An iPhone X can hit 50 percent charge in as little as 30 minutes, but only when using Apple's Lightning to USB-C cable and an adapter with USB-C Power Delivery. That typically means buying a new cable and a MacBook adapter, the cheapest Apple option for the latter being a $49 30-watt unit.
I'm so sick of hearing this $49 figure. Every discussion of iPhone charging should mention the 12W charger. That's really the right default recommendation. Let's change the narrative on this.
The $19 12W charger hits 40 percent in 30 minutes, only slightly behind the USB-C options -- and double the speed of the bundled 5W charger.
That really should be the default recommendation when purchasing an iPhone. Spend more if you want but $19 for 2X the charging speed is an extremely good value.
Why is it so difficult for Apple to provide a 12W charger by default with the $650+ iPhones? Especially the X-series? $1,100 and I get a garbage charger? Anything to save a buck.
Why are you pretending the added cost of a bigger charger wouldn't be added to the price of the product offering?
I have enough e-junk in drawers, thank you very much. These days, everybody has at least one charger and if they don't can just buy one, rather than accrue them every year until they go back to landfill.
Apple is cheapskating its users. Pure and simple. If it could bring down the cost of battery replacements and not suffer economically, it could definitely ship a better charger. In fact, how do you even know there will be any added cost? And if there is, how much?
The whole point of a refresh is to improve the phone and make it more useful. That includes the charger as it is an essential part if the setup. Why not improve that element?
As for landfill, there is no reason for chargers to go there and if that is your concern, why not take chargers out of the box and make them a free optional element at purchase.
Printers don't normally come with cables because it is said (do you mind if I use the passive voice here?) that users already have one.
It is completely reasonable to want (expect even) a charger that matches the category of the phone considering its overall price.
Good. I didn't want to pay extra for a dongle I don't use on my iPhone 8 purchased earlier this year. I can't even find it right now. Make it an optional accessory. Will it be the end of Apple? Nah. I'm actually sorta happy it will piss off certain people, the same ones who thought they had Apple by the short hairs when they piously asked, "How do I listen and charge at the same time?"
An iPhone X can hit 50 percent charge in as little as 30 minutes, but only when using Apple's Lightning to USB-C cable and an adapter with USB-C Power Delivery. That typically means buying a new cable and a MacBook adapter, the cheapest Apple option for the latter being a $49 30-watt unit.
I'm so sick of hearing this $49 figure. Every discussion of iPhone charging should mention the 12W charger. That's really the right default recommendation. Let's change the narrative on this.
The $19 12W charger hits 40 percent in 30 minutes, only slightly behind the USB-C options -- and double the speed of the bundled 5W charger.
That really should be the default recommendation when purchasing an iPhone. Spend more if you want but $19 for 2X the charging speed is an extremely good value.
Why is it so difficult for Apple to provide a 12W charger by default with the $650+ iPhones? Especially the X-series? $1,100 and I get a garbage charger? Anything to save a buck.
Because Apple can be incredibly stingy. Look what they ship with the iPad Pro. Complete joke.
Killing this dongle one phone too soon. I'm sure I'm not the only person that has a 6 or 6s that will be upgrading to the Xs/Max/Xr. I have never had one of those dongles, so I guess now on top of $1000 for the phone I have to shell out more money for the dongle. Can't remember the last time I plugged headphones in, but I will still want that around the house in case I ever need it.
I appreciate the idea, but since this is the year they stop selling the last version of a 3.5mm headphone jack phone, they should also include the dongle for this year.
Killing this dongle one phone too soon. I'm sure I'm not the only person that has a 6 or 6s that will be upgrading to the Xs/Max/Xr. I have never had one of those dongles, so I guess now on top of $1000 for the phone I have to shell out more money for the dongle. Can't remember the last time I plugged headphones in, but I will still want that around the house in case I ever need it.
I appreciate the idea, but since this is the year they stop selling the last version of a 3.5mm headphone jack phone, they should also include the dongle for this year.
I was actually thinking the same thing. Including it for 3 years would cover the vast majority of people’s upgrade cycles.
An iPhone X can hit 50 percent charge in as little as 30 minutes, but only when using Apple's Lightning to USB-C cable and an adapter with USB-C Power Delivery. That typically means buying a new cable and a MacBook adapter, the cheapest Apple option for the latter being a $49 30-watt unit.
I'm so sick of hearing this $49 figure. Every discussion of iPhone charging should mention the 12W charger. That's really the right default recommendation. Let's change the narrative on this.
The $19 12W charger hits 40 percent in 30 minutes, only slightly behind the USB-C options -- and double the speed of the bundled 5W charger.
That really should be the default recommendation when purchasing an iPhone. Spend more if you want but $19 for 2X the charging speed is an extremely good value.
Why is it so difficult for Apple to provide a 12W charger by default with the $650+ iPhones? Especially the X-series? $1,100 and I get a garbage charger? Anything to save a buck.
Why are you pretending the added cost of a bigger charger wouldn't be added to the price of the product offering?
I have enough e-junk in drawers, thank you very much. These days, everybody has at least one charger and if they don't can just buy one, rather than accrue them every year until they go back to landfill.
And why are you implying that it isn’t right now? If I want a dongle to use any of the ‘outdated’ but still completely functional 3.5mm headphones I own, I need to pay an extra $9. If I want to charge my phone at anything faster than the outdatedly slow rate allowed by the 5 W charger, I have to pay an extra $20-40.
Does Apple (or any company) ever price their phones at $1009 or $1019? No. What they are doing is taking out an accessory that coasts apple significantly less and keeping the cost the same. That amounts to a defacto cost increase.
What I and many people find frustrating is that we pay a premium price for a premium phone from a company that has profit margins among the highest in the industry, only to have them cheap out on the included accessories.
You're making the ridiculous assumption hat by not dropping the price by $9 for a YoY model that they're still folding in the cost of the excluded item. Did you not consider any of the other YoY changes to the device that cost money? Or how to make this change from removing the 3.5mm headphone they had to eat some of their profit margin in order to include the headphone adapter because it was good for business until there was a certain threshold of BT users and/or customers that already had a adapter for wired headphones and/or before the outrage over an inexpensive, goddamn dongle wouldn't be a social media cry fest that could affect sales in a reasonably, measurable way.
Personally, the removable of all these things cannot come soon enough. I want the PSU, the Lightning cable, and the wired headphones to go away, too, because these are an actual expense that I have to pay for without getting any use out of them for several years now. With inductive charging this will grow even faster and become even more far reaching, but you're oddly OK with Apple being able to bundle stuff into an iPhone regardless of whether the customer needs it or not even if it's just a way to be able to charge more for for their iPhone. Did you even once look at it from that PoV? Surely you know that this accessories do cost money and that Apple isn't putting them in there for free or even at cost.
They dropped the adapter from *all* phones. There were no changes to the iPhone 7 or 8, save that you have to pay for an adapter. If they wanted to save some money, they could offer the adapter as a free option to the people who wanted/needed it. You comment how I’m oddly ok with apple bundling items that cost money, but you’re only ok with forcing other people to pay more. I’m not daft - I know that the accessories cost money, but I also know that I use them and the actual cost to Apple is significantly less than they charge. Also, wireless charging still fails to match wired charging for speed, and AirPower is nowhere to be seen.
If I were buying a cheap Android phone for $300, then I could understand leaving out the accessories, or including an underpowered power supply. But Apple is charging $1500 for it’s top of the line phone. And they’re too cheap to give it a proper power supply.
And yet, they continue to include the virtually useless Lighting EarPods, which have to cost more to make than the adapter, considering they charge $20 more for them.
As far as waste, it’s hard to fathom anyone buying a new iPhone does not already have a favorite pair of headphones they’re already using, and would prefer to continue using over a proprietary lower quality pair included in the box, which literally cannot be used with any other audio device, including Apple’s own Macs — an adapter for them doesn’t even exist.
It’s almost a tax on using non-Apple accessories, since statistics show there are still far more wired headphones sold than BT, even though BT account for more profits.
An iPhone X can hit 50 percent charge in as little as 30 minutes, but only when using Apple's Lightning to USB-C cable and an adapter with USB-C Power Delivery. That typically means buying a new cable and a MacBook adapter, the cheapest Apple option for the latter being a $49 30-watt unit.
I'm so sick of hearing this $49 figure. Every discussion of iPhone charging should mention the 12W charger. That's really the right default recommendation. Let's change the narrative on this.
The $19 12W charger hits 40 percent in 30 minutes, only slightly behind the USB-C options -- and double the speed of the bundled 5W charger.
That really should be the default recommendation when purchasing an iPhone. Spend more if you want but $19 for 2X the charging speed is an extremely good value.
Why is it so difficult for Apple to provide a 12W charger by default with the $650+ iPhones? Especially the X-series? $1,100 and I get a garbage charger? Anything to save a buck.
Why assume this is Apple saying a buck when they'd adjust the price for any HW that takes them out of their ideal profit ratio?
Because it's the same company who caved and sold $79 batteries for $29.
An iPhone X can hit 50 percent charge in as little as 30 minutes, but only when using Apple's Lightning to USB-C cable and an adapter with USB-C Power Delivery. That typically means buying a new cable and a MacBook adapter, the cheapest Apple option for the latter being a $49 30-watt unit.
I'm so sick of hearing this $49 figure. Every discussion of iPhone charging should mention the 12W charger. That's really the right default recommendation. Let's change the narrative on this.
The $19 12W charger hits 40 percent in 30 minutes, only slightly behind the USB-C options -- and double the speed of the bundled 5W charger.
That really should be the default recommendation when purchasing an iPhone. Spend more if you want but $19 for 2X the charging speed is an extremely good value.
Why is it so difficult for Apple to provide a 12W charger by default with the $650+ iPhones? Especially the X-series? $1,100 and I get a garbage charger? Anything to save a buck.
Apple provides a 12W charger by default with a $329 iPad, so excluding it from a $1,100 iPhone is clearly not to "save a buck".
Clearly Apple is defaulting to the 5W charger because of size. The average iPhone customer values small size and pocket/purse portability over maximum charge speed. If Apple can one day make a fast *and* small charger, no doubt they'll include that.
It's like, do people even think for two seconds about this? Apple's accessories revenue is a pittance of what they make from selling devices. They are aligned with including whatever sells the most iPhones and makes people happiest, not pissing people off. I'm just saying the 12W charger is a great, affordable add-on if you value maximum charge speed. Let's talk about that more, not the $49 option.
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The whole point of a refresh is to improve the phone and make it more useful. That includes the charger as it is an essential part if the setup. Why not improve that element?
As for landfill, there is no reason for chargers to go there and if that is your concern, why not take chargers out of the box and make them a free optional element at purchase.
Printers don't normally come with cables because it is said (do you mind if I use the passive voice here?) that users already have one.
It is completely reasonable to want (expect even) a charger that matches the category of the phone considering its overall price.
I appreciate the idea, but since this is the year they stop selling the last version of a 3.5mm headphone jack phone, they should also include the dongle for this year.
As far as waste, it’s hard to fathom anyone buying a new iPhone does not already have a favorite pair of headphones they’re already using, and would prefer to continue using over a proprietary lower quality pair included in the box, which literally cannot be used with any other audio device, including Apple’s own Macs — an adapter for them doesn’t even exist.
It’s almost a tax on using non-Apple accessories, since statistics show there are still far more wired headphones sold than BT, even though BT account for more profits.
Apple provides a 12W charger by default with a $329 iPad, so excluding it from a $1,100 iPhone is clearly not to "save a buck".
Clearly Apple is defaulting to the 5W charger because of size. The average iPhone customer values small size and pocket/purse portability over maximum charge speed. If Apple can one day make a fast *and* small charger, no doubt they'll include that.
It's like, do people even think for two seconds about this? Apple's accessories revenue is a pittance of what they make from selling devices. They are aligned with including whatever sells the most iPhones and makes people happiest, not pissing people off. I'm just saying the 12W charger is a great, affordable add-on if you value maximum charge speed. Let's talk about that more, not the $49 option.