Sad Apple is artificially blocking the likes of Spotify to have Siri integration. Driving is unsafe because of it.
Right, because handing your phone while driving is the absolute only way to listen to anything.
I use Siri to text while driving all the time, yet I still see people stopped at green lights because they are too busy typing out a text message. Siri integration is not the end-all-be-all to safe driving.
Explain me how you safely locate a song in your library, change a playlist or search on Spotify without having to quickly bounce back between your tiny screen and view on the road multiple times before you get there, missing seconds.
It IS dangerous. It’s exactly that type of situation where voice control is vastly superior. I don’t get why you are disputing that.
Sad Apple is artificially blocking the likes of Spotify to have Siri integration. Driving is unsafe because of it.
People are responsible for their own actions. While I agree that Apple should allow integration with Spotify, ultimately, it is the driver of the car that has the responsibility of not playing with their phone while driving.
Exactly! And how do you become responsible? By getting handed the tools that make it safe (aka: Siri).
You can’t simply put all the responsibility on the user. Even Apple acknowledges this by developing Car Play, an interface supposably designed to be more safe while driving. Apple advertised Siri being great for driving because it’s more safe. And then fails to push through.
Regardless, my point is that if you offer millions of songs in your pocket, and access to what have you, you are creating a need, changing people’s behavior. Don’t pretend you’re an angel and never tried to use your phone while driving, that’s hypocritical. It is indeed WRONG. That’s not my point!
My point is that if Apple does have the technology ready to support a safe way to control apps, they shouldn’t block end-users from it just because they want more market share and frustrate their competitors, hurting end-users from being able to safely control their library of songs. They allow Apple Music to be voice controlled!
Same thing by blocking Google Maps to run Car Play. The later is clearly being seen as superior by people around me, yet people are blocked from using it in conjunction with Siri or CarPlay.
I really wish Apple offered a web interface for Apple Music. I may be in a small subset of users, but I can't install iTunes on my work PC and therefore can't use Apple Music at work.
I'm in the opposite boat. I tried Google Play Music for a month but one thing I didn't like was that there's only a web player, no DT app. It drives me crazy as I have a million Chrome windows open and struggle to quickly spot which one is the music player.
Google has a mini player on the desktop that provides instant access to basic music controls.
I really wish Apple offered a web interface for Apple Music. I may be in a small subset of users, but I can't install iTunes on my work PC and therefore can't use Apple Music at work.
I'm in the opposite boat. I tried Google Play Music for a month but one thing I didn't like was that there's only a web player, no DT app. It drives me crazy as I have a million Chrome windows open and struggle to quickly spot which one is the music player.
Google has a mini player on the desktop that provides instant access to basic music controls.
Shill much?
Offering information relevant to another members stated interest is hardly shilling, especially in a thread where "not Apple services" are part of the topic. I wasn't aware that Google Music had a desktop mini-player either, so yeah the OP was helpful. Your post on the other hand...
This is a really difficult comparison to make because so much lies in details and execution rather than major features... I have no desire to try YouTube music. But I've been using Apple Music religiously for well over a year now -- probably two -- and I still have a love-hate relationship with it. It is significantly improved since then but continues to have serious flaws:
1) On my iPhone 6 it is SLOW. Really, really slow. Often I've driven a half mile or more before I can use it to play music which forces me to either sit in my garage for several minutes till it all loads -- or use it while driving. Neither option is appealing. First "For You" has to load, then I have to select a playlist, then the playlist has to load. I suspect part of that is switching from WiFi to cellular rather than Apple Music per se because the lag is far less when I'm at home attached to solid WiFi signal...
2) Apple Music destroyed my library... It took my library of MP3's downloaded from CD and vinyl albums and replaced it with their own. Often a number of songs are missing from the album. And frequently, the individual songs are different versions and arrangements than what was on the album -- so the original is no longer available for me to play. Further, it wiped out the genres that I had set up: For instance, I used to be able to select "Christmas Music" or "80's jazz" and get a bunch of appropriate songs that I like. That's gone. Since I was willing to pay for the storage on my phone, there was no real reason for Apple to do that. But my choice is to either have Apple Music OR my original library -- but I can't have both.
3) They're newer music selections mostly suck. They're dominated by "cheap" music where a single person sings (mostly in a whiny monotone) with a background of electronic sounds (Ka--Thump, Ka-Thump, Ka-Thump-a... ). It's not really music. And, Apple Music has yet to figure out that I hate rap... Can't stand it....
All details of execution that are difficult to compare between products.
Sad Apple is artificially blocking the likes of Spotify to have Siri integration. Driving is unsafe because of it.
Right, because handing your phone while driving is the absolute only way to listen to anything.
I use Siri to text while driving all the time, yet I still see people stopped at green lights because they are too busy typing out a text message. Siri integration is not the end-all-be-all to safe driving.
It IS dangerous. It’s exactly that type of situation where voice control is vastly superior. I don’t get why you are disputing that.
When did I dispute that voice control would be better?
You have options. Choosing the one that “forces” you to handle your phone while driving (which is also pushing it, because you could just be patient) is a bad decision.
It is possible not to use Spotify (or Apple Music) while driving and still listen to music. There is nothing mandating you to be distracted by a phone.
Trying to to put the blame on Apple is as silly as the claims it is Apple’s fault when someone has an accident while driving and using FaceTime.
I really wish Apple offered a web interface for Apple Music. I may be in a small subset of users, but I can't install iTunes on my work PC and therefore can't use Apple Music at work.
You must have a very permissive employer if they let you stream personal, non-business related content to a company computer using company networking resources and company paid-for bandwidth.
Curious why you can’t utilize your music subscription or iTunes from your personal iPhone, iPad, or iPod while at work?
That doesn't seem to be a problem for them. Just the installation of unauthorized software.
Phone could work except I use it constantly. suppose I could pick up a Touch for that, easier just to use Pandora at my desk.
I tried the Apple Music free trial and found that I had to push too many buttons to get to my music and changed to what was Youtube Red and is now YT Music.
I tried the Apple Music free trial and found that I had to push too many buttons to get to my music and changed to what was Youtube Red and is now YT Music.
I tried the Apple Music free trial and found that I had to push too many buttons to get to my music and changed to what was Youtube Red and is now YT Music.
YouTube Red was just a bad name from the start. Too close to RedTube and “Red” doesn’t give you any indication of what it offers over regular YouTube. Premium, at least in English, is an indicator even if you don’t know any of the specifics.
What I really dislike about Google’s name swapping, is they usually do it with successful products.
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It IS dangerous. It’s exactly that type of situation where voice control is vastly superior. I don’t get why you are disputing that.
And how do you become responsible?
By getting handed the tools that make it safe (aka: Siri).
You can’t simply put all the responsibility on the user. Even Apple acknowledges this by developing Car Play, an interface supposably designed to be more safe while driving. Apple advertised Siri being great for driving because it’s more safe. And then fails to push through.
Regardless, my point is that if you offer millions of songs in your pocket, and access to what have you, you are creating a need, changing people’s behavior. Don’t pretend you’re an angel and never tried to use your phone while driving, that’s hypocritical. It is indeed WRONG. That’s not my point!
My point is that if Apple does have the technology ready to support a safe way to control apps, they shouldn’t block end-users from it just because they want more market share and frustrate their competitors, hurting end-users from being able to safely control their library of songs. They allow Apple Music to be voice controlled!
Same thing by blocking Google Maps to run Car Play. The later is clearly being seen as superior by people around me, yet people are blocked from using it in conjunction with Siri or CarPlay.
You have options. Choosing the one that “forces” you to handle your phone while driving (which is also pushing it, because you could just be patient) is a bad decision.
It is possible not to use Spotify (or Apple Music) while driving and still listen to music. There is nothing mandating you to be distracted by a phone.
Trying to to put the blame on Apple is as silly as the claims it is Apple’s fault when someone has an accident while driving and using FaceTime.
https://www.imore.com/google-play-music-and-youtube-red-everything-you-need-know
What I really dislike about Google’s name swapping, is they usually do it with successful products.