Microsoft Office apps updated with support for latest macOS Mojave features including Dark...

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  • Reply 21 of 26

    lkrupp said:
    MplsP said:
    I'm trying to figure out what the big deal is with dark mode. I tried it - things looked different and often times it mad ether interface lest clear. (ex: try to tell if you're in a private browsing window in safari with dark mode!) In the end it really didn't matter and I switched it back. Beyond that, I have to use Outlook for work, and man is it a PITA to use!
    But i installed the Office updates without issues and have to say that an Office 365 subscription has worked out well for me and my wife. The 1TB One Drive account included is nice along with Skype.  I don’t mind the subscription model for apps that I use everyday and are important to me for my data and finances, like Quicken. You’re always on the latest version and have little to worry about when it comes to compatibility with macOS or iOS. 
    I do. My copies of Lightroom, Photoshop, Word, (Quicken when I used to use it), are quite old and paid for...if I were paying constantly every month I'd have spent thousands more on them, for the same jobs. It's like leasing a car indefinitely rather than simply buying it outright. For non-enterprise users, we really don't need to pay a monthly lease to have the latest builds of these apps, as the primary functionality is well covered.
    I was updating my Adobe Suite every second version. I worked out the cost of the subscription to be more or less equivalent to what I was paying anyway. That was for the Master Collection though. These days I no longer need half of what's in the Full Meal Deal. In the absence of an affordable way to license only the apps I need I wound up looking elsewhere for most of my creative tools.

    I sure miss InDesign though. Pages is such a toddler's toy.
    edited December 2018
  • Reply 22 of 26
    MplsPMplsP Posts: 1,567member
    Once you go Dark, ….You never go back !!
    Tried it. Went back. Maybe it’s the Jedi in me.
    lkrupp said:
    MplsP said:
    I'm trying to figure out what the big deal is with dark mode. I tried it - things looked different and often times it mad ether interface lest clear. (ex: try to tell if you're in a private browsing window in safari with dark mode!) In the end it really didn't matter and I switched it back. Beyond that, I have to use Outlook for work, and man is it a PITA to use!
    Like so many of these kinds of features its something the design engineers think is cool or some people asked for. I tired dark mode too and soon returned to regular mode. I guess it’s supposed to be easier on the eyes for those who stare at a screen for 10 hours a day or something.

    But i installed the Office updates without issues and have to say that an Office 365 subscription has worked out well for me and my wife. The 1TB One Drive account included is nice along with Skype.  I don’t mind the subscription model for apps that I use everyday and are important to me for my data and finances, like Quicken. You’re always on the latest version and have little to worry about when it comes to compatibility with macOS or iOS. 
    The problem with MS Office is I don’t have that much use for most of it. I occasinoally use a spreadsheet, and mainly need Word to deal with documents from work on a sporadic basis, but there’s no ‘per use’ model for the subscription. You pay the same whether you use it once a month or 8 hours a day.

    Nominally, subscribing or leasing the software comes out similar as paying for intermittent upgrades, but with MS office, they haven’t made any useful or meaningful improvements in it in the last 10 years, as far as I’m concerned, and the interface keeps getting worse. I’m totally happy with my copy of Office 2011. 
    wozwoz
  • Reply 23 of 26
    MplsP said:
    Once you go Dark, ….You never go back !!
    Tried it. Went back. Maybe it’s the Jedi in me.
    lkrupp said:
    MplsP said:
    I'm trying to figure out what the big deal is with dark mode. I tried it - things looked different and often times it mad ether interface lest clear. (ex: try to tell if you're in a private browsing window in safari with dark mode!) In the end it really didn't matter and I switched it back. Beyond that, I have to use Outlook for work, and man is it a PITA to use!
    Like so many of these kinds of features its something the design engineers think is cool or some people asked for. I tired dark mode too and soon returned to regular mode. I guess it’s supposed to be easier on the eyes for those who stare at a screen for 10 hours a day or something.

    But i installed the Office updates without issues and have to say that an Office 365 subscription has worked out well for me and my wife. The 1TB One Drive account included is nice along with Skype.  I don’t mind the subscription model for apps that I use everyday and are important to me for my data and finances, like Quicken. You’re always on the latest version and have little to worry about when it comes to compatibility with macOS or iOS. 
    The problem with MS Office is I don’t have that much use for most of it. I occasinoally use a spreadsheet, and mainly need Word to deal with documents from work on a sporadic basis, but there’s no ‘per use’ model for the subscription. You pay the same whether you use it once a month or 8 hours a day.

    Nominally, subscribing or leasing the software comes out similar as paying for intermittent upgrades, but with MS office, they haven’t made any useful or meaningful improvements in it in the last 10 years, as far as I’m concerned, and the interface keeps getting worse. I’m totally happy with my copy of Office 2011. 
    That 1TB OneDrive per user (you get 5 users with the standard subscription) is a pretty good deal all by itself, but I get the reluctance to pay an on-going subscription for occasional use. For anyone that does not own a copy of Office that does not need any of what might be considered "advanced" features, maybe give the free online version a try. I experimented a bit with the online version a while ago, and they seemed OK, but I really can't speak to how well they work, because I don't use them regularly (I mainly use Office installed on Mac, and occasionally on iOS or Windows VM). Anyway, the price is right...
  • Reply 24 of 26
    wozwozwozwoz Posts: 237member
    I use Dark mode when I become Batman, and especially at night time.
  • Reply 25 of 26
    Dark mode is fantastic and I will never go back. The regular “light” mode just looks obnoxious when toggling it on.
  • Reply 26 of 26
    blah64blah64 Posts: 933member
    I can't offer any opinion on Lightroom or Word as I don't use them, but I can tell you that Photoshop has actually improved a lot since v.6. I hate hate hate the premise of subscription software
    I guess 3 "hates" doesn't really amount to much if you opted in. ;-)

    Seriously, if you really truly hate it you wouldn't have opted into the lets-lure-our-users-in crap they offered with the Photoshop/Lightroom bundle.  Sure, it might sound like a kinda sorta good deal, but it sucks you into their world and will make it harder and harder to quit over time when they decide to increase the price, charge support models, disable older versions from working, etc.

    I'm not really picking on you as much as the entire idiotic world that is enabling (encouraging even) software makers to move from a pay-once model to a pay-forever model.  It angers me because it means there's more and more software that I would be interested in purchasing, but I'll never even have a chance to give it a try because I will never pay for a software subscription.  Ever.  And I say this as a dev myself with decades of experience writing code, selling software and running businesses.

    If people just sat back and didn't fall for the bait for a single product cycle all these companies would have dropped the model like a hot potato.  Instead it's just going to get worse and worse.  So I guess I must hate hate hate hate software subscriptions.


     ("Pay in advance and we'll deliver something at some point, you just won't know what or when or be able to decide if its worth the cost for your uses"), and I cancelled my subscription for the full Adobe CC suite after the discounted first year. Then they offered Photoshop with Lightroom for $10 per month, and I bit.

    I keep wondering if Affinity Photo or Pixelmator might satisfy me (I actually like Affinity Design better than Illustrator), but to know for sure I'd have to do every project twice, so I could compare the results of things like masking hair, edge detection, etc. Who's got time for that?

    Anyway, you might want to give the basic Photoshop/Lightroom subscription a go. It's relatively inexpensive and the product really is better than the last version I owned outright.

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