Apple Digital Editing from VCRer.

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in General Discussion edited January 2014
Ok, I know about the Dazzle $280 editing connector but I am looking for a little cheaper way to get video from my VCR into my Powerbook. I need to get home videos from when I was a child in there by Mother's Day and I don't know what the best, cheap tool is to get the video into the computer. I know how to edit it but just not get it in there. Someone please help!
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  • Reply 1 of 23
    objra10objra10 Posts: 679member
    Go buy a nice Digital Camera. Then plug your vcr into the Video in on the camera, push record. When done recording, capture into your mac via firewire like the rest of the world does.



    This way, in the future, you'll be prepared to shoot in DV and not ever have to worry about this again.
  • Reply 2 of 23
    objra10objra10 Posts: 679member
    by the way, this should probably be in genius bar... support related. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[oyvey]" />
  • Reply 3 of 23
    nebagakidnebagakid Posts: 2,692member
    well, it will probably not cost you less than the Dazzle, however, there are also services that will put home movies from VHS onto DVD, and maybe CD (i donno).... But, yeah, you could buy a digital camcorder, get a good one for a good investment...) <img src="graemlins/cancer.gif" border="0" alt="[cancer]" /> <img src="graemlins/cancer.gif" border="0" alt="[cancer]" /> <img src="graemlins/cancer.gif" border="0" alt="[cancer]" />
  • Reply 4 of 23
    [quote]Originally posted by OBJRA10:

    <strong>by the way, this should probably be in genius bar... support related.</strong><hr></blockquote>Nope. Looks like purchasing advice to me. It stays.



    Anyhow, I'd generally second the advice of getting a digital camera and using it like a bridge. Just remember when getting a digital cam that you won't need nor use all the fancy digital effects and titling tools that they'll try to sell you on the higher-up models.
  • Reply 5 of 23
    murbotmurbot Posts: 5,262member
    Well Brad, the one that the salesman was trying to sell me the other day could put words and stuff right on the screen! Seemed like a good deal for an extra $50.
  • Reply 6 of 23
    mimacmimac Posts: 872member
    Yes, buy a digital camera that has a play through facility (most DV cams should have this).

    Connect A/V leads and Firewire to the cam and set to VIDEO, and while playing on your VCR, capture via iMovie as it "plays through" the cam.

    Saves time copying to DV tape and re-playing to your Mac



    This feature has the added bonus of being able to record TV programs to iMovie as they air.



    [ 01-28-2003: Message edited by: MiMac ]</p>
  • Reply 7 of 23
    objra10objra10 Posts: 679member
    Okay Brad... I was wrong...





    anyway, I suggest recording to DV since you can do it while you capture so that in case you decide not to capture all of it, you still have it on tape so that you don't have to go through the process later.
  • Reply 8 of 23
    jpp1cdjpp1cd Posts: 135member
    [quote]Originally posted by OBJRA10:

    <strong>Go buy a nice Digital Camera. Then plug your vcr into the Video in on the camera, push record. When done recording, capture into your mac via firewire like the rest of the world does.



    This way, in the future, you'll be prepared to shoot in DV and not ever have to worry about this again.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I like how it is my fault that in the 80's my parents shot home video on 8 mm film. I mean seriously, how would I have been prepared for this. I'm actually looking for a 3mp digital camera right now. I would like to spend like 299 on it as then I can have my girlfriend buy it for me but I am open to any suggestions.
  • Reply 9 of 23
    objra10objra10 Posts: 679member
    I don't remember saying anywhere that it was your fault. Why did you read it that way? I simply gave you the best answer that would additionally present you with a great solution so that in the future you would never have this problem again. Don't be so sensitive. You asked for help, and I gave you the best answer that would hopefully fit your needs.



    If you only want to spend $300 fine, you get what you pay for, and you're not going to get much. A pinnacle or dazzle card is less than that, and will do what you want, but will look really lousy compared to the slightly more expensive alternatives.
  • Reply 10 of 23
    objra10objra10 Posts: 679member
    Furthermore, if this is from the 80's then they certainly didn't shoot on Digital 8 which is what you told us. IF they shot on film, then a VCR wouldn't work anyway. How about you give us a better idea of what you need done so we can actually answer you.



    Is it VHS, Beta, Digital 8, Hi8, 8mm FILM, What?



    There are huge differences here, and the cost differences are incredible.
  • Reply 11 of 23
    jpp1cdjpp1cd Posts: 135member
    I never said Digital 8. Sorry I was so sensitive but I read it as you were telling me something way different then you said. No big deal. I said 8 mm and that is what it was. We still have the camera actually. But my brother had them transfered to VCR last Mother's Day and now I'm going to put it on DVD for next Mother's Day and rearrange the movies and put songs in.
  • Reply 12 of 23
    jpp1cdjpp1cd Posts: 135member
    And I did go out and get a digital camera today. I got the Olympus C-4000 for the price of the Olympus D-550. It was a difference of almost $200 but Office Max did it because the D-550 was in the circular and they had the C-4000 as the substitute. It was great. I am going to use that now to transfer the video correct? Do I just hook up the VCR to the camera and then up to my Mac?
  • Reply 13 of 23
    mimacmimac Posts: 872member
    Use this... <a href="http://www.creativemac.com/2001/04_apr/reviews/dazzledvbridge/dazzledvbridge-page1.htm"; target="_blank">DV bridge</a> as a cheap fix, but still plenty useful.



    OR, Use a Digital8 camcorder by the likes of Sony to convert your footage (slightly more expensive but some good deals to be found).

    <a href="http://www.techtronics.com/files/sony-digital8-faq.html"; target="_blank">FAQs on Digital8</a>



    OR. if you don't want to commit to buying Digital8 just now, get a loaner OR buy one from a chainstore with a full refund policy - use to convert - then if you don't want to keep it just return it!
  • Reply 14 of 23
    mimacmimac Posts: 872member
    * double post *



    [ 01-29-2003: Message edited by: MiMac ]</p>
  • Reply 15 of 23
    spookyspooky Posts: 504member
    you could always try a video transcoder like the Miglia Directors Cut take 2. it plugs into the firewire port of your mac (host powered) and then allows you to connect a vcr/camera etc into the input and then import as if it were a fireweire device. it also has 2 video/audio outputs so you can output back to vcr or viw it on a large monitor as well.



    we have one (as well as some miniDV cams) and its great for around £199 gb pounds
  • Reply 16 of 23
    overhopeoverhope Posts: 1,123member
    jpp1cd, I hope I'm being really stupid here, but from a quick websearch it looks like the camera you've bought is a digital still camera. This isn't going to do the job, since it doesn't have any sort of video interface, let alone a Firewire output to your Mac.



    Reading back through the thread, I think there's been a degree of talk at cross-purposes, largely around the lack of the word video in relation to digital cameras.



    I really hope I've got this wrong, or it's not too late... <img src="graemlins/surprised.gif" border="0" alt="[surprised]" />
  • Reply 17 of 23
    murbotmurbot Posts: 5,262member
    *jaw drops and hits keyboard*



    Like. Oh my god.



    I hope you're just messing with OBJRA10 for saying to "buy a nice digital camera".



    [ 01-29-2003: Message edited by: murbot ]</p>
  • Reply 18 of 23
    overhopeoverhope Posts: 1,123member
    Much as I'd like it to be otherwise, I was looking at <a href="http://www.steves-digicams.com/2002_reviews/c4000.html"; target="_blank">this page all about the Olympus C-4000</a>.



    Sort of doesn't look like a video camera to me:







    I think the key passage was "I'm actually looking for a 3mp digital camera right now"...



    jpp1cd, get back to us, would you?



    [ 01-29-2003: Message edited by: Overhope ]



    just helping your image placement... - murbot



    [ 01-29-2003: Message edited by: murbot ]</p>
  • Reply 19 of 23
    jante99jante99 Posts: 539member
    Hey you could take a picture of each frame with the camera and carefully recombine everything in Final Cut Express. It would take years to do but it would be cheap, painful, and show how much devotion you have to your mom.



    No matter what you do it is going to cost a couple of hundred dollars. Try buying a DV camera on e-Bay. You don't have to worry if it shoots video you just have to make sure the video input works.
  • Reply 20 of 23
    jpp1cdjpp1cd Posts: 135member
    No I was actually looking for a digital camera. I thought maybe that I could do it with that but I know I can't. I wanted the d-550 more than anything but then I got the c-4000 for the same price. I didn't really care if that would get my tapes in as that is not why I bought it. I bought it cause my girlfriend gave me the money for Christmas to buy one since the 550 was out of stock and now I bought this. I do not want a digital camcorder right now in my life so I will have to find another way. I'm thinking probably just take the VHS tapes to a camera place and get them to put it on DVD for me so that I can then get it on my computer. You guys had nothing to do with me getting the digital camera. Just a random thing that I got it today also. I figured I might as well ask if there was a way for me to do it but I guess not. I thought there might be a way to feed the video through the camera but when I read I saw that wasn't possible. Thanks for the advice and don't freak out that I bought the camera. It wasn't anyone here's fault.
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