The lesson for everyone, even your lawyer (Attorney Client Privilege) is not beyond the reach of our government if they looking to make an example of you.
Everyone should put their politics aside and decide if what you are seeing from our government is good. Remember what they use to say, first they came for people you did not know, and you did not say anything, then they came for your neighbors, and still did not say anything, then your family and finally you but no one say anything to help you either.
The lesson for everyone, even your lawyer (Attorney Client Privilege) is not beyond the reach of our government if they looking to make an example of you.
Everyone should put their politics aside and decide if what you are seeing from our government is good. Remember what they use to say, first they came for people you did not know, and you did not say anything, then they came for your neighbors, and still did not say anything, then your family and finally you but no one say anything to help you either.
What’s the difference between forcing biometrics and forcing a suspect to give their passcode?
Something you are, vs something you know. You have to give up things that you are, like fingerprints and DNA, but you do not have to give up things you know, like thoughts or passwords.
The lesson for everyone, even your lawyer (Attorney Client Privilege) is not beyond the reach of our government if they looking to make an example of you.
Everyone should put their politics aside and decide if what you are seeing from our government is good. Remember what they use to say, first they came for people you did not know, and you did not say anything, then they came for your neighbors, and still did not say anything, then your family and finally you but no one say anything to help you either.
The lesson for everyone, even your lawyer (Attorney Client Privilege) is not beyond the reach of our government if they looking to make an example of you.
Everyone should put their politics aside and decide if what you are seeing from our government is good. Remember what they use to say, first they came for people you did not know, and you did not say anything, then they came for your neighbors, and still did not say anything, then your family and finally you but no one say anything to help you either.
Pretty much covers how Michael Cohen didn't meet the exceptions, and more to the point, how Trump eliminated the privilege in the payment scheme.
My point was all the things Cohen was doing and plead gulity to he was doing for 20 yrs long before he met trump but they did not care. But they decided to go after him immediately after trump got elected. They went after him and hoped he would share what he learned from being trump lawyer to keep himself out of jail. We still do not know what he share with the government from what he learn being paid for be trumps lawyer. The government also took all his files even one which did not have anything to do with the crimes he committed. Do not think they did not look at them.
The lesson for everyone, even your lawyer (Attorney Client Privilege) is not beyond the reach of our government if they looking to make an example of you.
Everyone should put their politics aside and decide if what you are seeing from our government is good. Remember what they use to say, first they came for people you did not know, and you did not say anything, then they came for your neighbors, and still did not say anything, then your family and finally you but no one say anything to help you either.
Pretty much covers how Michael Cohen didn't meet the exceptions, and more to the point, how Trump eliminated the privilege in the payment scheme.
My point was all the things Cohen was doing and plead gulity to he was doing for 20 yrs long before he met trump but they did not care. But they decided to go after him immediately after trump got elected. They went after him and hoped he would share what he learned from being trump lawyer to keep himself out of jail. We still do not know what he share with the government from what he learn being paid for be trumps lawyer. The government also took all his files even one which did not have anything to do with the crimes he committed. Do not think they did not look at them.
Where it started;
"The ongoing Special Counsel investigation (also referred to as the Mueller Probe or Mueller Investigation) is a United States law enforcement and counterintelligence investigation of the Russian government's efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election."
"On July 18, 2017, Mueller’s team got a warrant on Michael Cohen’s Google activity from January 1, 2016 to July 18, 2017, for which they would already have obtained the call records showing whom he was emailing when using it and a preservation order. At the time, they were investigating:
Conspiracy
False statements to a financial institution
Money laundering
Acting as an unregistered foreign agent
FARA violations
On August 8, 2017, Mueller’s team got a warrant for Cohen’s iCloud account."
and,
"This suggests that while they had found his Essential Consultants bank account and recognized that he was using it for things he hadn’t informed the bank about, they were not yet focusing on hush payments as an illegal campaign donation."
"They" went after Cohen, because they found he was connected via "their" investigation into Russian Election Interference. It was only in April of 2018 that they acted on information to obtain warrants.
The truth is, there were numerous parties in contact with Russia who were investigated, and with connections to Trump, or the Trump Organization. How could the Special Prosecutor's investigations not have made these connections?
"Both Cohen and Trump cried foul over the raids, with Cohen’s attorney at the time calling them “completely inappropriate and unnecessary” and the president taking to Twitter to declare that “Attorney-client privilege is dead!”
A court-ordered review ultimately found only a fraction of the seized material to be privileged.
The raids on Cohen were triggered in part by a referral from special counsel Robert Mueller, who separately is looking into Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election."
Maybe Trump, et al, shouldn't have been involved with, and connected to, Russian Election interference.
The lesson for everyone, even your lawyer (Attorney Client Privilege) is not beyond the reach of our government if they looking to make an example of you.
Everyone should put their politics aside and decide if what you are seeing from our government is good. Remember what they use to say, first they came for people you did not know, and you did not say anything, then they came for your neighbors, and still did not say anything, then your family and finally you but no one say anything to help you either.
Pretty much covers how Michael Cohen didn't meet the exceptions, and more to the point, how Trump eliminated the privilege in the payment scheme.
My point was all the things Cohen was doing and plead gulity to he was doing for 20 yrs long before he met trump but they did not care. But they decided to go after him immediately after trump got elected. They went after him and hoped he would share what he learned from being trump lawyer to keep himself out of jail. We still do not know what he share with the government from what he learn being paid for be trumps lawyer. The government also took all his files even one which did not have anything to do with the crimes he committed. Do not think they did not look at them.
Absolutely. It was a shakedown and in exchange for him violating his lawyer-client confidentiality (which recently caused him to be disbarred) and giving up everything he knew or could lie about Trump they reduced his decades long sentence to a mere three years.
And by the way Trump simply asked was to see his birth certificate. Something the past administration spent millions of dollars and months of fighting over to keep hidden instead of just presenting it. Seems like a simple request.
Yeah, sorry.
Politifact: "After we looked through court records and spoke to experts in the field, we found insufficient evidence to support the claim that Obama for America spent $2 million solely on birth-certificate-related work."
"And by the way"...Trump did not simply ask to see the birth certificate. Rather, he repeatedly fabricated stories about it.
@realdonaldtrump: "An 'extremely credible source' has called my office and told me that @BarackObama's birth certificate is a fraud." "I have people that have been studying [Obama's birth certificate] and they cannot believe what they're finding ..." "Attention all hackers: ...hack Obama's college records (destroyed?) and check "place of birth" "...that where it says 'religion,' it might have 'Muslim.' And if you're a Muslim, you don't change your religion, by the way." "He [Obama] said he was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia ... Now they're saying it was a mistake. Just like his Kenyan grandmother said he was born in Kenya, and she pointed down the road to the hospital, and after people started screaming at her, she said, 'Oh, I mean Hawaii.' Give me a break."
The bigger point is, why does Trump, and a significant section of his base, believe so fervently in such obvious mistruths?
The lesson for everyone, even your lawyer (Attorney Client Privilege) is not beyond the reach of our government if they looking to make an example of you.
Everyone should put their politics aside and decide if what you are seeing from our government is good. Remember what they use to say, first they came for people you did not know, and you did not say anything, then they came for your neighbors, and still did not say anything, then your family and finally you but no one say anything to help you either.
Pretty much covers how Michael Cohen didn't meet the exceptions, and more to the point, how Trump eliminated the privilege in the payment scheme.
My point was all the things Cohen was doing and plead gulity to he was doing for 20 yrs long before he met trump but they did not care. But they decided to go after him immediately after trump got elected. They went after him and hoped he would share what he learned from being trump lawyer to keep himself out of jail. We still do not know what he share with the government from what he learn being paid for be trumps lawyer. The government also took all his files even one which did not have anything to do with the crimes he committed. Do not think they did not look at them.
Where it started;
"The ongoing Special Counsel investigation (also referred to as the Mueller Probe or Mueller Investigation) is a United States law enforcement and counterintelligence investigation of the Russian government's efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election."
"On July 18, 2017, Mueller’s team got a warrant on Michael Cohen’s Google activity from January 1, 2016 to July 18, 2017, for which they would already have obtained the call records showing whom he was emailing when using it and a preservation order. At the time, they were investigating:
Conspiracy
False statements to a financial institution
Money laundering
Acting as an unregistered foreign agent
FARA violations
On August 8, 2017, Mueller’s team got a warrant for Cohen’s iCloud account."
and,
"This suggests that while they had found his Essential Consultants bank account and recognized that he was using it for things he hadn’t informed the bank about, they were not yet focusing on hush payments as an illegal campaign donation."
"They" went after Cohen, because they found he was connected via "their" investigation into Russian Election Interference. It was only in April of 2018 that they acted on information to obtain warrants.
The truth is, there were numerous parties in contact with Russia who were investigated, and with connections to Trump, or the Trump Organization. How could the Special Prosecutor's investigations not have made these connections?
"Both Cohen and Trump cried foul over the raids, with Cohen’s attorney at the time calling them “completely inappropriate and unnecessary” and the president taking to Twitter to declare that “Attorney-client privilege is dead!”
A court-ordered review ultimately found only a fraction of the seized material to be privileged.
The raids on Cohen were triggered in part by a referral from special counsel Robert Mueller, who separately is looking into Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election."
Maybe Trump, et al, shouldn't have been involved with, and connected to, Russian Election interference.
Not sure what your point is, your post backs up my statement they were digging into him shortly after trump was sworn in.
They used the home equality line usage as premise to get warrant. Guest what most people use their equality line for things that is not listed on the loan application, banks do not care as long as you pay it back.
I guess everyone should start warning the government will be coming after then.
Here is some history on Mueller, he investigate most banks and investment companies after the home mortgage melt down, he used the same tactics as he using with russian investigation, going after the people at the bottom and working his way up. He put allot of top people in jail. Most all of them appealed their cases and won, because the courts Mueller’s tactics were little unethical, because people said anything the could to blame their bosses to keep themselves out of jail.
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Everyone should put their politics aside and decide if what you are seeing from our government is good. Remember what they use to say, first they came for people you did not know, and you did not say anything, then they came for your neighbors, and still did not say anything, then your family and finally you but no one say anything to help you either.
Quite an inappropriate use of that quotation that you butchered.
https://www.lawfareblog.com/michael-cohen-attorney-client-privilege-and-crime-fraud-exception
Pretty much covers how Michael Cohen didn't meet the exceptions, and more to the point, how Trump eliminated the privilege in the payment scheme.
"The ongoing Special Counsel investigation (also referred to as the Mueller Probe or Mueller Investigation) is a United States law enforcement and counterintelligence investigation of the Russian government's efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election."
Here's a summary of the case:
https://www.emptywheel.net/2019/03/19/the-unsealed-parts-of-the-michael-cohen-investigation/
"On July 18, 2017, Mueller’s team got a warrant on Michael Cohen’s Google activity from January 1, 2016 to July 18, 2017, for which they would already have obtained the call records showing whom he was emailing when using it and a preservation order. At the time, they were investigating:
On August 8, 2017, Mueller’s team got a warrant for Cohen’s iCloud account."
and,
"This suggests that while they had found his Essential Consultants bank account and recognized that he was using it for things he hadn’t informed the bank about, they were not yet focusing on hush payments as an illegal campaign donation."
"They" went after Cohen, because they found he was connected via "their" investigation into Russian Election Interference. It was only in April of 2018 that they acted on information to obtain warrants.
The truth is, there were numerous parties in contact with Russia who were investigated, and with connections to Trump, or the Trump Organization. How could the Special Prosecutor's investigations not have made these connections?
another link;
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/michael-cohen-fbi-mueller-investigation-raid_n_5c90ed46e4b0d50545003640
"Both Cohen and Trump cried foul over the raids, with Cohen’s attorney at the time calling them “completely inappropriate and unnecessary” and the president taking to Twitter to declare that “Attorney-client privilege is dead!”
A court-ordered review ultimately found only a fraction of the seized material to be privileged.
The raids on Cohen were triggered in part by a referral from special counsel Robert Mueller, who separately is looking into Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election."
Maybe Trump, et al, shouldn't have been involved with, and connected to, Russian Election interference.
Politifact:
"After we looked through court records and spoke to experts in the field, we found insufficient evidence to support the claim that Obama for America spent $2 million solely on birth-certificate-related work."
"And by the way"...Trump did not simply ask to see the birth certificate. Rather, he repeatedly fabricated stories about it.
@realdonaldtrump:
"An 'extremely credible source' has called my office and told me that @BarackObama's birth certificate is a fraud."
"I have people that have been studying [Obama's birth certificate] and they cannot believe what they're finding ..."
"Attention all hackers: ...hack Obama's college records (destroyed?) and check "place of birth"
"...that where it says 'religion,' it might have 'Muslim.' And if you're a Muslim, you don't change your religion, by the way."
"He [Obama] said he was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia ... Now they're saying it was a mistake. Just like his Kenyan grandmother said he was born in Kenya, and she pointed down the road to the hospital, and after people started screaming at her, she said, 'Oh, I mean Hawaii.' Give me a break."
The bigger point is, why does Trump, and a significant section of his base, believe so fervently in such obvious mistruths?
They used the home equality line usage as premise to get warrant. Guest what most people use their equality line for things that is not listed on the loan application, banks do not care as long as you pay it back.
I guess everyone should start warning the government will be coming after then.
Here is some history on Mueller, he investigate most banks and investment companies after the home mortgage melt down, he used the same tactics as he using with russian investigation, going after the people at the bottom and working his way up. He put allot of top people in jail. Most all of them appealed their cases and won, because the courts Mueller’s tactics were little unethical, because people said anything the could to blame their bosses to keep themselves out of jail.