I wished for a swipe gesture that I was used to from my iPad. Swipe gestures are nice, but my issues are inconsistency and their being the *only* option. It's a bit like the right-click mouse thing. I love it, use it all day long... but I'm glad Apple used alternatives so it wasn't required.
I kill apps all the time, but it isn't counter-productive at all. That said, I think I can deal with this (when it eventually gets to an iPhone I own). I don't think this would be nearly as irritating as having to go into settings instead of Control Center to turn off WiFi.
But, as I said, there are productivity, non-technical reasons for doing so. It's quicker for me to just keep open apps cleaned up than messing with search and stuff like that. I think I use search on my iPhone like 2 or 3 times per year when an app I know I have is burried in some folder. Other than that, I pretty much hate Apple's search (whether iOS, macOS, or cloud).
And, as a 30+ year IT type who's been dealing with moved-cheese for my whole career... no, that's not the issue.
However, when I picked up my iPhone X at the Apple Store, the rep there demonstrated this gesture to me as part of the demonstration, describing it simply as how to “close an app”. He was clearly going through some sort of script. This suggests that even within Apple, there’s still a strong belief that force-quitting is an important part of the iOS experience.
Apple is not burying the gesture (or shouldn’t). It’s still smart to close apps in some cases, eg GPS navigation apps that drain the battery for no reason.
However I understand there is no easy solution here.
Instead of the somewhat awkward initial swipe up, you can actually just swipe right on the "Home Bar". This will immediately jump to task switching apps full screen, then slide up and hold briefly and the close buttons appear on all tasks. Now you just flick apps up and they are closed.
This is really fast and easy, going back to a home button is not foreign to me when using my iPad etc.
Moreover, if Apple's offering me a functionality (in this instance, whether to "kill" an app), it is my choice whether use it or not. Apple's design job is to make it easy for the user to make that choice.
It's like a pageant to showcase some kind of superiority over the users who are sick of arbitrarily-moved cheese, which is demanded by an industry that hates consistency, due to the industry's pathological need to regularly rearrange things so it can repeatedly sell the same product to the same people every year.
Such short memories. Such willingness to conform to the party line.
How long before Apple abandons this setup for something else supposedly "superior"? The actual improvements have once again slowed to the pace of "fractional and debatable". Yet, Apple continues benefitting from consumers willing to defend it against any criticism, just because 2007 to 2012 was the best time ever for this business (thanks to a configuration of Apple that no longer exists today).