Kuo: Samsung Galaxy Note 9 unlikely to feature under-display fingerprint recognition

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in General Discussion edited March 9
Though previous rumor and speculation pegged Samsung to incorporate cutting edge under-display fingerprint recognition technology in its upcoming Galaxy Note 9, KGI analyst Ming-Chi Kuo now believes the feature will not be ready in time for an expected release later this year.


Samsung's recently released Galaxy S9.


In a note to investors on Thursday, seen by AppleInsider, Kuo says Samsung will most likely put the anticipated feature on ice as both ultrasonic and optical solutions do not meet the company's standards.

"According to our understanding of the technologies, under-display fingerprint solutions may currently have many technical issues (e.g. screen protectors and different environments affecting recognition rates and power-consumption)," Kuo writes.

Still, Kuo remains upbeat on the specialized biometric solution, saying the technology is integral for full-screen handset designs.

Contrary to Apple's views, Kuo does not see facial recognition as a suitable replacement for fingerprint-based authentication methods. When Apple introduced Face ID with iPhone X, critics voiced similar concerns about security and potential spoofing.

Apple claims Face ID is more accurate, and thus safer, in comparison to legacy Touch ID systems. Specifically, the company says the chances of a random person unlocking an iPhone X with its depth-sensing, 3D-mapping biometric security feature enabled is one in a million. That compares to a 1 in 50,000 false positive chance for Touch ID, according to an Apple white paper published last year.

Those figures have not dissuaded security experts from attempting to fool Face ID. In November, shortly after iPhone X launched, a Vietnamese firm successfully unlocked an iPhone X using a relatively elaborate mask made from a 3D-printed frame covered in makeup, a silicone nose, 2D images and a large "specially processed" area.

The supposed cancellation of Samsung's under-display solution creates uncertainty over the technology's commercialization, Kuo says. As it stands, the analyst does not expect to see mass market adoption of the tech until the first half of 2019, at the earliest.

Apple was also rumored to incorporate some form of under-glass Touch ID with iPhone X, but the company purportedly nixed those plans in favor of Face ID.

For its part, Apple went on record as saying an embedded Touch ID solution was never an option for iPhone X. In an October interview, SVP of Hardware Engineering Dan Riccio dismissed rumors of an under-glass Touch ID system, saying the company was "all-in" on Face ID after seeing its potential.

"So we spent no time looking at fingerprints on the back or through the glass or on the side, because if we did those things -- which would be a last-minute change -- they would be a distraction relative to enabling the more important thing that we were trying to achieve -- which was Face ID done in a high-quality way," Riccio said at the time.

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  • Reply 1 of 7
    Rayz2016Rayz2016 Posts: 3,776member

    In a note to investors on Thursday, seen by AppleInsider, Kuo says Samsung will most likely put the anticipated feature on ice as both ultrasonic and optical solutions do not meet the company's standards.

    Heh. Now we know he’s making up this crap. 

    This is a company that thinks it’s okay to fit potentially harmful iris tech on their phones as long as they warn users before they use it. 

    edited March 9 racerhomie3TheUnusual6watto_cobra
  • Reply 2 of 7

    In a note to investors on Thursday, seen by AppleInsider, Kuo says Samsung will most likely put the anticipated feature on ice as both ultrasonic and optical solutions do not meet the company's standards.
    This is the most surprising thing about the whole article - that Samsung has standards!
    racerhomie3TheUnusual6repressthiswatto_cobra
  • Reply 3 of 7
    TheUnusual6TheUnusual6 Posts: 7unconfirmed, member
    If Apple had put it in iPhone X, Samsung wouldve put it in s9 without any second thoughts even if the technology is rudimentary. Reminds me of the Rudimentary FS in galaxy phones when Apple came up with Touch ID in 5S. Not to mention the painful AR emoji.
    racerhomie3numenoreanrepressthiswatto_cobra
  • Reply 4 of 7
    StrangeDaysStrangeDays Posts: 4,915member
    oh nos! how will the fandroids continue to ding apple for not doing this!?
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 5 of 7
    chasmchasm Posts: 627member
    Gee, I wonder why Apple allegedly abandoned efforts to put Touch ID under the screen and went with Face ID?

    Oh wait ... maybe that it wouldn't be ready for nearly two years ...

    Once again, Apple's bet proves successful, while everyone else waits and fills the gap with mediocre alternatives ...
  • Reply 6 of 7
    fordeefordee Posts: 13member
    "Contrary to Apple's views, Kuo does not see facial recognition as a suitable replacement for fingerprint-based authentication methods." Who cares what Kuo thinks? Nobody listens to Kuo for his opinion.
    edited March 14
  • Reply 7 of 7
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 29,344member
    fordee said:
    "Contrary to Apple's views, Kuo does not see facial recognition as a suitable replacement for fingerprint-based authentication methods." Who cares what Kuo thinks? Nobody listens to Kuo for his opinion.
    Kuo has made the transition from Apple analyst to science-fiction author.
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