Of course the takeaway from this is that Apple is doomed. /s
Right! Apple has a single digit miss and they are doomed. Let’s see if there is the same response to Samsung’s 60% drop. I’m expecting lots of silence on these forums.
That would be the best case since this isn't a Samsung forum. But no, instead we'll be hearing a whole lotta "doomed" scenarios from those who already hated Samsung for various reasons. A multi-paragraph editorial with quotes and charts and some smattering of completely unrelated stuff would not be out-of-the-question.
I don't think AI attracts a lot of Sammy fans (I'm certainly not one) tho I'm sure there's some users of their handsets here who use Apple gear too. Some folks swing both ways.
Of course the takeaway from this is that Apple is doomed. /s
Right! Apple has a single digit miss and they are doomed. Let’s see if there is the same response to Samsung’s 60% drop. I’m expecting lots of silence on these forums.
That would be the best case since this isn't a Samsung forum. But no, instead we'll be hearing a whole lotta "doomed" scenarios from those who already hated Samsung for various reasons. A multi-paragraph editorial with quotes and charts and some smattering of completely unrelated stuff would not be out-of-the-question.
I don't think AI attracts a lot of Sammy fans (I'm certainly not one) tho I'm sure there's some users of their handsets here who use Apple gear too. Some folks swing both ways.
Of course the takeaway from this is that Apple is doomed. /s
Right! Apple has a single digit miss and they are doomed. Let’s see if there is the same response to Samsung’s 60% drop. I’m expecting lots of silence on these forums.
That would be the best case since this isn't a Samsung forum. But no, instead we'll be hearing a whole lotta "doomed" scenarios from those who already hated Samsung for various reasons. A multi-paragraph editorial with quotes and charts and some smattering of completely unrelated stuff would not be out-of-the-question.
I don't think AI attracts a lot of Sammy fans (I'm certainly not one) tho I'm sure there's some users of their handsets here who use Apple gear too. Some folks swing both ways.
Your attempt at deflection while, of course, totally expected and boringly predictable, however, fails to respond to the accurate statement by genovelle. He/she is right on the mark regarding the reaction this will (or not) get from the tech-media ... not just this forum. Try if you can to imagine the reporting had Apple announced a 60% expected profit drop. Are you able to do that?
Outside of AI? Again not how I read the comments but you're probably right as far as the overall tone from other blogs.
Apple is held in much higher regard and presumed to rarely have bad news to offer, at least in the past decade or so. When the richest company on the planet with perhaps the highest profile of anyone stumbles people notice. Samsung on the other hand carries no such weight in the public eye. Big company with a lot of stumbling.
You should be able to understand that if you stop taking everything so personally. On the one hand it's kinda flattering I guess that you follow me so closely and interested in what I have to say, but the insults you keep lobbing my way rather than counter-arguments (most of the time), and especially those times when you call out to me on some thread where I've not taken part, are a bit stalker-ish.
Toning down the personal stuff would be appreciated. Perhaps you haven't noticed how often you resort to it, but now you've been made aware. I'll have discussions with almost anyone, sometimes even vehement ones, but if your only interest is insulting me I'd rather not play.
Sorry, 'boringly predictable' is way too insulting. My apologies. I don't follow you lol, I read AI and you pop up to defend Google and take away any kudos aimed at Apple at every opportunity and always put down DED's excellent and very astute articles, am I supposed to ignore that? How about explaining why you bother to spend so much time on AI, an Apple forum after all? I am retired now but owned a few Apple dealerships and several Apple tech-based companies in my time and a shareholder, hence the interest. How do you manage so much time on AI and for what reason?
Of course the takeaway from this is that Apple is doomed. /s
Right! Apple has a single digit miss and they are doomed. Let’s see if there is the same response to Samsung’s 60% drop. I’m expecting lots of silence on these forums.
That would be the best case since this isn't a Samsung forum. But no, instead we'll be hearing a whole lotta "doomed" scenarios from those who already hated Samsung for various reasons. A multi-paragraph editorial with quotes and charts and some smattering of completely unrelated stuff would not be out-of-the-question.
I don't think AI attracts a lot of Sammy fans (I'm certainly not one) tho I'm sure there's some users of their handsets here who use Apple gear too. Some folks swing both ways.
Your attempt at deflection while, of course, totally expected and boringly predictable, however, fails to respond to the accurate statement by genovelle. He/she is right on the mark regarding the reaction this will (or not) get from the tech-media ... not just this forum. Try if you can to imagine the reporting had Apple announced a 60% expected profit drop. Are you able to do that?
Outside of AI? Again not how I read the comments but you're probably right as far as the overall tone from other blogs.
Apple is held in much higher regard and presumed to rarely have bad news to offer, at least in the past decade or so. When the richest company on the planet with perhaps the highest profile of anyone stumbles people notice. Samsung on the other hand carries no such weight in the public eye. Big company with a lot of stumbling.
You should be able to understand that if you stop taking everything so personally. On the one hand it's kinda flattering I guess that you follow me so closely and interested in what I have to say, but the insults you keep lobbing my way rather than counter-arguments (most of the time), and especially those times when you call out to me on some thread where I've not taken part, are a bit stalker-ish.
Toning down the personal stuff would be appreciated. Perhaps you haven't noticed how often you resort to it, but now you've been made aware. I'll have discussions with almost anyone, sometimes even vehement ones, but if your only interest is insulting me I'd rather not play.
Sorry, 'boringly predictable' is way too insulting. My apologies. I don't follow you lol, I read AI and you pop up to defend Google and take away any kudos aimed at Apple at every opportunity and always put down DED's excellent and very astute articles, am I supposed to ignore that? How about explaining why you bother to spend so much time on AI, an Apple forum after all? I am retired now but owned a few Apple dealerships and several Apple tech-based companies in my time and a shareholder, hence the interest. How do you manage so much time on AI and for what reason?
Ok, you're adding nothing to the discussion. No problem then, I understand.
Of course the takeaway from this is that Apple is doomed. /s
Right! Apple has a single digit miss and they are doomed. Let’s see if there is the same response to Samsung’s 60% drop. I’m expecting lots of silence on these forums.
That would be the best case since this isn't a Samsung forum. But no, instead we'll be hearing a whole lotta "doomed" scenarios from those who already hated Samsung for various reasons. A multi-paragraph editorial with quotes and charts and some smattering of completely unrelated stuff would not be out-of-the-question.
I don't think AI attracts a lot of Sammy fans (I'm certainly not one) tho I'm sure there's some users of their handsets here who use Apple gear too. Some folks swing both ways.
Your attempt at deflection while, of course, totally expected and boringly predictable, however, fails to respond to the accurate statement by genovelle. He/she is right on the mark regarding the reaction this will (or not) get from the tech-media ... not just this forum. Try if you can to imagine the reporting had Apple announced a 60% expected profit drop. Are you able to do that?
Outside of AI? Again not how I read the comments but you're probably right as far as the overall tone from other blogs.
Apple is held in much higher regard and presumed to rarely have bad news to offer, at least in the past decade or so. When the richest company on the planet with perhaps the highest profile of anyone stumbles people notice. Samsung on the other hand carries no such weight in the public eye. Big company with a lot of stumbling.
You should be able to understand that if you stop taking everything so personally. On the one hand it's kinda flattering I guess that you follow me so closely and interested in what I have to say, but the insults you keep lobbing my way rather than counter-arguments (most of the time), and especially those times when you call out to me on some thread where I've not taken part, are a bit stalker-ish.
Toning down the personal stuff would be appreciated. Perhaps you haven't noticed how often you resort to it, but now you've been made aware. I'll have discussions with almost anyone, sometimes even vehement ones, but if your only interest is insulting me I'd rather not play.
Sorry, 'boringly predictable' is way too insulting. My apologies. I don't follow you lol, I read AI and you pop up to defend Google and take away any kudos aimed at Apple at every opportunity and always put down DED's excellent and very astute articles, am I supposed to ignore that? How about explaining why you bother to spend so much time on AI, an Apple forum after all? I am retired now but owned a few Apple dealerships and several Apple tech-based companies in my time and a shareholder, hence the interest. How do you manage so much time on AI and for what reason?
Ok, you're adding nothing to the discussion. No problem then, I understand.
OK, I guess I am asking what your full-time job title is.
Most of their non-premium smartphones. They also cut deals with carriers (like 2-for-1 on midrange phones that would normally be profitable) that cost them big bucks in promotion as well as costing themselves sales by giving a second phone away for free.
Samsung makes lots of other stuff, but their main profit centre has been their component business, and that's hurting because Apple is slowly reducing orders, plus prices on RAM, plus prices on displays have all dipped due to lover demand.
Most of their non-premium smartphones. They also cut deals with carriers (like 2-for-1 on midrange phones that would normally be profitable) that cost them big bucks in promotion as well as costing themselves sales by giving a second phone away for free.
Samsung makes lots of other stuff, but their main profit centre has been their component business, and that's hurting because Apple is slowly reducing orders, plus prices on RAM, plus prices on displays have all dipped due to lover demand.
I doubt you have any evidence to Samsung selling their new phones at a loss.
More likely it's the carrier selling BOGO's in order to acquire new subscribers or lock in the ones they have. Sometimes it's iPhones being BOGO'd and I'd hardly claim Apple is behind it and selling them at a loss, and I doubt you would either.
Samsung doesn't really market services (Apple does so perhaps a teeny argument might be made), which is one of the only instances where I could see them selling at a loss; Ex. break-even on a printer but make it in paper and ink, or give away an Apple TV but make it up in subscriber revenue. Otherwise for what reason can you think of Samsung selling smartphones at a loss? If you can't come up with anything logical business wise it's not likely to be true is it?
That's actually not so surprising. Samsung can afford to sell X items at lost because their business range is huge, one can cover another and won't be totally a minus in their profits.
What is happening is that their YoY declines (though still in trillions won), and that's a concern (for Samsung at least).
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More likely it's the carrier selling BOGO's in order to acquire new subscribers or lock in the ones they have. Sometimes it's iPhones being BOGO'd and I'd hardly claim Apple is behind it and selling them at a loss, and I doubt you would either.
Samsung doesn't really market services (Apple does so perhaps a teeny argument might be made), which is one of the only instances where I could see them selling at a loss; Ex. break-even on a printer but make it in paper and ink, or give away an Apple TV but make it up in subscriber revenue. Otherwise for what reason can you think of Samsung selling smartphones at a loss? If you can't come up with anything logical business wise it's not likely to be true is it?
No one gives a shit.
What is happening is that their YoY declines (though still in trillions won), and that's a concern (for Samsung at least).