Mac Pro used to be coming in 2018. But that was in 2017. It's so hard, like, designing computer updates. Especially when you have this amazing round glass building to maintain.
They never once said it was coming in 2018.
True. But we were expecting it then. How long does it take to do this?
It takes as long as it takes for all the components needed are available/developed/integrated and working well together. It takes as long as it takes to get it right. If you expected something from Apple on an imaginary timeline, that's on you. Are you new here?
That’s not an answer. Considering that Apple knew that people weren’t happy, in a good many instances, with what Apple had, back in the end of 2016, from what the timeline appears to be from the transcript of their discussion, they had plenty of time to consider what they could do, fairly quickly, to have a new product that could, conventionaly, give us what we wanted, which was basically, an updated cheese grater case Mac Pro. They didn’t need to do much more than to add pci 3 slots and newer I/O. That would have made a lot of people happy.
then, they could have begun a new project to build the perfect machine, which is what they’re hinting they’re trying to do.
if anyone says that Apple hasn’t enough resources to do several projects in parallel, they’re nuts. Apple can do whatever they want to. The question is whether they want to. Sometimes, just having a good product is enough, you don’t have to reinvent everything all the time.
dont give me that crap about whether I’m new here. If you were nearly as smart as you seem to think you are, you would know how long I’ve been here, but apparently, you’re not. Can the insults, and try to think before you post.
I know enough to know that Apple doesn’t slap together half-assed makeshift updates to legacy machines as a stopgap measure to appease a tiny minority of their user base. You should know that too and adjusted your expectations accordingly, hence the sarcasm.
Apple has been doing just that for decades. My first Mac was bought with a system to scan and edit photos back in 1988. That was for my own company. It cost $250,000 back then. It came with a Mac IIci.
my first personal Mac was bought around the beginning of 1992. It was a Quadra 950. I’m pretty familiar with Apple, likely more so than most on this site. If you were here long enough, you would have read some of my many posts.
yes, I get criticized by a few because I’m not 100% in agreement with every fanboy fantasy. I am realistic. Apple makes mistakes. They’ve been making mistakes from the beginning. Most of their products are irregularly updated models. That’s true of all of them. It’s so obvious that it seems impossible to not know that. My 2012 Mac Pro is a half assed update to the 2010 model. No major improvements, just minor ones. The 2013 Mac Pro hasn’t even been updated in a half assed manner. I read what they said about that, and it’s nonsense.
so we’ve been stuck with either upgrading our cheese grater models as best as possible, or not being able to upgrade the 2013 model other than adding more RAM and newer SSDs. Now, I’ve been one of those saying that many pros don’t seriously upgrade their machines. If they’re really a pro, and not someone doing a little bit of work here and there, and optimistically calling themselves pro, they just buy a new machine every few years, and their accountant writes it off. But, without a “half assed” upgrade every year, that can’t be done, and that the problem.
to remain competitive, you need to maintain your pricing relative to those you’re competing with. So you upgrade. But if there’s no upgrade path, you can’t. So, as an increasing number have been doing, you move, very reluctantly, to a Windows workstation, because cost really isn’t the issue. Time is the issue. And a few thousand in hardware doesn’t matter to a full time working pro. That’s made up in a short while. But if it takes you more time to complete a project, either that means you have no time to take on more work, and you charge the same as your competitor that finishes it sooner, losing money. Or you try to charge more to count the extra time, which, unless you are in a position where your clients think the extra cost is worth it (good luck!), you can’t do.
that’s not good.
all most of us want is more speed. A faster mobo, faster CPUs, faster GPU cards, faster RAM, faster drives, faster I/O and an easy way to install them that doesn’t involve lots of wires, and more room on the desk.. We don’t particularly care about reinventing the wheel. Most pros are not fanboys, these are tools, not consumer toys. We don’t care what it looks like as long as it gets the job done.
I don't know why you're trying to pull the "back in my day" card, I learned LOGO on an Apple II in elementary school and have been using Macs since they were first out as well. I've been around for the entirety of Macintosh.
That said, I get your point but I'm specifically referring to the Apple of today, and they're not about to go back to the cheese grater MP for a stopgap replacement for the trashcan MP just to appease the minority who were left out in the cold. It sucks for that minority, but they'll just have to suck it up and wait for what we hope is a well thought-out replacement, which by all indications from what they've directly said, will be designed for regular updates. You might say their explanation is nonsense, but it makes sense to others such as myself. Many people moved to iMacs, so forth, so this market hasn't been exactly crucial for Apple's survival. It's a niche market, and luckily for you, they found value in rethinking the whole thing.
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That said, I get your point but I'm specifically referring to the Apple of today, and they're not about to go back to the cheese grater MP for a stopgap replacement for the trashcan MP just to appease the minority who were left out in the cold. It sucks for that minority, but they'll just have to suck it up and wait for what we hope is a well thought-out replacement, which by all indications from what they've directly said, will be designed for regular updates. You might say their explanation is nonsense, but it makes sense to others such as myself. Many people moved to iMacs, so forth, so this market hasn't been exactly crucial for Apple's survival. It's a niche market, and luckily for you, they found value in rethinking the whole thing.