IM Convo With A PC Bigot.

mr. macintosh · February 8, 2003 3:42PM

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*i know what im talking about

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*really?

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*how much time do youhave on your hands?

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*i have english to do

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*what is 802.11g networking?

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*go ask jar if you dont belive me

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*i believe you

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*but what is 802.11g?

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*Ridiculous apple thing

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*No

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*What is it?

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*If you dont know this

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*i told u

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*then you dont know much

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*i know enough

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*stop trynig to act like an advertiser

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*I am not

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*you obviously are

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*lol

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*you can never know enough

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*and u really dont know anything

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*it is so obvious

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*all u do is try to inflame

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*you sound so ridiculous

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*you state zero factual evidence

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*tell me what 802.11g is?

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*cant u do that?

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*its quite simple

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*What about a VPN

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*or Multi-Cored Processors

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*is there some reason your asking a bunch of pointless questions right now?

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*or how about just giving up and admitting that you really only know that I like macs and you dont so therefore you try to bring me down

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*i know you like macs

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*Why do you hate Macs anyway?

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*when did i say u didn't

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*they are for the simple-minded

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*and are ridiculous

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*that is a stereotype

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*true to me

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*and how are they "ridiculous"

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*because it seems like

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*theo nly reasons most pps buy them

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*are because tehy aer "simple" and "look cool"

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*thats abuot it

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*if they were so ridiculous why would Apple still exist, 26 years after they started

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*They dont JUST look cool

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*you are being too simple minded

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*there is more to it than that

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*apple users are too simple minded

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*LOL, statistically?

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*all they do is advertise well

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*If they advertised well then more people would own macs

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*they dont advertise well at all

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*thats the worst thing they do

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*the worst thing they do is everything else

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*You are so annoying..you dont share any facts or reasons

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*you just say stuff but have no examples to back it up

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*they obviously aren't as upgradable either

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*Name a program I cant use on a Mac

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*macs arent as upgradable

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*they are actually

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*and computer upgrading (frequently) is important

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*no

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*not as wellas pcs

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*not NEARLY as well as PCS

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*In what way?

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*What cant I upgrade on a mac?

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*???

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*What program cant I run on a mac?

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*they sell the same piece of shit in a bulk for like 2000 bucks for a better PC that costs 500, and new PC stuff comes out all the time that u can upgrade easily.. while on macs its a bunch of bs that no one would really care about anyways

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*except for mac fanatics

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*like you

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*you are so off base

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*they are too simple and dont have the correct functions

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*Sell in bulk?

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*they are simply retarded

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*PC owns them

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*What is the correct function that they lack?

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*PC is cheaper and 100X better

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*Name reasons WHY

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*Im going to get a drink of water

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*REASONS

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*i told you why

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*Not statements

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*you are so outrageous

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*What are the "correct functions that they lack"?

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*the function of "gosuabilitiy"

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*Which is?

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*Macs have everything that PC's have

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*but with a better, more capable operating system

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*you come well prepared- u must aregue with quite a lotta pps on mac vs PC. i'll argue with you someo ther time when i have every single minute "FACTUAL DETAIL" that you desire so much of how pcs own macs so hard.

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*If anyone knowledgeable saw this convo they would just laugh at you

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*no

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*Yes

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*We will see

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*you have toom uch time on your hands

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*I am posting this

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*on a forum

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*of nerds

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*lol

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*they will pick you apart

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*I would love to debate you sometime

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*ill pick you apart some other time

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*Just tell me when

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*you win the battle

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*Ok

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*i will win the war

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*We will see

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*lol

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*kikikikik

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*You are not worth it

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*lol

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*your mind is too far warped

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*ill show u what worth it is some other time

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*u surprised me with your database though

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*most pps dont spit all that random copy paste stuff out like that

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*My database?

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*ill come prepared next time

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*until next time we meet

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*Whatever, I should just talk to you in person

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*lol

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*i already have b4

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*about macs

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*we have

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*our pvp convos dont go anywhere

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*no, a lot of things change on a weekly basis

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*You make zero sense

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*you are outrageous doggiuenio

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*you should probably get back to your work

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*yes

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*i should

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*we will chat another time

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*affirmative

Chris says:

Â*Â*Â*bye

DKC says:

Â*Â*Â*buhbyyee

[ 02-08-2003: Message edited by: Mr. Macintosh ]

mr. macintosh · February 8, 2003 3:51PM

This just goes to show what PC users actually think. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[oyvey]" />

[ 02-08-2003: Message edited by: Mr. Macintosh ]

paul · February 8, 2003 3:53PM

mastergater has found his match...

[ 02-08-2003: Message edited by: Paul ]

mr. macintosh · February 8, 2003 3:57PM

[quote]Originally posted by Paul:

mastergater has found his match...

[ 02-08-2003: Message edited by: Paul ]<hr></blockquote>

What are you talking about, that kid didnt make a bit of sense.

eman · February 8, 2003 3:57PM

Chris... the point of posting this was...

mr. macintosh · February 8, 2003 4:00PM

[quote]Originally posted by EmAn:

Chris... the point of posting this was...<hr></blockquote>

To show people why Apple cant make headway into the PC market when PC users think this way!

br · February 8, 2003 4:10PM

[quote]Originally posted by Mr. Macintosh:



To show people why Apple cant make headway into the PC market when PC users think this way!

<hr></blockquote>

He was obviously f**king with you and it obviously worked. Good job at pointing out your own stupidity in this post.

mr. macintosh · February 8, 2003 4:16PM

[quote]Originally posted by BR:



He was obviously f**king with you and it obviously worked. Good job at pointing out your own stupidity in this post.<hr></blockquote>

He was not ****ing with me, this is just the way he is.

You never cease to belittle people do you?

[ 02-08-2003: Message edited by: Mr. Macintosh ]

majormatt · February 8, 2003 4:54PM

How typical.

br · February 8, 2003 5:25PM

[quote]Originally posted by MajorMatt:

How typical.<hr></blockquote>

Yes, it's quite typical to be able to so thoroughly screw with zealots.

ghost_user_name · February 8, 2003 5:55PM

Intented colour correcting double post

[ 02-08-2003: Message edited by: Anders the White ]

ghost_user_name · February 8, 2003 5:56PM

Ohh. I finally gets to use one of my old picture files. I have been looking for a thread to use it on and I finally found it. Thanks macintosh

ast3r3x · February 8, 2003 8:08PM

that is how PC bigots are...what do you expect?

and this is really pointless, u mostly just proved u know more about computer stuff then him from what i see...how does him knowing what multi-core means matter?

...i agree

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mr. macintosh · February 8, 2003 10:58PM

This is just a typical case of a PC user picking a fight with me, I obviously know more about the issue than he does and threw out some buzz words just to see his level of knowledge. I just posted this to show that these people really do exist. You can lead a horse to water...

alcimedes · February 8, 2003 11:16PM

what you need to do is show that you're rationale, and level headed.

don't bother trying to preach to folks, it doesn't work. just makes them defensive, and then they aren't open minded.

i use both platforms. when people ask me about what to buy, i have no problem telling them which PC's are good choices, or which Macs.

if they say they want a PC, i don't hassle them about it.

however, when they walk into my office to ask this, i'm sitting there with a PB on my desk. there are two pc's as well. every time i'm using my mac, the pc's are sitting there in powersave mode.

at least half the time, if not more, this leads to the question "well, if this PC is so good, why are you using a Mac?"

from that point you at least have a prayer of making some headway. take it slow, don't condescend. just explain, in plain talk, why you choose one platform over another.

splinemodel · February 9, 2003 2:57AM

When you and your friend hit 18 years old, various things happen to the brain. Namely, you realize that you actually don't know everything.

Next time you do this, summarize it for us. Also, do you know what 802.11g is? (or how it's different from b and a?) You seem like a fine guy, but you never struck me as technical.

ast3r3x · February 9, 2003 9:36AM

leave him alone, guys, he was just hopelessly fighting with a PC bigot about why macs are better by throwing out unrelated buzz words...is that so hard to understand?! <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[oyvey]" />

...seriously don't just argue, like it was said, peole get defensive...think about how u get when you hear macs being trashed. just use a car analogy...seems to be the pop thing to do

PC's are like big ole trucks or the fastest drag racing cars...they can go faster and do more things then say a BMW or Bentley. But BMW's and Bentley's are nicer because the way they are constructed, they thought that is put into them, and the overall design. Its tru, they can't go off roading like a ford truck, and they cn't go over 200MPH in less then 10 seconds, but they can go fast, and get you where u want to go comfortably and pleasingly...ok shi??y way to describe it.

its hard to describe to a PC user why macs are better, because you can't explain the overall feel and thought put into macs, they attention to detail and plain old experience. to them their PC is the same as mac and better because it can run >500 different solitairs, and it can also check email and look at the internet. I dont think they understand the appreciation we have for the GUI and the way things interact...and perhaps they never will, i mean they do use a PC, so they might not ever use a mac, and if they do, they probably won't care

...its really sad

mr. macintosh · February 9, 2003 12:04PM

[quote]Originally posted by Splinemodel:

When you and your friend hit 18 years old, various things happen to the brain. Namely, you realize that you actually don't know everything.

Next time you do this, summarize it for us. Also, do you know what 802.11g is? (or how it's different from b and a?) You seem like a fine guy, but you never struck me as technical.<hr></blockquote>

I may not be the most technical person on this board but I do know the difference between 802.11g, b, and a.

802.11b was the 11 megabit per second standard that is used in older base-stations and "hot spots" around the world. Then 802.11a came, at 54 megabits per second but it is not backwards compatable with b, so Apple banked on g. 802.11g is 54 megabits per second but also fully compatable with b. So if you have g in a laptop it can run along with an older base-station at 11 megabits p/s speed. It can also run back up to 54 mb/s if you are using airport extreme. I think thats how it works? <img src="embarrassed.gif" border="0">

pscates · February 9, 2003 12:22PM

Yes, but no one really cares or gets into that deep. Honest to goodness, who cares what people think? I gave up - a long time ago - getting into these sorts of arguments. It's like an eternal pissing contest that NEVER gets finished or with one side or the other conceding.

Why bother?

Your online buddy digs PCs and hates Macs? What do you care? People think and believe what they do, for any number of reasons.

Sit back and let them and just enjoy your own life and take care of your own stuff. And, of course, bask in the inner glow and satisfaction that you use a superior OS (shh...just keep that part quiet and to yourself and life is SO much easier).

If someone asks me about Macs (out of genuine, honest curiosity and isn't coming across like Captain Dickhead), then sure, I'll talk to them. But I'm not going to get into an online quibbledicking session with someone and start flinging "oh yeah? Then what does [fill in the blank] mean, smartass?" questions at someone who a) obviously doesn't know and b) obviously doesn't care.

No one can rope me into a Mac vs. PC debate anymore. I'm not 24 anymore and I simply don't give a flying damn what others do or think. It's their lives.

My words of wisdom for the week. Enjoy them.

johnny dangerously · February 9, 2003 12:49PM

[quote]Originally posted by pscates:

No one can rope me into a Mac vs. PC debate anymore. I'm not 24 anymore and I simply don't give a flying damn what others do or think. It's their lives.<hr></blockquote>

So, you're 25 then?

- Johnny Dangerously

(24, Mac evangelist, and not tired of it yet!)

mr. macintosh · February 9, 2003 12:50PM

I think I am too idealistic and actually think I can make a difference. The trouble is that that conversation was being carried out with not just 2 but there was a 3rd person watching. That 3rd person is someone I know that wants to buy a Mac, the expensive 17'' PowerBook to be exact. I didnt want that kid ruining what I had sold my friend on, so I argued with him to make me look knowledgeable. That kid was saying stuff like "dont let him get you into that gay mac stuff, hes just lying." I want the truth and I want people to have the best.

IM Convo With A PC Bigot.

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