As others have implies, the physical TV remote should be the focus of everyone’s ire. This POS has been universally panned since its inception, and yet Apple has done nothing about it. I cannot believe that anyone at Apple in a position to make a difference uses it on a regular basis. It makes the “hockey puck” mouse look good. They should try using the TiVo “peanut” for a while if the want to know how a good remote design works. Which reminds me, until Apple includes TiVo-like recording functionality I won’t be switching to TV+. Streaming has its limits. We only use our TV to watch Apple events and the occasional movie on iTunes. Too bad Steve isn’t around to finish “cracking the TV thing.”
I can't recall the last time I saw a TV without HDMI-CEC and when you consider Apple TV users the number of televisions that will support working HDMi-CEC is probably pretty high.
Apple clearly has their reasons for not supporting HDMI-CEC volume and mute controls in their iOS app the way they support it in their Apple TV via the Siri Remote, but saying the iPhone would beed to have an IR transmitter to have volume and mute controls isn't a valid response.
I’m pretty sure that’s intentional: Unlike the Apple TV remote, the iPhone doesn’t have an IR emitter - and many (most?) TVs/Receivers don’t provide for volume control via HDMI-CEC. Including UI elements in the app which are intended to control such “external” (i.e. not related to the functionality of the Apple TV device) behaviors, seems it would just lead to confusion and frustration on the part of users.
Lol, just after I posted those two things - I saw that page!
However, for all practical purposes, this is probably still a "No" for many of us. I recently replaced an older (but excellent) Harmon Kardon (non-HDMI) with a new Denon (HDMI-CEC) receiver - but now I'm passing the connection through an HDMI splitter/switch to the receiver and TV ...
I can't recall the last time I saw a TV without HDMI-CEC and when you consider Apple TV users the number of televisions that will support working HDMi-CEC is probably pretty high.
Apple clearly has their reasons for not supporting HDMI-CEC volume and mute controls in their iOS app the way they support it in their Apple TV via the Siri Remote, but saying the iPhone would beed to have an IR transmitter to have volume and mute controls isn't a valid response.
Disadvantages of HDMI-CEC
CEC functionality is not required to be included on all HDMI-equipped devices.
On devices that include HDMI-CEC, feature access is not always consistent when using mixed brand components.
Not as comprehensive control as using the device's own remote or a universal remote.
In some cases, HDMI-CEC must be activated in order for HDMI-ARC to also work.
Sometimes HDMI-CEC will activate or turn-off devices when you don't want it to.
I think there are too many variables to user experience for Apple to enable this. This is Apple after all and the easy and consistency of use needs to be spot on or people would lose it, the issues above are out of Apple’s control and make adoption risky if things don’t work.
My my response was to the OP and what was available currently using then IOS app and an iPhone without an IR blaster there is no way to grant the functionality he/she hashtagged about. Op never mentioned HDMI-CEC control so I assumed they thought Apple simply overlooked this function, which doesn’t seem to be the case with the current capabilities.
There are a ton of snarky ass trolls that appear here daily, maybe I was a bit curt with my response. 😎
I don’t understand why the iOS remote app works by replicating a dumb traditional remote.
You literately have a fancy $1200 touch device in your hands, simulating a $20 device. Why doesn’t the remote replicate a simplified view of the AppleTV’s view so you can directly tap on items with the convenience of a phone, instead of having to swipe up, left, right and down, swiping too far or not enough all the friggin’ time?
Genius. Get this guy a job at Apple Park. This makes so much sense, it’s the 21st century and we’re still using TV remotes like it’s the 1970’s.
I don’t understand why the iOS remote app works by replicating a dumb traditional remote.
You literately have a fancy $1200 touch device in your hands, simulating a $20 device. Why doesn’t the remote replicate a simplified view of the AppleTV’s view so you can directly tap on items with the convenience of a phone, instead of having to swipe up, left, right and down, swiping too far or not enough all the friggin’ time?
Where do I find a Siri remote for $20.00? I could use a spare...
Was a typo, and an excellent opportunity for you to be snarky about it while ignoring the core message of my post. Well done.
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Apple clearly has their reasons for not supporting HDMI-CEC volume and mute controls in their iOS app the way they support it in their Apple TV via the Siri Remote, but saying the iPhone would beed to have an IR transmitter to have volume and mute controls isn't a valid response.
However, for all practical purposes, this is probably still a "No" for many of us. I recently replaced an older (but excellent) Harmon Kardon (non-HDMI) with a new Denon (HDMI-CEC) receiver - but now I'm passing the connection through an HDMI splitter/switch to the receiver and TV ...
Still a "No" for me.
Disadvantages of HDMI-CEC
https://www.lifewire.com/hdmi-cec-4158343
I think there are too many variables to user experience for Apple to enable this. This is Apple after all and the easy and consistency of use needs to be spot on or people would lose it, the issues above are out of Apple’s control and make adoption risky if things don’t work.
My my response was to the OP and what was available currently using then IOS app and an iPhone without an IR blaster there is no way to grant the functionality he/she hashtagged about. Op never mentioned HDMI-CEC control so I assumed they thought Apple simply overlooked this function, which doesn’t seem to be the case with the current capabilities.
There are a ton of snarky ass trolls that appear here daily, maybe I was a bit curt with my response. 😎