5 nanometers ... Sheesh! I am getting flashbacks to computer RAM stated in kilobytes. How long before we see picometers used?
Picometers won't happen. Silicon atoms have a diameter of 222pm. We're nearing the limit for how small a transistor can be. Any significant future improvement must come from a combination of 3D stacking, architectural advances, application specific design, or something else as yet unimagined.
I hear you, I am sure someone will come up with a solution.
I don’t understand why people in 2019 are buying $1100 iPhone XS Maxes ,where a larger iPad 10’ costs only $330. Can people in the comment section help me understand?
Less people are buying crazy expensive phones now. Hopefully it slows more and more. The only lesson Apple listens to.
It sure is. That said, if most of the extra capacity disappears at restarting Intel-modems / re-addressing T2 inconveniences, better have some other priorities as a system-integrator vs. designer
I don’t understand why people in 2019 are buying $1100 iPhone XS Maxes ,where a larger iPad 10’ costs only $330. Can people in the comment section help me understand?
Because the XS Max is far more mobile and fits into pockets easier
It sure is. That said, if most of the extra capacity disappears at restarting Intel-modems / re-addressing T2 inconveniences, better have some other priorities as a system-integrator vs. designer
I get your point. I just thought physics here. When only a few years back the then visit of < 20nm was discussed and chances were to be declared plain crazy when talking about < 10nm. Today, we are approaching single atom transistors:
5 nanometers ... Sheesh! I am getting flashbacks to computer RAM stated in kilobytes. How long before we see picometers used?
Picometers won't happen. Silicon atoms have a diameter of 222pm. We're nearing the limit for how small a transistor can be. Any significant future improvement must come from a combination of 3D stacking, architectural advances, application specific design, or something else as yet unimagined.
I hear you, I am sure someone will come up with a solution.
We have many solutions to improving performance. It doesn't have to shrink the transistors. Some were mentioned such as 3D Stacking.
But the biggest problem isn't reaching 1nm, or post 1nm. [*] It is the cost of having higher performance. So far there isn't any technology on the horizon that signals cost reduction. EUV, 400mm Wafer ( Likely won't happen ). The problem is how we could get there while having someone to pay for it. Apple is already making smaller die size in its iPhone ( lower cost ), and my guess is that they will continue to do so.
[*] The actual size of the transistor isn't really 7nm or 5nm, these number are more like marketing numbers. So to reach the theoretical limit of electron size or say 1nm we still have a long way to go. Don't be surprise we could do 0.5nm or 0.2nm.
I don’t understand why people in 2019 are buying $1100 iPhone XS Maxes ,where a larger iPad 10’ costs only $330. Can people in the comment section help me understand?
Because the XS Max is far more mobile and fits into pockets easier
Because the XS Max is far more mobile and fits into SOME pockets easier
That is a bit more accurate IMHO. I know of some pockets that the max size phone that will fit is an iPhone 7 or 8.
5 nanometers ... Sheesh! I am getting flashbacks to computer RAM stated in kilobytes. How long before we see picometers used?
Picometers won't happen. Silicon atoms have a diameter of 222pm. We're nearing the limit for how small a transistor can be. Any significant future improvement must come from a combination of 3D stacking, architectural advances, application specific design, or something else as yet unimagined.
I heard the naysayers for the past three decades and yet we're still keeping them smaller and smaller than ever. I am not sure how they manage to make them smaller.
5 nanometers ... Sheesh! I am getting flashbacks to computer RAM stated in kilobytes. How long before we see picometers used?
Picometers won't happen. Silicon atoms have a diameter of 222pm. We're nearing the limit for how small a transistor can be. Any significant future improvement must come from a combination of 3D stacking, architectural advances, application specific design, or something else as yet unimagined.
I heard the naysayers for the past three decades and yet we're still keeping them smaller and smaller than ever. I am not sure how they manage to make them smaller.
I don’t understand why people in 2019 are buying $1100 iPhone XS Maxes ,where a larger iPad 10’ costs only $330. Can people in the comment section help me understand?
Because the XS Max is far more mobile and fits into pockets easier
Because the XS Max is far more mobile and fits into SOME pockets easier
That is a bit more accurate IMHO. I know of some pockets that the max size phone that will fit is an iPhone 7 or 8.
The iPhone max will fit better in any pocket vs a 9.7 in iPad. That was the comparison. Not people who wear jeans or pants so tight that the Max or Plus sized phones can’t squeeze into a pocket.
I personally wear slim fit jeans everyday and I have never had an issue with my Max not fitting into my rear or front pocket.
I don’t understand why people in 2019 are buying $1100 iPhone XS Maxes ,where a larger iPad 10’ costs only $330. Can people in the comment section help me understand?
If a person is worried about cost than there are cheaper iPhones to consider. Would you ask the same question to someone using a 7 Plus if they just bought the phone new in 2019 at a discounted price ? You’re question seems to be about price and not screen size.
I would never sit in an office setting with a full size iPad to text or answer email. I wouldn’t sit at a bar to text and take a call with a full size iPad. That just seems ridiculous to me. Yes the Max gives you 6.5 inches of screen with the body the same size as the Plus sized phones. It’s in no way as large or wide as a 9.7 inch iPad.
These are just the reasons that I wouldn’t consider replacing a larger screen phone with a budget iPad.
5 nanometers ... Sheesh! I am getting flashbacks to computer RAM stated in kilobytes. How long before we see picometers used?
Picometers won't happen. Silicon atoms have a diameter of 222pm. We're nearing the limit for how small a transistor can be. Any significant future improvement must come from a combination of 3D stacking, architectural advances, application specific design, or something else as yet unimagined.
Already imagined: quantum computing and superconductivity.
5 nm - this will be the chip used for the start of A-based Macs. Apple will save substantially from not having to pay Intel for their CPUs, that they may even put more than one in a computer ala BeOS - imagine that.
Yeah we hope!! This could also help Apple take a higher portion of profit share and widen the gap in performance with the MacBook wannabes.
And what's BeOS?
BeOS was the OS Apple almost purchased to replace the classic MacOS. They chose NeXTSTEP instead.
5 nanometers ... Sheesh! I am getting flashbacks to computer RAM stated in kilobytes. How long before we see picometers used?
Picometers won't happen. Silicon atoms have a diameter of 222pm. We're nearing the limit for how small a transistor can be. Any significant future improvement must come from a combination of 3D stacking, architectural advances, application specific design, or something else as yet unimagined.
I don’t understand why people in 2019 are buying $1100 iPhone XS Maxes ,where a larger iPad 10’ costs only $330. Can people in the comment section help me understand?
Whenever I try to take or make a phone call on my 12.9” iPad in public, I get weird looks... it’s also super awkward & automatically starts out in speakerphone, unless I have a bluetooth headset paired 24/7.
You should also see me trying to quickly look up an address in my car using GPS on my iPad, instead of on my phone, like a normal person. 3 tickets & 2 accidents so far!
At least I’m building a lot of muscle mass, pulling my iPad out the 100+ times a day I like to check email, the time, text, use social media, etc.
Ugh, I did spend a lot retrofitting all my jeans w/ 13” diagonal pockets though.
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Need any more “examples”, or do you recognize how ridiculous your question is?
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Today, we are approaching single atom transistors:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/5_nanometer
Not the most recent, but I found it a good read as well: https://semiengineering.com/racing-to-107nm/
But the biggest problem isn't reaching 1nm, or post 1nm. [*] It is the cost of having higher performance. So far there isn't any technology on the horizon that signals cost reduction. EUV, 400mm Wafer ( Likely won't happen ). The problem is how we could get there while having someone to pay for it. Apple is already making smaller die size in its iPhone ( lower cost ), and my guess is that they will continue to do so.
[*] The actual size of the transistor isn't really 7nm or 5nm, these number are more like marketing numbers. So to reach the theoretical limit of electron size or say 1nm we still have a long way to go. Don't be surprise we could do 0.5nm or 0.2nm.
I heard the naysayers for the past three decades and yet we're still keeping them smaller and smaller than ever. I am not sure how they manage to make them smaller.
I personally wear slim fit jeans everyday and I have never had an issue with my Max not fitting into my rear or front pocket.
I would never sit in an office setting with a full size iPad to text or answer email. I wouldn’t sit at a bar to text and take a call with a full size iPad. That just seems ridiculous to me. Yes the Max gives you 6.5 inches of screen with the body the same size as the Plus sized phones. It’s in no way as large or wide as a 9.7 inch iPad.
These are just the reasons that I wouldn’t consider replacing a larger screen phone with a budget iPad.
https://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/research/2012/120219KlimeckAtom.html
You should also see me trying to quickly look up an address in my car using GPS on my iPad, instead of on my phone, like a normal person. 3 tickets & 2 accidents so far!
At least I’m building a lot of muscle mass, pulling my iPad out the 100+ times a day I like to check email, the time, text, use social media, etc.
Ugh, I did spend a lot retrofitting all my jeans w/ 13” diagonal pockets though.
/s
Need any more “examples”, or do you recognize how ridiculous your question is?