Just like ( by the same logic of yours)the phrase “ it is a fairly reasonable indicator” means it is not a reasonable indicator at all. So, you have kind of chopped off your own legs here... There is a problem with swiping generalizations which is - it gets applied to you eventually..
Touché! You make a point, however the phrases I refer to are describing the individual's thought process, where as "is a fairly reasonable indicator" is more of a general statement that would apply to a population vs. an individual who is saying it: it's statistical vs. ... hmmm .. what's the word I'm looking for? Let's use "personal" in lieu of a better term. I'm still waking up. :-)
If I had written "I'm not one to judge, but ... " then your argument would apply; I am obviously judging in that case. Not so with what I originally wrote.
I believe Tim Cook when he says that Apple didn’t established an office in Ireland in 1980 for tax reasons. However, Apple’s Ireland base has certainly been a convenient vehicle for dodging taxes in recent years.
Agreed. Tim isn't denying the tax benefits of being in Ireland. However, in 1980, the climate was a bit different and such advanced tax schemes didn't really even exist. Apple needed a presence in Europe and Ireland, one of the English speaking countries, would naturally be high on the list to begin with. There's also the cost of labor, etc. which was also favorable in Ireland. The point being, I see why Cook's comment raises eye browses given the course of things over the years. That doesn't make him a liar though.
I believe Tim Cook when he says that Apple didn’t established an office in Ireland in 1980 for tax reasons. However, Apple’s Ireland base has certainly been a convenient vehicle for dodging taxes in recent years.
Agreed. Tim isn't denying the tax benefits of being in Ireland. However, in 1980, the climate was a bit different and such advanced tax schemes didn't really even exist
Incorrect. Apple chose Ireland as an EU base back in the 80's precisely because of the new corporate tax policies there, and they were not the only ones. See the link in post 25
I believe Tim Cook when he says that Apple didn’t established an office in Ireland in 1980 for tax reasons. However, Apple’s Ireland base has certainly been a convenient vehicle for dodging taxes in recent years.
Agreed. Tim isn't denying the tax benefits of being in Ireland. However, in 1980, the climate was a bit different and such advanced tax schemes didn't really even exist. Apple needed a presence in Europe and Ireland, one of the English speaking countries, would naturally be high on the list to begin with. There's also the cost of labor, etc. which was also favorable in Ireland. The point being, I see why Cook's comment raises eye browses given the course of things over the years. That doesn't make him a liar though.
What do you call him after reading this?
Former Apple executives claim the almost tax-free status enjoyed in Irelandby the iPhone and iPad maker dates back to the firm’s arrival here 32 years ago. “There were tax concessions for us to go there,” said Del Yocam, who was vice president of manufacturing at Apple in the 1980s.
Another former finance executive, who asked not to be named, said: “We had a tax holiday for the first 10 years in Ireland. We paid no taxes to the Irish Government. ”
Apple wasn’t an exception, although it was among the last to enjoy such treatment. From 1956 to 1980, Ireland attracted foreign companies by offering a zero rate of tax.
When someone begins a statement with "Honestly speaking" it is a fairly reasonable indicator that they are not speaking honestly. It's like using "no offence" or "I'm not a racist, but ..."; they tend to be followed up with offensive or racist verbiage.
Just like ( by the same logic of yours)the phrase “ it is a fairly reasonable indicator” means it is not a reasonable indicator at all. So, you have kind of chopped off your own legs here... There is a problem with swiping generalizations which is - it gets applied to you eventually..
I don't follow. An over-the-counter home pregnancy test is a fairly reasonable indicator that one is likely pregnant, but it's not absolute, nor should it be assumed that it. The test doesn't test for pregnancy, but for the hormone called human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) being present in the urine. This hormone tends to be created after a fertilized egg attaches to the wall of the uterus. But that doesn't mean the egg is still attached, the hormone wasn't released for other reasons, or that the test strip could be faulty, hence why a reasonable person would qualify a statement with something that isn't an unwavering absolute. Even if the statistical likelihood of a false positive was less than 1% you shouldn't still should state is a certainty.
“You do not follow” would be a correct assessment indeed. I was simply pointing out that when one says with certainty “every time a person uses a phrase “honestly speaking” that would mean there will be no honest speaking” (in statistics = 100% of the time), that is a phrase that can easily be proven wrong with just one example of where it wasn't so, thus competely invalidating the initial point. That was the only point I was trying to make. And that is why a swipping generalization is a bad thing.
Cook sounded so much like a politican I checked my back pocket to make sure my wallet was still there. It was not a good day for your credibility Mr Cook.
All those trips to Washington during the last administration told me Cook was planning to eventually run for office. Steve Jobs never demonstrated any interest in hanging around politicians, although he did famously take the previous president to task while at a dinner.
ROFL....
... How's life in that fantasy world you're living in?
EU is a corrupt and not serving thier members equally.....glad the Brits are smart enough to see the lights....
hmm yeh cos that's going so well for us so far. I voted leave btw but not for this shambles we're in and will be stuck in for the foreseeable until the May regime is removed. Can't the US do one of those CIA-funded-government-toppling-uprisings in the UK please, the Libyan model perhaps; our political system could do with a reset.
hmm yeh cos that's going so well for us so far. I voted leave btw but not for this shambles we're in and will be stuck in for the foreseeable until the May regime is removed. Can't the US do one of those CIA-funded-government-toppling-uprisings in the UK please, the Libyan model perhaps; our political system could do with a reset.
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Former Apple executives claim the almost tax-free status enjoyed in Irelandby the iPhone and iPad maker dates back to the firm’s arrival here 32 years ago. “There were tax concessions for us to go there,” said Del Yocam, who was vice president of manufacturing at Apple in the 1980s.
Another former finance executive, who asked not to be named, said: “We had a tax holiday for the first 10 years in Ireland. We paid no taxes to the Irish Government. ”
Apple wasn’t an exception, although it was among the last to enjoy such treatment. From 1956 to 1980, Ireland attracted foreign companies by offering a zero rate of tax.
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/technology/how-apple-first-landed-in-ireland-1.1405766
And that is why a swipping generalization is a bad thing.