Apple issues first macOS High Sierra 10.13.5 beta to developers

AppleInsider

Following the release of macOS High Sierra 10.13.4 on Friday, Apple has restarted the operating system testing cycle once again, issuing its first beta of macOS 10.13.5 to developers enrolled in Apple's testing program on Tuesday.

The first High Sierra 10.13.5 beta bears the build number 17F35e. The test version has yet to make its way to Apple's developer webpage, but is available through the Mac App Store for those who provisioned their Mac to run beta software.

AppleInsider is currently testing out the new beta to find out what new features have been included in this first release.

Developers are able to download macOS High Sierra 10.13.5 beta 1 via the Mac App Store and, when it goes live, Apple's developer portal.

AppleInsider, and Apple itself, strongly advise against installing beta releases on mission-critical hardware, due to the potential loss of data that can occur.

Apple released macOS 10.13.4 to the public on March 29, introducing enhanced eGPU support to the operating system. The addition makes it easier for users to connect a separate Thunderbolt 3 enclosure equipped with a dedicated video card to a Mac, which can increase the available processing power for graphics-heavy tasks, such as VR, gaming, and CAD.

Business Chat was also included, allowing users to communicate directly with companies via Messages, and even make purchases. The update also introduced more clarity on privacy and personal information, the ability to sort Safari bookmarks, and a number of other stability, performance, and security changes.

The first macOS beta also arrives one day after similar initial betas for iOS 11.4, tvOS 11.4, and watchOS 4.3.1 were released to developers.

bobolicious

...can anyone point to a MacOS download that is finished beta testing ie. High Sierra 10.12.6...?
Has the lack of user choice become just silly ?
Thx

edited April 2018

emoeller

MacOS 10.13.4 was a lousy upgrade as it messed up more than it fixed, including disabling DuetDisplay.  

djames4242

emoeller said:

MacOS 10.13.4 was a lousy upgrade as it messed up more than it fixed, including disabling DuetDisplay.  

Also AirDisplay and DisplayLink. Basically any usb (or WiFi) based external display software. 

darkvader

When has Apple released anything that doesn't break more than it fixes lately?

Ever since 10.7 broke scroll arrows and Rosetta, Apple has been releasing disasters.  Actually, you can even go back to 10.6, when it broke AppleTalk, lots of perfectly good printers were thrown away because of that stupidity.

And now they're destroying the Server app, which they already crippled horribly, they're planning on breaking 32 bit Mac apps for no good reason after they already broke (again, for no good reason) 32 bit apps on iOS.

And of course there's the Logic Pro and Final Cut Pro disasters.

Apple's philosophy these days seems to be "How can we make life harder for people who actually need to get work done"?

flydog

emoeller said:

MacOS 10.13.4 was a lousy upgrade as it messed up more than it fixed, including disabling DuetDisplay.  

Duet relied on a hack that was never officially supported by MacOS. Duet also had months to test and develop a workaround, but for whatever reason failed to do so. Your gripe is with Duet not Apple. 

flydog

darkvader said:

Ever since 10.7 broke scroll arrows and Rosetta, Apple has been releasing disasters.  Actually, you can even go back to 10.6, when it broke AppleTalk, lots of perfectly good printers were thrown away because of that stupidity.

Ha ha, AppleTalk? Are you also grieving the demise of dot matrix printers and dial up modems?

bobolicious

flydog said:

darkvader said:

Ever since 10.7 broke scroll arrows and Rosetta, Apple has been releasing disasters.  Actually, you can even go back to 10.6, when it broke AppleTalk, lots of perfectly good printers were thrown away because of that stupidity.

Ha ha, AppleTalk? Are you also grieving the demise of dot matrix printers and dial up modems?

I noted a dot matrix printer at our local hardware store, and I understand they and impact printers are still needed, especially for businesses and multipart forms... Many still use fax (medical, legal, construction, etc) as well, and I understand the US Robotics fax dongle has worked for some: http://www.usr.com/en-support/product?prod=5637 https://gist.github.com/essandess/8c0722794562821a24e6cd6fcec3bb8b

Do privacy, data security and copyright concerns still suggest fax and paper...?

https://www.cnet.com/news/kremlin-finds-way-to-avoid-leaks-typewriters/

And then there would seem the questions of the electronics grave yard 'farms', precious metal & toxic waste, and meaningful sustainability, vs the iconography of recycling ink cartridges...

edited April 2018

mike eggleston

darkvader said:

Ever since 10.7 broke scroll arrows and Rosetta, Apple has been releasing disasters.  Actually, you can even go back to 10.6, when it broke AppleTalk, lots of perfectly good printers were thrown away because of that stupidity.

Wait, what?? They didn't break the scroll arrows, just that no one was using them anymore. And as for scrolling, if you feel THAT obsessed about it, you can turn that off in the System Preferences; look up "Natural Scrolling". And Rosetta was an emulation layer to deal with the transition from PowerPC to Intel chips. That didn't break; that was phased out. Maybe next time, when you have a list of gripes, you might want to check your facts before ranting. I hate it when good people look just stupid.

fastasleep

bobolicious said:

...can anyone point to a MacOS download that is finished beta testing ie. High Sierra 10.12.6...?
Has the lack of user choice become just silly ?
Thx

What are you talking about? 10.12.6 would be the last version of Sierra, which came out July 2017. The last non-beta version of High Sierra is available in the Mac App Store.

fastasleep

darkvader said:

When has Apple released anything that doesn't break more than it fixes lately?

Ever since 10.7 broke scroll arrows and Rosetta, Apple has been releasing disasters.  Actually, you can even go back to 10.6, when it broke AppleTalk, lots of perfectly good printers were thrown away because of that stupidity.

And now they're destroying the Server app, which they already crippled horribly, they're planning on breaking 32 bit Mac apps for no good reason after they already broke (again, for no good reason) 32 bit apps on iOS.

And of course there's the Logic Pro and Final Cut Pro disasters.

Apple's philosophy these days seems to be "How can we make life harder for people who actually need to get work done"?

LOL scroll arrows? appletalk? why not toss in SCSI or ADB?

macpro

Just a word of caution after the update everything works fine except Photos is re-uploading 41,550 photos again for some strange reason.  I'm going to go back to 10.13.4 and see if upgrading back to 10.13.5 after that fixes this.