Bluetooth, why is it that half of Jaguar likes Bluetooth but no mac ships with Bluetooth and Apple doesn't even sell a Bluetooth adapter. Why? Why? Why?
i hope so!! i am thinking by back-to-school time we may see some new iBooks and PowerBooks. I sincerely hope they will include bluetooth and a hardware solution to Ink. Once Jag is pre-installed it will be nice to have hardware that compliments all the new features in 10.2
I also hope at this time they move iBook to G4 but something tells me they will not, despite the OS is optimized for it and a lot of other programs. also, anyone else catch that Quartz Extreme only need 16MB now.......
<strong>Bluetooth, why is it that half of Jaguar likes Bluetooth but no mac ships with Bluetooth and Apple doesn't even sell a Bluetooth adapter. Why? Why? Why?</strong><hr></blockquote>
I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you. You see, I know things... like conspicious movie quotes... <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
I think Max's above predictions are good ones. Only thing I would want added to that is a superdrive Powerbook w/ better video card (Radeon 9000) but that will never ever happen on an August timeline. I also predict a tablet, something simple not these super complicated LCD-touchscreen-portable-garage door opener-serving dish-masseus table gizoms everyone is predicting, just an Apple branded tablet to complement Inkwell when released with Jag at the end of August.
it's already a freikn' miracle we got the radeon 7000 (or 7500)....don't expect too much...the current radeon is perfectly fine
and i don't expect to see a superdrive slot load drive that's approx. .75" thin ANYTIME soon. if/when apple get's it, that'll be fine. it's not exactly something that people are clamoring for like with the combo drive
i'd actually like to see a FASTER combo drive that can write maybe 16x. i think that would be a lot more popular with people than the superdrive.
Strange... the XServe still has the new icon... I would be ecstatic if they upgrade the laptops soon. Namely, before college starts >.<; I'm sick of my PC; I should have never switched...
I'm in a holding pattern on a new TiBook for more than a month now. I thought there might have been an upgrade announced at MWNY, or at least a price cut to spur sales, but alas.
All my friends with "connections" (a dubious term at best) are telling me to hold my position as there will be something new and cool "very soon now".
Personally, I want to get a nice laptop with at least a 1Gb processor, a superdrive, killer battery life and a nice screen. Bluetooth might be nice too.
Arggh. The waiting is the hardest part. I will be way pissed if I buy a TiBook only to see a new, faster model released a week later.
<strong>Bluetooth, why is it that half of Jaguar likes Bluetooth but no mac ships with Bluetooth and Apple doesn't even sell a Bluetooth adapter. Why? Why? Why?</strong><hr></blockquote>
There are plenty of USB Bluetooth adapters on the market, from some $50 and upwards. The apple Bluetooth driver is a generic HCI driver that accepts any compliant device (modulo bugs in apple's driver, which probably will be fixed, and bugs in the devices, that may get fixed). Several devices work today, search for it.
Note that some of them, including the D-Link, don't have support for SCO - the synchronous protocol used for headsets and the like. Neither does apple's driver today, but maybe some day it will, or at least a third party could provide it, and then you could for example use your mac as a IP telephone with a bluetooth headset.
[quote] Predicting a tablet might put you close to the truth... <hr></blockquote> you hinting at somin that we don't know Matsu?? Would you like to share with the class?
<strong>Note that some of them, including the D-Link, don't have support for SCO - the synchronous protocol used for headsets and the like... and then you could for example use your mac as a IP telephone with a bluetooth headset.</strong><hr></blockquote>
That would kick major ass! I was originally very lukewarm about Bluetooth, mostly because it interfered with AirPort, but now I can't wait to see it built into all appliances in my house (incl. the Macs).
Has anyone looked at the Apple.com hardware page lately. The G4 Powerbook is not shown as one of the products in the grid on top. Who knows maybe it's a sign that they are coming soon to an Apple Store near us. (At least we can that they will be)
Well if Apple really likes symmetry, they can move the iBook to something like you described above, and slot the eBook below it, with basically an updated iBook architecture w/ G3 and 12.1" screen. Then the model matrix would turn out something like this
The only way Apple would be able to really target the prosumer with the iMac is if they at least made the graphics chip upgradeable, plus a 133mhz bus and maybe an upgradeable processor too. I really don't see why this would be so hard or bad. Whatever, it makes sense to me.
It doesn't look like PM prices will fall any time soon, so there is certainly room for another models between the top iBook and the bottom TiBook, even if the have to juggle the names a bit.
A look at the desktop line-up shows a nice spread of prices from 799 to 2999 in pretty even increments, and a touch of overlap at the high-end where you can choose base on features or expansion (and in the not too distant future, speed). They could do the same with the laptop line.
Personally, I suggest a DuoBook (with a hybrid iBook/TiBook look) kind of a powerbook neutered in reverse. No dual display, but higher res closed book operation. Sells between the iBook and PowerBook. Give the powerbooks DVD-r and you're set.
iBooks: G3, 12/14", combo, XGA mirror only display ($1799 max)
Duo: G4, 13.3" (1152x864), combo, closed book DVI-out operation above XGA (2099, one model)
TiBooks: faster G4, 15.2 (1440x960) combo/superdrive, larger HDD, and full video spanning. (2499 and up, superdrives starting at 2999)
They just need to bump the Ti a little more (faster G4, more res) to make some feature headroom for a middle line-up. Easy.
<strong>Personally, I suggest a DuoBook (with a hybrid iBook/TiBook look) kind of a powerbook neutered in reverse. No dual display, but higher res closed book operation.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Matsu: When you said DuoBook, my heart jumped. But I pictured a 3 lbs sub-PowerBook with a Duo-style dock. My ideal 'Book has been the same for so many years...
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I can see an update soon. Bluetooth would be great to integrate.. but I've heard bluetooth might be coming to airport 2 in 2003...
the powerbook is amazing right now. All that's needed is a spec update, bluetooth and superdrive to make it super amazing.
-1 ghz imacs (only on the 17" widescreen model; everything else would be 933 or 867)
-ibooks reach 800 mhz (still G3)
-powerbooks will reach ghz, with DDR
-emacs stay at 700 mhz; now the combo drive model doesn't conflict with the imac
these are my reasonable predictions that i hope come to pass. if they don't, i don't particullary mind becuase I HAVE NO MONEY
I also hope at this time they move iBook to G4 but something tells me they will not, despite the OS is optimized for it and a lot of other programs. also, anyone else catch that Quartz Extreme only need 16MB now.......
Could we see a 1Ghz nForce2 based Powerbook anytime soon?
Edit: Grammer!
[ 07-18-2002: Message edited by: Blackcat ]</p>
<strong>Bluetooth, why is it that half of Jaguar likes Bluetooth but no mac ships with Bluetooth and Apple doesn't even sell a Bluetooth adapter. Why? Why? Why?</strong><hr></blockquote>
I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you. You see, I know things... like conspicious movie quotes... <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
and i don't expect to see a superdrive slot load drive that's approx. .75" thin ANYTIME soon. if/when apple get's it, that'll be fine. it's not exactly something that people are clamoring for like with the combo drive
i'd actually like to see a FASTER combo drive that can write maybe 16x. i think that would be a lot more popular with people than the superdrive.
[ 07-19-2002: Message edited by: Animaniac ]</p>
All my friends with "connections" (a dubious term at best) are telling me to hold my position as there will be something new and cool "very soon now".
Personally, I want to get a nice laptop with at least a 1Gb processor, a superdrive, killer battery life and a nice screen. Bluetooth might be nice too.
Arggh. The waiting is the hardest part. I will be way pissed if I buy a TiBook only to see a new, faster model released a week later.
<strong>Bluetooth, why is it that half of Jaguar likes Bluetooth but no mac ships with Bluetooth and Apple doesn't even sell a Bluetooth adapter. Why? Why? Why?</strong><hr></blockquote>
There are plenty of USB Bluetooth adapters on the market, from some $50 and upwards. The apple Bluetooth driver is a generic HCI driver that accepts any compliant device (modulo bugs in apple's driver, which probably will be fixed, and bugs in the devices, that may get fixed). Several devices work today, search for it.
Note that some of them, including the D-Link, don't have support for SCO - the synchronous protocol used for headsets and the like. Neither does apple's driver today, but maybe some day it will, or at least a third party could provide it, and then you could for example use your mac as a IP telephone with a bluetooth headset.
[ 07-19-2002: Message edited by: jerk ]</p>
<strong>Note that some of them, including the D-Link, don't have support for SCO - the synchronous protocol used for headsets and the like... and then you could for example use your mac as a IP telephone with a bluetooth headset.</strong><hr></blockquote>
That would kick major ass! I was originally very lukewarm about Bluetooth, mostly because it interfered with AirPort, but now I can't wait to see it built into all appliances in my house (incl. the Macs).
Escher
"rugged" like an iBook
slot load combo from Ti
a smaller widescreen (like 13.3 or something)
bluetooth
trackpad that doubles as an Inkwell tablet
obvious specs
G4
40 or 60 GB
min 256 memory
16 or 32 mb radeon 7500
airport
and they can price it right between the iBook and Ti
Well if Apple really likes symmetry, they can move the iBook to something like you described above, and slot the eBook below it, with basically an updated iBook architecture w/ G3 and 12.1" screen. Then the model matrix would turn out something like this
Desktop: eMac-consumer, iMac-prosumer, PowerMac-professional.
Laptop: eBook-consumer etc.
The only way Apple would be able to really target the prosumer with the iMac is if they at least made the graphics chip upgradeable, plus a 133mhz bus and maybe an upgradeable processor too. I really don't see why this would be so hard or bad. Whatever, it makes sense to me.
[ 07-20-2002: Message edited by: hotboxd ]</p>
A look at the desktop line-up shows a nice spread of prices from 799 to 2999 in pretty even increments, and a touch of overlap at the high-end where you can choose base on features or expansion (and in the not too distant future, speed). They could do the same with the laptop line.
Personally, I suggest a DuoBook (with a hybrid iBook/TiBook look) kind of a powerbook neutered in reverse. No dual display, but higher res closed book operation. Sells between the iBook and PowerBook. Give the powerbooks DVD-r and you're set.
iBooks: G3, 12/14", combo, XGA mirror only display ($1799 max)
Duo: G4, 13.3" (1152x864), combo, closed book DVI-out operation above XGA (2099, one model)
TiBooks: faster G4, 15.2 (1440x960) combo/superdrive, larger HDD, and full video spanning. (2499 and up, superdrives starting at 2999)
They just need to bump the Ti a little more (faster G4, more res) to make some feature headroom for a middle line-up. Easy.
<strong>Personally, I suggest a DuoBook (with a hybrid iBook/TiBook look) kind of a powerbook neutered in reverse. No dual display, but higher res closed book operation.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Matsu: When you said DuoBook, my heart jumped. But I pictured a 3 lbs sub-PowerBook with a Duo-style dock. My ideal 'Book has been the same for so many years...
Escher