What is it, exactly, that everyone is afraid of Google getting a hold of? You think Google is the only entity in the world that is "spying" (collecting data) on you? Ever go out in public, per chance, or just sit behind your "safe Mac" your whole life? I don't care. I'm a grain of sand on a beach.
BTW Gruber and Rene Richie were talking on the latest episode of The Talk Show about how the so-called anonymization by companies like Google and Facebook is easily circumvented by advertisers and metrics companies who figure out ways to link users to a specific identifying data point, and then create "shadow profiles" of you from there. Fun stuff, kids. You are the product.
But that couldn't happen using an Apple product.
They didn’t mention Apple, presumably because Apple isn’t in the web advertising business and the other two are. So what advertisers are building shadow profiles on Apple users?
What is it, exactly, that everyone is afraid of Google getting a hold of? You think Google is the only entity in the world that is "spying" (collecting data) on you? Ever go out in public, per chance, or just sit behind your "safe Mac" your whole life? I don't care. I'm a grain of sand on a beach.
BTW Gruber and Rene Richie were talking on the latest episode of The Talk Show about how the so-called anonymization by companies like Google and Facebook is easily circumvented by advertisers and metrics companies who figure out ways to link users to a specific identifying data point, and then create "shadow profiles" of you from there. Fun stuff, kids. You are the product.
But that couldn't happen using an Apple product.
They didn’t mention Apple, presumably because Apple isn’t in the web advertising business and the other two are. So what advertisers are building shadow profiles on Apple users?
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Apple users can't be tracked nor shadow profiles built on them whether on iOS or Mac can they? I believe that's what I said, and I don't think you're disagreeing.
"and considering the money they're making on it, shouldn't I be getting a share of that? "
We need either a Federal law or even better a Constitutional Amendment that grants every citizen absolute ownership of their personal data. No use of that data without remuneration. No use of SSN without tokenization like Apple Pay or similar. Companies should not be indemnified if they lose the data we have allowed them to use. No enitiy is entitled to our data. They have taken it because no one has stood up and stoppped them.
-Are you talking a cash payment only or is a trade for services rendered OK? -Is profit allowed or are you expecting break-even? -What about the credit bureau's, banks, and other lenders who use your personal data to evaluate you for extending credit? -Would it be OK for you as an employer to do a background check, or for an insurer to check your driving history and accident record?
All these things require that your personal data be stored somewhere. Is signing your agreement to access it sufficient or are you still demanding to be paid in actual money?
A lot of questions are raised by what you think is a simple matter. I look forward to your comment.
All of the things you mentioned are up to the individual. That is the key. There should be no presumption on the part of companies that they have some right to your personal data. The ask, I provide. The ask I don't provide. Pretty simple.
If I want a loan, I provide, but they absolutely do not get to keep my data unless I grant it. If they need ongoing access for some reason they can either ask each time they want it or I can grant some sort of recurring window of access, but no storage of my data. None of this, in the age of computers, devices and Internet, is hard. Credit bureaus in particular are a wart on the world and have shown themselves to be unreliable custodians of anyone's data. Right now I have all my credit and my wife's credit locked down at all bureaus. I have zero debt and no need for loans or new credit cards, so no one should get to see my credit ever.
Seriously, who’s dumb enough to use Google spyware on their Mac? 😂
I know it's an old post, but I must say that Google Chrome works better than Safari in many cases. I created a Javascript game and it did not work in Safari, but it worked perfectly with Chrome and also many websites seem to be unsupported on Safari. So Chrome is the best.
"and considering the money they're making on it, shouldn't I be getting a share of that? "
We need either a Federal law or even better a Constitutional Amendment that grants every citizen absolute ownership of their personal data. No use of that data without remuneration. No use of SSN without tokenization like Apple Pay or similar. Companies should not be indemnified if they lose the data we have allowed them to use. No enitiy is entitled to our data. They have taken it because no one has stood up and stoppped them.
-Are you talking a cash payment only or is a trade for services rendered OK? -Is profit allowed or are you expecting break-even? -What about the credit bureau's, banks, and other lenders who use your personal data to evaluate you for extending credit? -Would it be OK for you as an employer to do a background check, or for an insurer to check your driving history and accident record?
All these things require that your personal data be stored somewhere. Is signing your agreement to access it sufficient or are you still demanding to be paid in actual money?
A lot of questions are raised by what you think is a simple matter. I look forward to your comment.
All of the things you mentioned are up to the individual. That is the key. There should be no presumption on the part of companies that they have some right to your personal data. The ask, I provide. The ask I don't provide. Pretty simple.
If I want a loan, I provide, but they absolutely do not get to keep my data unless I grant it. If they need ongoing access for some reason they can either ask each time they want it or I can grant some sort of recurring window of access, but no storage of my data. None of this, in the age of computers, devices and Internet, is hard. Credit bureaus in particular are a wart on the world and have shown themselves to be unreliable custodians of anyone's data. Right now I have all my credit and my wife's credit locked down at all bureaus. I have zero debt and no need for loans or new credit cards, so no one should get to see my credit ever.
What you should be using is a credit FREEZE which affords better protection. As a plus it's also free. Something for you to check on tho is whether either one prevents the credit bureaus from selling your data for other purposes. I'm not entirely certain but i'll probably check now.
There's a huge market for them in selling data for stuff other than extending credit.
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If I want a loan, I provide, but they absolutely do not get to keep my data unless I grant it. If they need ongoing access for some reason they can either ask each time they want it or I can grant some sort of recurring window of access, but no storage of my data. None of this, in the age of computers, devices and Internet, is hard. Credit bureaus in particular are a wart on the world and have shown themselves to be unreliable custodians of anyone's data. Right now I have all my credit and my wife's credit locked down at all bureaus. I have zero debt and no need for loans or new credit cards, so no one should get to see my credit ever.
I created a Javascript game and it did not work in Safari, but it worked perfectly with Chrome and also many websites seem to be unsupported on Safari.
So Chrome is the best.
There's a huge market for them in selling data for stuff other than extending credit.