Benchmark showdown: Samsung Galaxy S10+ versus iPhone XS Max

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  • Reply 21 of 28
    GeorgeBMacGeorgeBMac Posts: 11,421member
    For most people -- the vast majority -- both of these processors are mighty engines looking for a real world use.  It's like giving everybody a 180mph Maserati.   It's definitely cool, but how does one exploit its potential?

    At this point, the iPhone probably needs a USB-C port so it can drive peripherals.   I can see it being used to drive a 27" 5K screen with an embedded GPU or to pop it into a laptop shell and used as the memory, storage,communications, brains and trackpad.
  • Reply 22 of 28
    mcdave said:
    It's already been mentioned, but....


    Primate Labs Geekbench Browser (which aggregates thousands of tests) lists the iPhone XS Max at 4,797 single (very close to yours) but 11,225 in multi (a full 900 pts higher than your result). They don't list the S10 yet, which is typical since they haven't had enough tests performed yet to show up. This happens every 

    AnTuTu lists the iPhone XS Max at 355,762 (I don't know how many results they use to get that figure). They have the Exynos 9820 equipped S10 at 332,850 but no result for the 855 version. Again, your AnTuTu result for the iPhone XS Max is extremely low (by 40,000).

    I just ran both tests on my iPhone XS Max "as is" (meaning I didn't do a cold boot or delete any running Apps - I literally just started the benchmarks when I saw this article pop up). I got 361,314 for AnTuTu and 4767/11,245 for Geekbench.

    Clearly there's something amiss with your iPhone results. Are you on beta software? Running something in the background?


    So the A12 beats the 855 despite having half the performance cores.
    Why is that a surprise? That's what happens when you have a company building components in tandem, and optimizing those components for the software/firmware they're designed to use. It's no secret that Android is a complete disaster when it comes to efficiency. 
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 23 of 28
    Don't care.  Still don't want an Android device.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 24 of 28
    mcdave said:
    So the A12 beats the 855 despite having half the performance cores.
    Why is that a surprise? That's what happens when you have a company building components in tandem, and optimizing those components for the software/firmware they're designed to use. It's no secret that Android is a complete disaster when it comes to efficiency. 
    You're entirely mistaken. This has nothing to do with vertical integration, Apple's software/firmware, etc. Those are good things, and important for device performance (as Samsung demonstrated last year on the S9 with their seriously busted scheduler) but they are irrelevant to the issue of underlying chip performance.

    The A12 is simply a vastly superior chip. In fact the A11 is competitive with the 855 (and the Kirin 980). This is purely a hardware issue. Someone here already posted a link to Anandtech, and I recommend you follow it. They're doing much better and more in-depth work on this topic than any other site.

    This AI benchmark article is surprisingly (and uncharacteristically) flawed. It should be updated.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 25 of 28
    frantisekfrantisek Posts: 761member
    It's already been mentioned, but....


    Primate Labs Geekbench Browser (which aggregates thousands of tests) lists the iPhone XS Max at 4,797 single (very close to yours) but 11,225 in multi (a full 900 pts higher than your result). They don't list the S10 yet, which is typical since they haven't had enough tests performed yet to show up. This happens every 

    AnTuTu lists the iPhone XS Max at 355,762 (I don't know how many results they use to get that figure). They have the Exynos 9820 equipped S10 at 332,850 but no result for the 855 version. Again, your AnTuTu result for the iPhone XS Max is extremely low (by 40,000).

    I just ran both tests on my iPhone XS Max "as is" (meaning I didn't do a cold boot or delete any running Apps - I literally just started the benchmarks when I saw this article pop up). I got 361,314 for AnTuTu and 4767/11,245 for Geekbench.

    Clearly there's something amiss with your iPhone results. Are you on beta software? Running something in the background?


    I do not want accuse AI of anything bad but this review looks like Samsung pay for that! Don't you think guys? It was visible at first moment that Antutu scores are wrong for iPhone. If I can remember that it was around 360000 then professional journalist could as well. And they even did not point to this discrepancy. Lame.
    edited March 2019 watto_cobra
  • Reply 26 of 28
    GeorgeBMacGeorgeBMac Posts: 11,421member
    frantisek said:
    It's already been mentioned, but....


    Primate Labs Geekbench Browser (which aggregates thousands of tests) lists the iPhone XS Max at 4,797 single (very close to yours) but 11,225 in multi (a full 900 pts higher than your result). They don't list the S10 yet, which is typical since they haven't had enough tests performed yet to show up. This happens every 

    AnTuTu lists the iPhone XS Max at 355,762 (I don't know how many results they use to get that figure). They have the Exynos 9820 equipped S10 at 332,850 but no result for the 855 version. Again, your AnTuTu result for the iPhone XS Max is extremely low (by 40,000).

    I just ran both tests on my iPhone XS Max "as is" (meaning I didn't do a cold boot or delete any running Apps - I literally just started the benchmarks when I saw this article pop up). I got 361,314 for AnTuTu and 4767/11,245 for Geekbench.

    Clearly there's something amiss with your iPhone results. Are you on beta software? Running something in the background?


    I do not want accuse AI of anything bad but this review looks like Samsung pay for that! Don't you think guys? It was visible at first moment that Antutu scores are wrong for iPhone. If I can remember that it was around 360000 then professional journalist could as well. And they even did not point to this discrepancy. Lame.
    AI does not work like that.   You can take issue with the test and its results -- but not AI.
  • Reply 27 of 28
    frantisek said:
    I do not want accuse AI of anything bad but this review looks like Samsung pay for that! Don't you think guys? It was visible at first moment that Antutu scores are wrong for iPhone. If I can remember that it was around 360000 then professional journalist could as well. And they even did not point to this discrepancy. Lame.
    AI does not work like that.   You can take issue with the test and its results -- but not AI.
    I'm quite certain AI isn't on the take from Samsung. But this is still a serious screwup, and they should correct it.
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