TiBook Update

24

Comments

  • Reply 21 of 68
    ast3r3xast3r3x Posts: 5,012member
    oh it will work, and on only (4) 9V batteries, now i think it might drain them all at once but it will work <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
  • Reply 22 of 68
    Okay, Im going to throw in my three cents.



    Most likely we'll see an update to the TiBook line in Sept. But If you like the products out now, and feel it worth the money, then don't wait.



    For the past month and a half I've been deciding between an iBook and a Powerbook. I too am a student and I could afford either, but today I put in the order for the 12" 700MHz iBook with all the extras (except for RAM, which I'll grab from <a href="http://eshop.macsales.com/Catalog_Item.cfm?ID=3762&Item=OWC100SO512328L"; target="_blank">OWC</a>).



    Since we are in the same boat, I'll explain my decision.



    a) DVD issues. DVD playback is more consistent on the iBook. The TiBook has problems with s-video out with DVDs and also DVD's with interlacing (ones recorded from 30FPS video) The fix will reportedly come by the end of summer, but I have waited long enough.



    b) Durability. The iBook can take more wear and tear. I'm not a business man going from meeting to meeting. I'm a student who <a href="http://www.sector9.com/"; target="_blank">longboards</a> to and from school and ocassionally between classes. The last thing I want to think about while bombing down a hill its if I fall, even my padded computer bag won't protect my 'Book.



    c) Processing power. What do you need the G4 800 for that a G3 700 can't do. Sorry I don't buy this Mac OS X "sluggish" deal. I currently have a G3 300 (beige) and I can use that with out much aggrevation. Plus the Radeon with 16MB should be able to use Jaguar fine. Now if you plan on using Maya, or Final Cut Pro and any other super heavy app I suggest saving the money and getting a desktop.



    d) Heat displacement. My girlfriend is REALLY looking forward to snuggling up in bed and watching a DVD movie or two. I don't want to ruin the mood by having a scorching laptop giving us sweating laps before we start to "work-out".



    e) Battery life. It's better on the iBook, and whats the point of a laptop that constantly need to be plugged in? (I know, the PB is good with batteries too, just not AS good)



    f) Screen size. The TiBook easily beats the iBook here. The way I work I want as much space as possible. But alas, I think I'll just have to get used to the 1024x768 res.



    g) Cost. The best thing about the little iBook. I know can affor to get the best one, max it out with a 40GB HDD, iPod, 640MB RAM, get the Apple Protection Plan and even a couple apps for the same price of the CHEAPEST TiBook. That still gives me enough money to buy the <a href="http://www.turntablelab.com/quickshots/quickshot-mk3/quickshot-mk3.html"; target="_blank">things</a> I <a href="http://www.hondamotorcycle.com/models/2002/index.html?model_number=CHF50"; target="_blank">want</a>.



    So there you have it. Plus if something new and great comes out (read: new PowerMacs), you won't feel like such a dolt if you start to save up for it too.



    But the choice is yours. Like I said, I've been struggling with the same decision for a while now so really either one is a great one.



    I hope this helps.



    Peace.



    (Please just ignore any spelling of grammarical errors, this was a large post and I don't really want to proof read it. Thanks.)
  • Reply 23 of 68
    rogue27rogue27 Posts: 607member
    I would choose the iBook, base $1500 configuration, and then get 256 or 512 more RAM from <a href="http://www.macsales.com"; target="_blank">www.macsales.com</a>



    don't buy on pricewatch, a lot of the stuff they sell is shit. the place I gave a link for tests all of the ram to make sure it actually works well in a mac and meets apple's specifications.



    The iBook with RAM would probably be about $1750, leaving you with an extra $1000 to have fun with and buy other things. Whatever you buy, you'll be tempted with newer and better computers all the time and after a couple years you'll probably want to get a new one. Since the iBook costs much less, you won't feel as bad when you end up replacing it with a newer computer.
  • Reply 24 of 68
    apple.otaku



    "Please note you cannot upgrade the processor in a laptop like you can with a desktop. You are stuck with what you get from the very start."



    ________________



    Don't buy it...

    <a href="http://www.sonnettech.com/product/crescendo_ws.html"; target="_blank">http://www.sonnettech.com/product/crescendo_ws.html</a>; <img src="graemlins/embarrassed.gif" border="0" alt="[Embarrassed]" />



    Get the fastest book you can, then budget for more RAM
  • Reply 25 of 68
    [quote]Originally posted by ast3r3x:



    <strong>

    If anyone wants to buy a handheld electromagnetic pulse emitter I'm making them and be glad to sell you one assuming I don't get in trouble for you destroying things with it. *(for those of you who do not know wat that is, think of an electron bomb for electronics...also this is small enough to fit in your pocket and goes 2-24in)*</strong><hr></blockquote>



    <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />



    Maybe you should put your efforts into building something that is not destructive. This sounds like something a terrorist would want. Not a very smart thing to be selling, especially in this day and age.
  • Reply 26 of 68
    [quote]Originally posted by Alaskan66:

    <strong>



    Don't buy it...

    <a href="http://www.sonnettech.com/product/crescendo_ws.html"; target="_blank">http://www.sonnettech.com/product/crescendo_ws.html</a>; <img src="graemlins/embarrassed.gif" border="0" alt="[Embarrassed]" />



    </strong><hr></blockquote>



    There is no upgrade path for the PowerBook G4 as the processor is soldered to the motherboard...
  • Reply 27 of 68
    Can anyone really see the difference in the TiBook 667 vs the 800? I did my own benchmarks at an apple store one, on how long it took to open photoshop, and they were simultaneous almost every time, with the 667 even beating the 800 a couple of times. Is the couple extra Mhz worth the huge price upgrade?
  • Reply 28 of 68
    That is the most assanine thing I have ever read. You call visually timing how fast two computers open photoshop a benchmark?? You truly should be beaten with a wet noodle. Due to your obvious lack of sense I will not go into why the 800mhz is faster but will assure you that numerous sites report it is quite a bit quicker. But I am sure all of their advanced and specialized testing using actual specs, FPS comparisons, and real renders are not nearly as reliable or accurate as your highly advanced and scientific methods.
  • Reply 29 of 68
    warpdwarpd Posts: 204member
    [quote] You truly should be beaten with a wet noodle. <hr></blockquote> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> Really nice!!
  • Reply 30 of 68
    ast3r3xast3r3x Posts: 5,012member
    I know visually isn'tn accturate but why? I know that you can have it professionally benchmarked, but why? I'm not trying to be an a$$ but isn't that what would matter normally, in a series of visual tests, which is open and ready for first? If somoen has reasons why you please explain becaues I am curious. <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
  • Reply 31 of 68
    ast3r3xast3r3x Posts: 5,012member
    Terroristic?! It doesnt go more then 24inches max. and I don't see mass destruction caused from a device of this kind, its not something you couldn't build...just you don't know how
  • Reply 32 of 68
    [quote]Originally posted by ast3r3x:



    <strong>Terroristic?! It doesnt go more then 24inches max. and I don't see mass destruction caused from a device of this kind, its not something you couldn't build...just you don't know how </strong><hr></blockquote>



    Its still illegal and could cause plenty of damage in the wrong hands. I can't imagine a legit purpose for having one of these.
  • Reply 33 of 68
    ast3r3xast3r3x Posts: 5,012member
    [quote]Originally posted by apple.otaku:

    <strong>



    Its still illegal and could cause plenty of damage in the wrong hands. I can't imagine a legit purpose for having one of these.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    There are alot of things people shouldn't have but do. Why do people have access to hand guns? Not too many people hunt with a handgun so what else is there to do with it?...shoot PEOPLE. I think the government and others should be more worried about that then somthing miniature i'm building that they are too researching (the government that is) <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
  • Reply 34 of 68
    [quote]Originally posted by ast3r3x:

    <strong>

    If anyone wants to buy a handheld electromagnetic pulse emitter I'm making them and be glad to sell you one assuming I don't get in trouble for you destroying things with it. *(for those of you who do not know wat that is, think of an electron bomb for electronics...also this is small enough to fit in your pocket and goes 2-24in)*



    [ 07-18-2002: Message edited by: ast3r3x ]</strong><hr></blockquote>



    No thanks, I have a pacemaker (Although I am 17)...

    :eek:
  • Reply 35 of 68
    tomahawktomahawk Posts: 152member
    First, a side comment. Handguns do have proper uses! I dare you to spend some quality time up in certain areas of the mountains without a handgun or Grizzly pepper spray! For camping, I want both.



    Second. Consider getting the laptop from someone other than Apple. Apple WILL charge tax! Ya, shipping is free but tax sucks. I don't know if it is on computers or not but Amazon is doing free shipping depending how much you spend right now. MUCH cheaper.
  • Reply 36 of 68
    ast3r3xast3r3x Posts: 5,012member
    Everyone is being so helpful
  • Reply 37 of 68
    [quote]Originally posted by imacman287:

    <strong>



    No thanks, I have a pacemaker (Although I am 17)...

    :eek: </strong><hr></blockquote>



    I hadn't even thought of that one. That's disturbing. Unlike a handgun, there is only one purpose for such a device. It doesn't protect you or your familiy. You either use it to do something bad or you don't and I doubt anyone would buy one just to stare at it.



    Anyway, on the subject of new PowerBooks, I would just get it from one of the Mac retailers like MacZone or MacMall. Its quite a savings.
  • Reply 38 of 68
    ast3r3xast3r3x Posts: 5,012member
    How often have you had to use ur handgun? How far does the pepper spray go, I wouldn't want to get as close as normal pepper sprays shoot!



    I don't plan on causing any mass destruction....or even little destruction, I just want to have one for the sole purpose that its awesome to have. I'll destroy some of my stuff with it yeah but what does it matter if its mine?



    Come on, ok it is kinda pointless but the cool factor...don't you think it would at least be cool to have this? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
  • Reply 39 of 68
    o iborgo iborg Posts: 14member
    Early 2002 I replaced my WallStreet 292 with a 500 Mhz Combo iBook. Due to a nice deal, for the same money I was able to get the 600 Mhz DVD iBook just 1.5 month later. It was remarkable faster than the 500 Mhz iBook.



    But still, I wasnt satisfied, and never ran OSX on it as it was just too slow for me. I like it fast. So, 3 weeks ago I traded the iBook for a Ti800.



    Weeheeee!!



    Now this is fast enough for a while! Its a tremendous difference! Its certainly not about the 133MHz bus, its about the Radeon M7, the MPX bus and the fine L3 cache.



    The experience has been overwhelming so far. I dont know whats bad on it other than its not a Dual thinggie with a R300 in it



    It made me switch to X actually, as its really fast. It has two fans and it gets so hot when you really use it you dont want to have it on yer knees. Really. Hehe, you don't burn your legs, but its gets uncomfortable hot. No matter, its been design this way. Finally the HD is *away* from the heat. The heatpipes inside are well designed. The fans are *very* silent, as is the HD. You get around 60 FPS fullscreen in Quake3, and genies are supersmooth.



    Its also the first mac ever that I havent had to expand right on the first day, its 512MB and 40GB are enough for now. Its seems faster than my QS733 running at 933 (Radeon1, no L2).



    Jaguar is incredible on it!



    So, is that enough uptalking?



    Dont take me wrong, I loved the iBook, but performance wise, I tend to prefer Computers with ni "i" in front of their name...
  • Reply 40 of 68
    [quote]Originally posted by ast3r3x:

    <strong>Ok well i'm 16, and by the end of summer I will have about $3000 from my summer job. I'm trying to stay under 2750 so I can have money for shipping left. So can I have suggestions on what hardware I should get or which of the following is better:



    PBook G4 667MHz

    -512 RAM

    -30GB

    -Combo Drive

    -Extra Battery



    iBook

    -640 RAM

    -40GB

    -Combo

    -iPod (10 GB)

    -Extra Battery



    I know I can always upgrade the G4 later, but can anyone tell me if the speed difference and screen size is worth the 10GB difference in the HD, a 10GB iPod, 128MB RAM?



    [ 07-18-2002: Message edited by: ast3r3x ]</strong><hr></blockquote>



    New PowerBooks will be announced between August 13-24. you can also buy a USB based bluetooth card for existing powerbooks. imagine that next rev will have bluetooth built in and Irda stripped out esp with rendezvouz.
Sign In or Register to comment.