Lisa Brennan-Jobs details life with Steve In interview promoting memoir

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  • Reply 21 of 28

    eightzero said:
    sumergo said:
    Well Lisa Brennan-Jobs:  Please give all the money you inherited from your despised Father to Bill Gates and his foundations.

    You seem to need some therapy about your self-regard, but what you really need to do is stop whining - there are people who would love to have your "problems".


    Easy. I think the world is a very different place when you're a teenager, or younger. I wouldn't wish those problems on kids under any circumstances. 

    I guessing writing this book was perhaps cathartic for someone coming to grips with their now fame and perhaps lonely past. I've only met one uber-wealthy person, and he is quite kind and normal. I have met lots of people that had asshole parents, and many of them are, well... not. It might be worth a read, as it is hard for me to relate to uber-richness. 
    Well put @eightzero.
    eightzero
  • Reply 22 of 28
    netrox said:
    "We're just cold people," Powell-Jobs responded to the therapist. The line, according to Brennan-Jobs, is the best in the book.

    I agree. That's how I think... cold but not evil in a sense, just cold. Indifferent. Little passion for individuals. But it can be an advantage. 


    Wrong again. So wrong. He had that capability, but that was not 'him'. She sounds like she's experienced trauma in the past; she has characteristic, internalized emotional numbing.

    Anyway, her actions and words seem a bit petty; she's obviously emotionally compromised and conflicted. She even has a computer named after her and is an indelible part of the Apple legacy. It's sad that she isn't able to transcend her emotional barriers to see who her father was and what he accomplished.

    Also, it's laughable how many people have so much conviction behind their simplistic, reductionist view of Steve, who is unarguably one of the most complicated and misunderstood people in history. One of the worst offenders was Sorkin trying to frame everything Steve did around him just wanting to be 'in control.'

    StrangeDays
  • Reply 23 of 28
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    aknabi said:
    A pathetic woman.
    That comment is clearly a reflection of the person that wrote it.
    A pathetic man.

    Now shut up and stop projecting your sexism onto others. Or what? I thought you wanted women to be equal to men. That means they get to be called pathetic, too.
    SpamSandwich
  • Reply 24 of 28
    macguimacgui Posts: 2,358member
    sumergo said:
    Well Lisa Brennan-Jobs:  Please give all the money you inherited from your despised Father to Bill Gates and his foundations.

    You seem to need some therapy about your self-regard, but what you really need to do is stop whining - there are people who would love to have your "problems".



    Sure, until they actually have them

    You're pretty judgmental for someone who, like the rest of us, don't know what she'd been through. 

    It seems you're a cold person as well. Like her dad, you're ignoring her problems with "problems", and dismissing them as whines. You clearly don't have to worry about having excess compassion. Or any, probably.

    It appears that she has been and also may be seeing a therapist. You're a little too self-absorbed to see that.

    As to the desire to have her father's wealth given to the Gates Foundation, I too wonder if she's donated any and how much of her inheritance to it.

    Clearly Jobs was a bad father to her for most of her life. Not just absent but bad, with a cruel streak. At some point in his life, he seemed to mature. I hope it wasn't the turn in his health that begat that. I'd like to think it happened just because he realized how wrong he's been.

    That still doesn't make up for his treatment of her, again, for most of her life. Her depiction of Jobs could obviously be colored by her experience, just as Job's preferred family's perception could be similarly colored, but for completely different reasons.

    Has Jobs had more time, maybe he would have worked at making her a family member. I don't know if he did anything beyond including her in his will. The 'other family' can try, but only Jobs could have made her feel really wanted.

    Some people here are complete idiots, thinking throwing money at a damaged individual suddenly 'fixes' everything that was and wasn't done.

    I seriously doubt she's done to her father what he's done to her. Not even close. I hope she finds someone who can, if not fill the void Jobs left, at least help soften the sharp edges.


  • Reply 25 of 28
    buzdotsbuzdots Posts: 452member
    sumergo said:
    eightzero said:
    sumergo said:
    Well Lisa Brennan-Jobs:  Please give all the money you inherited from your despised Father to Bill Gates and his foundations.

    You seem to need some therapy about your self-regard, but what you really need to do is stop whining - there are people who would love to have your "problems".


    Easy. I think the world is a very different place when you're a teenager, or younger. I wouldn't wish those problems on kids under any circumstances. 

    I guessing writing this book was perhaps cathartic for someone coming to grips with their now fame and perhaps lonely past. I've only met one uber-wealthy person, and he is quite kind and normal. I have met lots of people that had asshole parents, and many of them are, well... not. It might be worth a read, as it is hard for me to relate to uber-richness. 
    Understood.  But in our current western victim culture, we actually really do need to stand up and not be so pathetically needy.  Where's the gut and spine of the Americans of yesteryear?
    Not much of that anymore.  For the most part, we have digressed into a bunch of whining pussies who want to blame everyone else for our ills.  We promote the least of us as being equal to the best of us.  And each as deserving as those who have worked for what they have and lived or are living a productive life.

    A participation trophy for all.

    It does suck to be rejected or ignored by parents, but that should not be a crutch for the remainder of ones life.  Certainly not an impetus to write a book...
    edited August 2018 tallest skil
  • Reply 26 of 28
    larryjwlarryjw Posts: 1,031member
    Surprised? Why? The rich and powerful pretty much get away with anything. Even little fish in littler ponds seem to garner undeserved praise and loyalty.

    Bad parents? Not a surprise either. I sat on a grand jury where this locally well-to-do couple was whoring out their 7-10 year old kids in an international child pornography ring. Just this week, social workers found this nice couple was keeping their adopted children in cages. 

    The more I learn about people the more disgusted I am with them. So Steve Jobs, and perhaps his wife, were just like that. 

    I never did care for the divine right of kings. Don't care for it any more when the "kings" are just the rich and powerful. 

    We do live in an age when arguments can be and are made to justify anything, regardless of how despicable. Those accepting these arguments are no better. 
    edited August 2018
  • Reply 27 of 28
    jodymtjodymt Posts: 1unconfirmed, member
    Considering how Steve obviously resented Lisa and her mother, I am shocked that he left her a lot of money. Of course when she says her inheritance was equal to her other siblings, that is very likely not the case in the long run. Laurene will very likely leave the bulk of her fortune to her threee children when she dies. Steve likely gave all the kids a trust with equal amounts so Lisa didn't try to sue, knowing that his other children would inherit a lot more down the line and benefit from all of his money all of their lives. Lisa on the other hand has probably seen the last of the Jobs money.
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