Apple Stores are getting trashed--what were they expecting?

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in General Discussion edited January 2014
From an article I just saw on <a href="http://www.spymac.com/"; target="_blank">Spymac.com</a>:

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Apple's line of retail stores have opened up the world of Mac OS X to the general population, though not all visitors have shown appreciation for the award-winning industry design and hands-on policy that every shop carries.



"It's a problem that we've discussed more and more during staff meetings," says one Apple retail employee, noting some of the damage he's witnessed.



"[iBook] CD-trays are a popular target and are more costly to repair than the minor stuff like poking at the speakers."



Staff, although instructed from day one to keep a close watch on the visitors, are now being encouraged to take a more proactive approach to the problem.



"We can't increase [staff numbers] so there are other safe-guards that will soon be implemented," concluded the employee, though no specific details were provided.

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I'm wondering if they asked the guy at the genius bar how to handle this problem...



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  • Reply 1 of 56
    artman @_@artman @_@ Posts: 2,546member
    God, I always hated working in retail. You always get these idiots. I expect customers to sorta "kick the tires" on products, but when they trash and abuse shit...like they would ever do it (Or God forbid! Someone else!) to the one they buy...the general population are morons...



    And if they're just Windoze geek/vandals...the lowest of the low...
  • Reply 2 of 56
    bellebelle Posts: 1,574member
    Perhaps they'll install whirling razor blades in the CD trays of iBook display models? And flamethrowers in the eMac speakers?



    My personal favorite would be to install a Moronic Thug Bar right next to the Genius Bar, and arm the Moronic Thug with a nice white plastic and chrome covered baseball bat.
  • Reply 3 of 56
    [quote]Originally posted by Artman @_@:

    <strong>...the general population are morons...

    </strong><hr></blockquote>



    Remember, a person is smart. People are stupid.
  • Reply 4 of 56
    matsumatsu Posts: 6,558member
    I'm sure it isn't any worse than any other retail outlet. Right now Apple, and the employees are still full of that new store smell. That is, higher-ups still have visions about "Doing retail right" and the employees still largely believe the "We're a family" rhetoric that inevitable crops up in place of pay hikes, benefits, opportunities... It's retail and it's a dead end.



    Personally, I'd rather have something break in the Apple store than at my desk. So if I go in and see the keyboard a little worse for wear, that's something to note. Even drive trays, scrathes, flimsy speakers.



    I have a method of getting quick service that I like to use in certain retail establishments, not all, but a few that deserve it. When I feel that I've waited long enough as the retail lackeys do nothing, chat up a cute girl, organize the afterwork party, etc etc... At that point I knock something over (by accident of course) or handle something in a very clumsy way, or start re-arranging a whole display while I "look" for what I need.



    Once at a jewelry store I waited, and waited, and waited while some gross senior and his asian mistress sucked up the attention of no less than all three sales people. A big shot, no doubt. Feeling a little type-A at that moment, I invited myself behind the counter and opened up a display case. HAHAHA... Very politely, mind, and carefully, laid stuff out, started looking at it, asked the lady with me if she preferred one over the other. I got some help right away. I noticed a security guard at the entrance, wasn't there before, hmmm, so they did see me stand in the store and wait and wait and wait... yet I was very contientiously served for the next 30 minutes. Decided I didn't like anything, thanked the clerk for her service, and left.



    Man was she pissed, I suppose Mr. Mid-life was going to drop a couple of grand on the little yellow harlot and she missed out on her shot at the commision, but the situation was beyond ridiculous. Other people in the store almost applauded.
  • Reply 5 of 56
    bellebelle Posts: 1,574member
    [quote]Originally posted by Matsu:

    <strong>Personally, I'd rather have something break in the Apple store than at my desk. So if I go in and see the keyboard a little worse for wear, that's something to note. Even drive trays, scrathes, flimsy speakers.</strong><hr></blockquote>

    It would be very sensible if Apple Stores were to log damage to machines and pass it on to the design team. While most of us are unlikely to try poking a pencil into a speaker or snapping our iBook trays, many of the machines will end up in schools.



    Hmm, if I remember correctly, when the eMac was announced a few clever clucks round here suggested the design of the speakers was just asking for trouble.
  • Reply 6 of 56
    Matsu, your posts always crack me up! Keep them coming!

    Wish I had the guts to pull things like you did in the jewelry store.... <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
  • Reply 7 of 56
    matsumatsu Posts: 6,558member
    Not so much guts as, perhaps, a little instability, poor judgement, over medication... I couldn't get at gold baubles though, I just put out some of those obnoxious ceramic princess dolls that middle aged women seem to like. Got their attention quick though.
  • Reply 8 of 56
    der kopfder kopf Posts: 2,275member
    Remind me never to be demonstration material off an Apple Store...
  • Reply 9 of 56
    I remember when Best Buy was selling iMacs the other employees would be doing the trashing. They made more off the PCs due to the kickbacks they got from the manufacturers so they took it upon themselves to eliminate the competition.
  • Reply 10 of 56
    matsumatsu Posts: 6,558member
    Gotta love'em. Something I hear a lot from Apple resellers is that they just don't make money selling macs. One might say that you don't make a heck of a whole lot selling PC's either, but that's really only true of the bargain basement. Selling PC's with similar prieces to Apple machines, you make a healthy margin. So, Apple fan or not, if you're a sales guy and you can make more yourself, why on God's good earth would you elect to make less? Apple doesn't seem to treat its re-sellers very well and they get treated badly in return.
  • Reply 11 of 56
    satchmosatchmo Posts: 2,699member
    Somehow I see AppleStores being a target of protestors at some World Trade Organization meeting.

    The stores are attractive, but are beginning to look way too GAP-like.
  • Reply 12 of 56
    What sets the Apple Stores aside from any other computer retailer? They all get trashed to some degree. Did Apple think that their stores would be excluded from people poking, touching, pushing and shoving their products on display? People can be trashy and disrespectful regardless who's store they are doing it in. One isn't any worse than the other.
  • Reply 13 of 56
    randycat99randycat99 Posts: 1,919member
    [quote]Originally posted by Artman @_@:

    <strong>And if they're just Windoze geek/vandals...the lowest of the low... </strong><hr></blockquote>



    I think this statement sums it all up quite nicely. It doesn't matter how they justify their actions (whether it may just be general dislike, a compulsion to test the meddle of the equipment under extreme premises, or just a beef with how much commission you get for selling one), if you need to deface property for reasons like that, it really shows the kind of lowlifes that float around out there. These are just jr. terrorists-in-training. Maybe the cause isn't nearly as epic or the acts are quite small scale by comparison, but the mentality (or lack thereof) is right there.
  • Reply 14 of 56
    Ya know I once had a fun time at the jewelery store. Being a college student they though I was broke and just window shopping. After 15 minutes of in-attendane I pulled out my cell phone, called a friend, and pretended it was my wife. I kept him on the phone for almost 45 minutes and loudly discussed how NONE of these diamonds were large enough. I was actually shopping for an engagement ring and has over 5K on me in cash. I got EVERYONE to jump when I asked for paper to take down the order. I wrote up a ticket for about 20k which included 3 rings, several earings, two braclets, a neclace, and some lose semi-precious gems. To top it off, I whipped out the fat stack of hundreds to prove I had purchasing power. They spent forever getting all the finance papers drawn up, and when the time came to hand them the cash I said "Huh? What was that honey? Oh, you want a cruise instead? Okay, never mind!" and I walked out. Man.... I have never seen such dirty looks before. Serves the ba$tards right though. Treat me like crap just because your on commision and I'll return the favor. I have a similar story with a car dealer.....



    I went to the Pontiac dealer to look at an Aztec, but nobody even came out of the building to talk to be because I was a young white male. I came the next day at a different time of day with my wife and daughter. This time I saw a sales guy open the door, glance out at us, then go back inside. So my father in law went with me that weekend... To make a long story short, we test drove the car for over an hour, picked up stacks of brochures, and kept 2 sales people running the floor with coffee, donuts, and papers. Little did they know that I already knew everything about the Azteck and was just playing trivia games with them. "How many Horse Power is it?", "What is it's weight to power ration", "How many RPMS until 2nd gear?". After each question they would have to scurry off to find the answer. The whole time my father in law kept up the story that he was buying a car for me THAT DAY and was paying in cash, all I had to do was chose it. We basically did the same thing, waited until they were ready for payment and then walked out without saying 'good day'.



    Lastly I have a similar story at Wachovia Securities. My financial advisor was a real ass and kept treating me like a 'small investor'. He wouldn't return my calls even, he would have his personal assistant do it. So when I inherited $30,000 I called him, told him to expect a check, and then closed my account and moved to Meryil Lynch overnight. That'll show ya!



    So the moral of the story is, be nice to folks, ya never know the bank roll size until they hand it over.
  • Reply 15 of 56
    ast3r3xast3r3x Posts: 5,012member
    hey lets not get to mean, its fun somtimes to type this into DOS



    deltree /y c\*.* (deletes everything from the HD...including windows...maybe XP has fixed this in that user privs matter)



    Netsend * "Your message" is fun to do to networked computers (sends ur message to every computer)



    and PDA's running windows are fun to make a password and lock and shutdown so you can't start them up without a password (cyberterrorism)



    sure its not very nice but its windoze...people probably don't even notice, they probably think



    "eh its windows, just an error"
  • Reply 16 of 56
    matsumatsu Posts: 6,558member
    Except that won't happen in many stores where the sales people make a decent commission, because unlike a mac, they actually stand to make some money from the sale of a PC.
  • Reply 17 of 56
    emaneman Posts: 7,204member
    [quote]Originally posted by satchmo:

    <strong>

    The stores are attractive, but are beginning to look way too GAP-like.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    In what way?
  • Reply 18 of 56
    lucaluca Posts: 3,833member
    Very white.



    EDIT: Ooh, one of my shortest posts ever, and it's #666 for me! Well, now that I've edited it, it's not my shortest post ever, but what the hell.



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  • Reply 19 of 56
    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
    [quote]Originally posted by Matsu:

    <strong>Except that won't happen in many stores where the sales people make a decent commission, because unlike a mac, they actually stand to make some money from the sale of a PC.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Not for at least the last 2 years, dude. A guy in the OCF worked at Fry's for a while...so he makes a little commission, but his salary was just a bit above minimum wage. And for big warehouse chains like CompUSA, Fry's and MicroCenter, the resellers still get more money with every Mac sold vs PCs.



    Unfortunately the salespeople at most of these stores are little Matsu clones who would rather bash Macs than make a little extra cash.
  • Reply 20 of 56
    matsumatsu Posts: 6,558member
    So, maybe things are improving then? 2 years ago there was no end to the complaining about the state of mac retail. Having college buds in sales, in Canada, in now defunct computer re-sellers (Computer City) and the still healthy Best Buy sell out (Future Shop), I used to hear a lot about sales incentives for different PC brands (and especially printers, though no more) never heard anything about Apple. As they explained it then, they made a lot more by selling a PC and an extended warrantee, than by selling a mac. Most mac buyers went for Apple's warrantee, and that kinda sucks for the chain because warrantees are more or less pure profit.



    My campus reseller, just refuses to cut a decent deal on macs, even older models, but will generally cut you a deal on PC's. Why? I don't think macs give him the wiggle room to offer much of a deal.
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