iPhone XS, XR hands-on: Max is large but light, XR shows major potential

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  • Reply 21 of 23
    radarthekatradarthekat Posts: 3,943moderator
    jcc said:
    jcc said:
    God I hate phablets. Steve did as well. Gone are the days when Cook made fun of Android's fragmentation. He's now in the same boat as he is as clueless about what's good for the customer as the Android folks.
    You have no idea what fragmentation means, do you?

    Poor Cook, just stumbling around blindly as his company rose to become the most successful ever in the history of humankind. Poor guy. You should get him a memo, help the guy out.
    More like you don't. How many different sized screens do we have now for the iPhone? Now, do that count again when Steve was alive when both Steve and Cook made fun of the Android team at every product announcement. So, who's laughing now? Steve is rolling over in his grave.

    Also, money is NOT how you measure future product roadmap. Steve's quote is famously in the lobby of the Apple campus but apparently people walk by it every day not knowing what the hell it means. Let me tell you something sonny, right after Sculley kicked Steve to the curb, he grew Apple for 7 more years until he milked every last drop that he could out of the Apple 2 platform.  It was then all downhill from there and he, in turn, got kicked. The same is happening with Cook. Just because he's able to milk iPhone to great heights doesn't mean that the gravy train won't end someday or soon. You need to ask yourself, what's going to replace the iPhone. The Watch??! Hahahaha! That's really funny!

    So no, you don't know what you're talking about.
    iOS is now a defecto standard and that alone makes all the difference between today’s Apple and the Apple of John Sculley’s day.  And how many models would you suggest Apple make to serve an upgrading user base of about 1 billion users?  
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  • Reply 22 of 23
    jccjcc Posts: 342member

    jcc said:
    jcc said:
    God I hate phablets. Steve did as well. Gone are the days when Cook made fun of Android's fragmentation. He's now in the same boat as he is as clueless about what's good for the customer as the Android folks.
    You have no idea what fragmentation means, do you?

    Poor Cook, just stumbling around blindly as his company rose to become the most successful ever in the history of humankind. Poor guy. You should get him a memo, help the guy out.
    More like you don't. How many different sized screens do we have now for the iPhone? Now, do that count again when Steve was alive when both Steve and Cook made fun of the Android team at every product announcement. So, who's laughing now? Steve is rolling over in his grave.

    Also, money is NOT how you measure future product roadmap. Steve's quote is famously in the lobby of the Apple campus but apparently people walk by it every day not knowing what the hell it means. Let me tell you something sonny, right after Sculley kicked Steve to the curb, he grew Apple for 7 more years until he milked every last drop that he could out of the Apple 2 platform.  It was then all downhill from there and he, in turn, got kicked. The same is happening with Cook. Just because he's able to milk iPhone to great heights doesn't mean that the gravy train won't end someday or soon. You need to ask yourself, what's going to replace the iPhone. The Watch??! Hahahaha! That's really funny!

    So no, you don't know what you're talking about.
    Total nonsense. Having more than one size isn't what makes "fragmentation" a software engineering problem, especially with adaptive-layout. Fragmentation in the android world is the assortment of operating systems, versions, vendors, and hardware that makes it more challenging & expensive to maintain a codebase, leading to abandonment. It's why android handsets, including Google flagships, drop support not long after the products are released. They do not enjoy the developer support nor the lengthy OS-provider support that iOS devices enjoy.

    Sorry son, but I do this for a living. I doubt you do.

    Oh, but you were a close person friend of Jobs, I forgot. How well did you know the man?
    You must not do your job very well then. The size difference between the smallest screens and largest iPhone screens are now getting to be great enough to warrant different design elements just like iPhone vs iPads. The reason you don't use an iPhone design for a larger screen like an iPad mini is self-explanatory. It has nothing to do with adaptive layout and everything to do with good UI design.

    Do you even know the quote I'm referring to?
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  • Reply 23 of 23
    jccjcc Posts: 342member

    jcc said:
    flaneur said:
    jcc said:
    jcc said:
    God I hate phablets. Steve did as well. Gone are the days when Cook made fun of Android's fragmentation. He's now in the same boat as he is as clueless about what's good for the customer as the Android folks.
    You have no idea what fragmentation means, do you?

    Poor Cook, just stumbling around blindly as his company rose to become the most successful ever in the history of humankind. Poor guy. You should get him a memo, help the guy out.
    More like you don't. How many different sized screens do we have now for the iPhone? Now, do that count again when Steve was alive when both Steve and Cook made fun of the Android team at every product announcement. So, who's laughing now? Steve is rolling over in his grave.

    Also, money is NOT how you measure future product roadmap. Steve's quote is famously in the lobby of the Apple campus but apparently people walk by it every day not knowing what the hell it means. Let me tell you something sonny, right after Sculley kicked Steve to the curb, he grew Apple for 7 more years until he milked every last drop that he could out of the Apple 2 platform.  It was then all downhill from there and he, in turn, got kicked. The same is happening with Cook. Just because he's able to milk iPhone to great heights doesn't mean that the gravy train won't end someday or soon. You need to ask yourself, what's going to replace the iPhone. The Watch??! Hahahaha! That's really funny!

    So no, you don't know what you're talking about.
    Apple will turn the iPhone gravy train into an AR virtual hyperspace vehicle that will take you anywhere your eyes and ears want to go. You will wear your phone/computer on your face.
    You better hope so as this gravy train is long in the tooth. You can see how incremental they're changing the models now. Cook is so desperate that he's resorting to playing around with screen sizes in order to get people to buy increasingly more expensive phones in order to keep propping up the stock. For someone who's always talked about not worrying about the stock price or managing quarter to quarter earnings but only on building the best products that sure sounds like a bunch of bull now. He's now fully engaged in managing earnings and getting people to buy more and more expensive machines with gimmicks rather than genuinely innovating.
    You've exposed yourself as somebody ignorant of Apple history. Incremental, iterative development is how they do product development  and have always done product development.  The second Macintosh (the "fat" one) was an incremental update to the original.

    Better analysts than you have noted this. Macworld wrote a piece about it almost ten years ago:

    https://www.macworld.com/article/1151235/macs/apple-rolls.html

    Oh but you're angry at gimmicks! Cool story bro.

    Sure, keep telling yourself that. I guess I'm the only person here that remembers that when Steve was alive the phone case designed changed drastically every 2 years? Then he dies, and we're on the same phone design for double that (6, 6s, 7, 8). How long have we been using the same iMac design???
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