Turkey's president calls for boycott of Apple products

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in General Discussion edited August 2018
Amid rising trade tensions with the United States and local economic catastrophe, Turkey's president has named Apple specifically as a boycott target.

Artist rendering of Apple Store location in Istanbul


President Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey announced that the country will retaliate against U.S. tariffs with a national boycott of electronics products from U.S. companies, Apple included. The move is in retaliation for the U.S. move to raise tariffs on Turkish metal exports, as well as sanctions on a pair of Turkish ministers.

"We will impose a boycott on U.S. electronic products," Ergodan said. "If they have iPhones, there is Samsung on the other side, and we have our own Vestel here."

The move appears, at least for the time being, to have stabilized Turkey's currency, the lira, which has dropped 40 percent this year.

If Turkey follows through with the boycott, it would represent real-world consequences for the Trump Administration's confrontational trade policies, in a way that could serve to hurt an American company. While the administration has reportedly promised Apple that the iPhone itself will not be directly subject to tariffs, Turkey's move shows that Apple could suffer consequences regardless.

Apple's Turkish presence

Apple has a pair of Apple Stores in Istanbul, and has in recent years made its products and services available in Turkey. CEO Tim Cook has annually marked the holiday of Turkish Children's Day, sharing an Apple Pencil-drawn portrait by a Turkish child on his Twitter account this past April.

It's Children's Day in Turkey! Thanks to 13-year-old Ozgun Asya from Istanbul for this colorful self-portrait, created on iPad using Apple Pencil. pic.twitter.com/N5EzH11F1x

-- Tim Cook (@tim_cook)


it isn't clear how much of Apple's business is in Turkey, nor what volume of sales are realized in the country.

The tension is a notable change from 2016, when Mehmet Simsek, Turkey's Deputy Prime Minister, openly suggested that Apple should "move to Turkey," in order to escape the European Union and pay lower taxes.

Ergodan has used an iPhone, specifically FaceTime, to call into media outlets in the past.
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  • Reply 1 of 50
    Oh well. Turkey is a disaster waiting to happen, and lets not forget the economic boom the US is currently having eh.
    anton zuykovjbdragonanantksundaramentropyswolfgoodfellow
  • Reply 2 of 50
    I just don't see this having a huge impact on Apple.  People know and love the products.  Apple is not putting the tariffs on these imports.  Thoughts?
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 3 of 50
    Economic boom, lol. Imaginary numbers while wages are down, jobs are vanishing, our schools are war zones and real people are suffering on the street. If Turkey is a disaster waiting to happen, it's only because they are a few steps further down the same road we are on.
    jeffharrisspice-boypropodirelandphilboogietokyojimubaconstangberndogwatto_cobrajony0
  • Reply 4 of 50
    JoeBee said:
    Economic boom, lol. Imaginary numbers while wages are down, jobs are vanishing, our schools are war zones and real people are suffering on the street. If Turkey is a disaster waiting to happen, it's only because they are a few steps further down the same road we are on.
    Wages are down? Really? Everywhere I go it says they are hiring. The economy grew quite a bit better for the last two years. UNemployment is really low. 
    The fact that schools are war zones is a responsibility of those who vote for local politicians and determine, what is done in those schools. In any free country there will be people on streets that suffer, if that was their choice. You CANT do anything about it for precisely that reason alone.

    No, wages are not down, economy is not collapsing and the world is not ending. It is actually the opposite right now.
    Stop watching/reading/listening to BS news that fed you that crap, and instead, look at the facts.
    edited August 2018 bloggerblograndominternetpersonhodarjbdragonracerhomie3wolfgoodfellowJWSC1983williamlondon
  • Reply 5 of 50
    The guy’s pretty unhinged. This is not even a rounding error for Apple. 
    JanNLjeffharrisJWSCwatto_cobra
  • Reply 6 of 50
    No need for enemy when you have a friend like this...
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 7 of 50
    JanNLJanNL Posts: 327member
    I just don't see this having a huge impact on Apple.  People know and love the products.  Apple is not putting the tariffs on these imports.  Thoughts?
    Agree, but you could be surprised as how the people of Turkey ánd Turkish people living in the rest of Europe are slavishly following their "leader". It's unbelievable how some reasonably smart Turkish people are swallowing all the nonsense Erdogan is putting out... but they do.
    philboogie1983williamlondonwatto_cobra
  • Reply 8 of 50
    tmaytmay Posts: 6,344member
    U.S. nixed Turkey getting F-35's as they are now considered within sphere of influence of Russia, and frankly, unstable. http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/22859/no-stealth-for-you-trump-signs-defense-bill-that-blocks-transfer-of-f-35s-to-turkey This isn't the first, nor will it be the last, boycott of Apple products for political reasons.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 9 of 50
    Just a war of words with minimal impact on Apple itself.
    What the US is doing is good for the US, no doubt. Long term though, as it leverages the US dollar influence worldwide (sanctions etc.) there is a growing backlash that will shift power to the Yen, Ruble and possibly even the Euro to be the back-end currency in trade and financial transactions and thus have the control and influence. I can't see the real people in power letting that happen.
  • Reply 10 of 50
    asciiascii Posts: 5,936member
    The US president sure wants the US to make its own steel again, and seems willing to take the international heat to make it happen. Not just from Turkey but Canada and Europe as well.

    I think its short-sighted of Turkey to block US tech imports, because they need all the tech they can get in that part of the world, to help keep up.
    hodarwolfgoodfellowwatto_cobra
  • Reply 11 of 50
    spice-boyspice-boy Posts: 1,450member
    Oh well. Turkey is a disaster waiting to happen, and lets not forget the economic boom the US is currently having eh.
    high dollar means our exports will more expensive to buy overseas, that is not good.
  • Reply 12 of 50
    spice-boyspice-boy Posts: 1,450member

    ascii said:
    The US president sure wants the US to make its own steel again, and seems willing to take the international heat to make it happen. Not just from Turkey but Canada and Europe as well.

    I think its short-sighted of Turkey to block US tech imports, because they need all the tech they can get in that part of the world, to help keep up.
    short sighted yes but from here not there. 
    propod
  • Reply 13 of 50
    Political saber rattling. Nothing more.
  • Reply 14 of 50
    foggyhillfoggyhill Posts: 4,767member
    JoeBee said:
    Economic boom, lol. Imaginary numbers while wages are down, jobs are vanishing, our schools are war zones and real people are suffering on the street. If Turkey is a disaster waiting to happen, it's only because they are a few steps further down the same road we are on.
    Wages are down? Really? Everywhere I go it says they are hiring. The economy grew quite a bit better for the last two years. UNemployment is really low. 
    The fact that schools are war zones is a responsibility of those who vote for local politicians and determine, what is done in those schools. In any free country there will be people on streets that suffer, if that was their choice. You CANT do anything about it for precicely that reason alone.
    Wages are down buddy when inflation adjusted and not including the top 10%; you're feels has nothing to do with it. As for the rest, blah blah blah blah blah blah.
    If you are an engineer, lawyer or doctor, yeah they're doing great and so fracking what.
    edited August 2018 tmayStrangeDaysbaconstangberndogwilliamlondon
  • Reply 15 of 50
    spice-boyspice-boy Posts: 1,450member

    adm1 said:
    Just a war of words with minimal impact on Apple itself.
    What the US is doing is good for the US, no doubt. Long term though, as it leverages the US dollar influence worldwide (sanctions etc.) there is a growing backlash that will shift power to the Yen, Ruble and possibly even the Euro to be the back-end currency in trade and financial transactions and thus have the control and influence. I can't see the real people in power letting that happen.
    More countries will follow suit and Apple as well as other countries who profit from international trade suffer from this. Who knows which country will be next to push back on these policies. Could India be next? Unpredictability is bad for any economy or business. 
  • Reply 16 of 50
    spice-boyspice-boy Posts: 1,450member

    tmay said:
    U.S. nixed Turkey getting F-35's as they are now considered within sphere of influence of Russia, and frankly, unstable. http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/22859/no-stealth-for-you-trump-signs-defense-bill-that-blocks-transfer-of-f-35s-to-turkey This isn't the first, nor will it be the last, boycott of Apple products for political reasons.
    Turkeys not the only country within the "sphere of Russia's influence" I can think of one much closer, no, not Canada. 
    tokyojimubaconstangJWSC
  • Reply 17 of 50
    mytdavemytdave Posts: 447member
    The cheese has been moved. Just like everyone else, they'll jump up and down, make a lot of noise, and then when the tantrum is over, things will settle back down and it'll end up being better than before.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 18 of 50
    spice-boyspice-boy Posts: 1,450member

    JoeBee said:
    Economic boom, lol. Imaginary numbers while wages are down, jobs are vanishing, our schools are war zones and real people are suffering on the street. If Turkey is a disaster waiting to happen, it's only because they are a few steps further down the same road we are on.
    Wages are down? Really? Everywhere I go it says they are hiring. The economy grew quite a bit better for the last two years. UNemployment is really low. 
    The fact that schools are war zones is a responsibility of those who vote for local politicians and determine, what is done in those schools. In any free country there will be people on streets that suffer, if that was their choice. You CANT do anything about it for precicely that reason alone.
    There are not many people on the streets of Sweden, Finland, Denmark and Norway and those are free countries. Stop believing that to have freedom some must suffer. A country like the US generate a lot of money the only reason people suffer here is because free people have decided they don't care.  Please remember your statement if disaster ever strikes you or your family, make sure to not accept assistance because freedom must include suffering.
    dewmepropodStrangeDaysbaconstangberndogsphericwilliamlondonjony0
  • Reply 19 of 50
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 10,557member
    Oh well. Turkey is a disaster waiting to happen, and lets not forget the economic boom the US is currently having eh.
    That “disaster waiting to happen” will be Turkey running into the arms of Vladimir Putin. Erdogan is all but a dictator now and if he pulls Turkey out of NATO we will be in a world of hurt as Turkey is crucial to our ability to retain what little influence we have these days in the Middle East.

    But regarding Apple they became a symbol of American power and influence in the world when they reached that $1 Trillion mark. The world’s most valuable company has a giant target on its back now and will be used as a political bargaining chip whenever it suits the situation. Turkey, China, India are not stupid when it comes to using economic threats to remind the U.S. of its limitations. And Apple is a sitting duck right now.
    JWSC1983watto_cobra
  • Reply 20 of 50
    Swami BaloneySwami Baloney Posts: 19unconfirmed, member
    Trumps's buddy,. Let's boycott his taffee
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