Uber unlikely to blame for self-driving car fatality, says police chief

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  • Reply 41 of 47
    Solisoli Posts: 10,038member
    AI_lias said:
    Whoa, after seeing the video, seems like a big failure of the sensors. This lady was right in front, and no braking at all, it seems. Autonomous cars have a ways to go before they'll be mainstream.
    I’d say that last sentence has nothing to do with your assessment of the crash.

    For example, this would also be true if, say, a car prevented injury that a human couldn’t:

    Whoa, after seeing the video, seems like a big win for autonomous driving. The guy was looking at his console when she stepped out, which means her life was saved by the car’s system. Autonomous cars have a ways to go before they'll be mainstream.”




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  • Reply 42 of 47
    tmaytmay Posts: 6,470member
    Soli said:
    AI_lias said:
    Whoa, after seeing the video, seems like a big failure of the sensors. This lady was right in front, and no braking at all, it seems. Autonomous cars have a ways to go before they'll be mainstream.
    I’d say that last sentence has nothing to do with your assessment of the crash.

    For example, this would also be true if, say, a car prevented injury that a human couldn’t:

    “Whoa, after seeing the video, seems like a big win for autonomous driving. The guy was looking at his console when she stepped out, which means her life was saved by the car’s system. Autonomous cars have a ways to go before they'll be mainstream.”




    http://www.thedrive.com/opinion/19504/disgraceful-dashcam-video-proves-uber-is-the-theranos-of-self-driving
    gatorguy
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  • Reply 43 of 47
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,771member
    tmay said:
    Soli said:
    AI_lias said:
    Whoa, after seeing the video, seems like a big failure of the sensors. This lady was right in front, and no braking at all, it seems. Autonomous cars have a ways to go before they'll be mainstream.
    I’d say that last sentence has nothing to do with your assessment of the crash.

    For example, this would also be true if, say, a car prevented injury that a human couldn’t:

    “Whoa, after seeing the video, seems like a big win for autonomous driving. The guy was looking at his console when she stepped out, which means her life was saved by the car’s system. Autonomous cars have a ways to go before they'll be mainstream.”




    http://www.thedrive.com/opinion/19504/disgraceful-dashcam-video-proves-uber-is-the-theranos-of-self-driving
    Another good link TMay!

    I like his suggestion at the end of his piece too. ;)
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  • Reply 44 of 47
    Solisoli Posts: 10,038member
    tmay said:
    Soli said:
    AI_lias said:
    Whoa, after seeing the video, seems like a big failure of the sensors. This lady was right in front, and no braking at all, it seems. Autonomous cars have a ways to go before they'll be mainstream.
    I’d say that last sentence has nothing to do with your assessment of the crash.

    For example, this would also be true if, say, a car prevented injury that a human couldn’t:

    “Whoa, after seeing the video, seems like a big win for autonomous driving. The guy was looking at his console when she stepped out, which means her life was saved by the car’s system. Autonomous cars have a ways to go before they'll be mainstream.”
    http://www.thedrive.com/opinion/19504/disgraceful-dashcam-video-proves-uber-is-the-theranos-of-self-driving
    I have no idea what that has to do with anything I said.
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  • Reply 45 of 47
    tmaytmay Posts: 6,470member
    Soli said:
    tmay said:
    Soli said:
    AI_lias said:
    Whoa, after seeing the video, seems like a big failure of the sensors. This lady was right in front, and no braking at all, it seems. Autonomous cars have a ways to go before they'll be mainstream.
    I’d say that last sentence has nothing to do with your assessment of the crash.

    For example, this would also be true if, say, a car prevented injury that a human couldn’t:

    “Whoa, after seeing the video, seems like a big win for autonomous driving. The guy was looking at his console when she stepped out, which means her life was saved by the car’s system. Autonomous cars have a ways to go before they'll be mainstream.”
    http://www.thedrive.com/opinion/19504/disgraceful-dashcam-video-proves-uber-is-the-theranos-of-self-driving
    I have no idea what that has to do with anything I said.
    That's okay.

    I didn't have a clue what your point was either.
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  • Reply 46 of 47
    Solisoli Posts: 10,038member
    tmay said:
    Soli said:
    tmay said:
    Soli said:
    AI_lias said:
    Whoa, after seeing the video, seems like a big failure of the sensors. This lady was right in front, and no braking at all, it seems. Autonomous cars have a ways to go before they'll be mainstream.
    I’d say that last sentence has nothing to do with your assessment of the crash.

    For example, this would also be true if, say, a car prevented injury that a human couldn’t:

    “Whoa, after seeing the video, seems like a big win for autonomous driving. The guy was looking at his console when she stepped out, which means her life was saved by the car’s system. Autonomous cars have a ways to go before they'll be mainstream.”
    http://www.thedrive.com/opinion/19504/disgraceful-dashcam-video-proves-uber-is-the-theranos-of-self-driving
    I have no idea what that has to do with anything I said.
    That's okay.

    I didn't have a clue what your point was either.
    1) If you had no clue then why would you post a link with no context or follow up question?

    2) What's hard to understand that stating that "autonomous cars have a ways to go before they'll be mainstream" regardless as to whether they're currently better or worse than human drivers in preventing accidents?
    edited March 2018
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  • Reply 47 of 47
    tmaytmay Posts: 6,470member
    gatorguy said:
    tmay said:
    Soli said:
    AI_lias said:
    Whoa, after seeing the video, seems like a big failure of the sensors. This lady was right in front, and no braking at all, it seems. Autonomous cars have a ways to go before they'll be mainstream.
    I’d say that last sentence has nothing to do with your assessment of the crash.

    For example, this would also be true if, say, a car prevented injury that a human couldn’t:

    “Whoa, after seeing the video, seems like a big win for autonomous driving. The guy was looking at his console when she stepped out, which means her life was saved by the car’s system. Autonomous cars have a ways to go before they'll be mainstream.”




    http://www.thedrive.com/opinion/19504/disgraceful-dashcam-video-proves-uber-is-the-theranos-of-self-driving
    Another good link TMay!

    I like his suggestion at the end of his piece too. ;)
    Waymo and Google, as an example, appear to be very serious about safety in their public testing, which contrasts sharply with Uber's history in all aspects of autonomous vehicles. Stealing tech? Uber did that too.

    NTSB should recommend indefinite suspension of Uber's autonomous public testing program, or in lieu of that, require governmental and public oversight on a very granular level.
    edited March 2018
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