I appreciate the tenor and informative nature of your posts. Growing up in a country (exclusive of the tenants that already occupied it) not much over 200yrs old, it's easy to fail to appreciate real, extensive history, aside from geography.
Thank you for taking the time to inform us and supply details. Much appreciated.
I truly dislike the look of the rounded edged roof. I think the new rendering shows a much finer esthetic akin to the bauhaus movement, just more reserved.
I've eaten at that TGI Fridays. An Apple Store and surrounding aesthetic upgrade would be a vast improvement for that area.
Maybe I'm missing something, but the opposition to the store seems shallow and petty.
What prompted you to eat at one of Amercia’s crappiest restaurants...in Sweden? (I’ve been to Sweden as well so the thought of eating at TGIF’s there is perplexing)
First of all it wouldn’t be one building replacing another building; there would be changes to the surrounding open park area.
Secondly, replacing a food business with a business selling tech hardware could easily be argued to further limit the availability of space for people to just relax and enjoy the open park area.
The truth is that I favor the plan, but tbh it’s only because it’s Apple… It’s all due to me liking the brand and style; and I’m not sure if that should be enough to like these plans.
Thanks for adding some details. I am typiclly impressed with how most european communities get involved with things like this and try to exert influence over changes to their cities and towns. Americans, to generalize, don't care much about this sort of thing. That is why so much of our architectural history has been demolished and replaced with semi-disposable buildings. It's also why our cities are so poorly designed and hard to get around in. I live in Austin where people do try to get involved with this sort of thing, but the big money (plus bought & paid for state government) frequently override the wishes of the citizens on these matters. Austin is rapidly being transformed into city that is a lot less desirable than it just recently was. i know all cities face these issues, but it is nice to see Stockholm locals stand up and say they aren't happy with the plan - and actually be listened to.
When it comes to wanting preserve areas I feel that it's in part about perspective…
You guys usually think that your declaration of independence happened a long time ago; but 5 five minutes by bike from where I live there's a building that was 150 years old already at that time. 5 minutes in the opposite direction and there's a mound created around the year 1000; and 15 minutes by bike in yet another direction there are burial mounds from the 5th and 6th centuries.
The student nation that I belonged to when at Uppsala University is something like 380 years old; and the university itself was founded in 1477. (Still not the oldest school in town though, the gymnasium/high school I attended dates back to 1246.)
It's not like everything is saved and "everywhere", but there's enough of it for it to be sort of a normal part of growing up here. You get more aware about history; and more aware about how parts of that needs to be saved instead of "developed" and commercialised.
somehow I'm missing the historical relevance of TGIF, a noisy, very heavy traffic location, always more than a few inebriated "guests" roaming the streets. How far is the aesthetically pleasing TGIF from the 1000 year old mound or the burial mounds from 5th century. <sarcasm intended> but response appreciated.
Silly comment. His reply was to another talking about why the mentality in Europe and Scandinavia may be different than ours in the US — age, and the prevalence of old things including buildings and organizations. He didn’t mention this project specifically.
Sounds like someone’s palm isn’t getting greased to me... and Denmark isn’t exactly awash in high tech either.
Just my $0.02
Sorry, that withdrawal got denied when you started flexing your extensive knowledge of what’s happening in Sweden by talking about Denmark.
Back to geography school you go…
Well said. He meant Stockholm hehe. Oh well...
He’d still be wrong. Stockholm has tech. Ever heard of Spotify? Bluetooth? Ericsson? All came from Stockholm. Oops.
Ericsson, along with many other brands characterised by a glorius past, but rather bleak present, is a perfect example of how steep a price one often has to pay for a stubbornly conservative mindset
Are Apple products not popular in Sweden? Regardless if this is the "right" spot or not, I'd imagine most Swede's would appreciate a direct presence by Apple in their capital
Are Apple products not popular in Sweden? Regardless if this is the "right" spot or not, I'd imagine most Swede's would appreciate a direct presence by Apple in their capital
“Most” Swedes probably don’t care that much about it. We already have three Apple stores; one of which technically is in Stockholm already.
Sounds like someone’s palm isn’t getting greased to me... and Denmark isn’t exactly awash in high tech either.
Just my $0.02
Even ignoring your geographical gaffe, do look up all three countries in the global corruption index.
Please don’t apply American standards to countries ranked much higher in public integrity. Denmark is in second place, with Sweden in sixth place. The United States are at 16.
But that’s just because somebody didn’t get paid off, I presume.
I've eaten at that TGI Fridays. An Apple Store and surrounding aesthetic upgrade would be a vast improvement for that area.
Maybe I'm missing something, but the opposition to the store seems shallow and petty.
What prompted you to eat at one of Amercia’s crappiest restaurants...in Sweden? (I’ve been to Sweden as well so the thought of eating at TGIF’s there is perplexing)
Not sure why it matters. I'm not claiming it was the highlight of my trip. But if you must know, it was mostly just a convenient place to stop for a beer at the time. It's roughly half-way between a lot of the hostels and the old town/castle/etc.
And why the hate? No one is pretending TGI Friday's is fine dining, but it's not bad either.
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Thank you for taking the time to inform us and supply details. Much appreciated.
Also, us Swedes are quite active when it comes to doing startups in China, Silicon Valley, Berlin, Barcelona etc.
Please don’t apply American standards to countries ranked much higher in public integrity. Denmark is in second place, with Sweden in sixth place. The United States are at 16.
But that’s just because somebody didn’t get paid off, I presume.
Two cents just don’t cut it, these days.