Lol... while the world is absolutely suspect of Huawei’s credibility In the security realm ... they want to sell to the The Biggest Ani-Huawei brand, Apple ...lol
Lol... while the world is absolutely suspect of Huawei’s credibility In the security realm ... they want to sell to the The Biggest Ani-Huawei brand, Apple ...lol
Why would any liberal democracy trust in a company like Huawei so well entrenched in the CCP.
Buy Samsung, Nokia and Ericsson.
Do you think anyone trusts anyone else?
Huawei is the top communications backbone infrastructure manufacturer - worldwide.
That's a lot of countries. The only thing that has changed is a campaign by the US government to try a prevent Chinese communications technology leapfrogging US efforts and gaining tech influence.
In a word, protectionism.
Much of the rest of the world is basically saying 'tough luck'. They don't really care about who has telecommunications dominance unless it is them, and it isn't. They care about products and cost.
17 hours ago Donald Trump told the Spanish Prime Minister to ban Huawei. He was swiftly rebuffed and Pedro Sánchez made it clear that that wasn't going to happen.
Huawei is a couple of years ahead of the game in 5G. It would cost governments BILLIONS to change tack on Huawei at such a late stage. And, in spite of repeated requests, no evidence supporting the US claims has ever been provided. Not even to, erm, 'allies' who the US is spying on anyway! We know this for various reasons, not least Edward Snowden.
I like my 4G device. Dont know what 5G will do. Make really fast a touch faster?
A "touch" faster? I've been reading about the new 5G network in Chicago and it's 6 times faster than the fastest iPhone XS. Things like Apple TV+ will need 5G. I'm worried that Apple will have a two year lag time on one of the most important features of a smart phone, speed. iPhones will be six times slower than Android phones from fall 2019 to fall 2021. That's two years, which in the high tech business is ten years.
Please... enough over dramatization.
By the time 5G even remotely becomes mainstream, it will be 2020, if not 2021. This "rush" is just made-up nonsense. That "test" in Chicago was a roller-coaster of reliability. Again, 5G doesn't do squat for the majority of users for a couple more years.
It won’t be mainstream until 2025, at the earliest. And that’s according to the 5G working committees. Others peg 2030 until it’s widely spread.
For the record, Huawei is a popular Android option here in western Canada as well, presumably because of the large Chinese population — but I’ve also seen plenty of non-Chinese carrying one. I point out the security issues/ties to the Chinese gov’t, but they shrug and say “it was cheap, and I don’t care what the Chinese know about me.”
False information this quote from the article “Indeed there's been a push in Europe and North America to keep Huawei out of 5G infrastructure, though that wouldn't necessarily impact modems.” That push is from the USA not anywhere else. The USA is but one country in North America. Europe, UK and Canada have not banned Huawei at this time. Nor has Mexico and it’s also in North America.
Then a poster said Canada has banned Huawei as a member of 5 Eyes. That is not true - it remains under study and Canada will likely work with UK and Europe to ensure safety in use. Canadian telcos support use of Huawei.
Frankly the planet is a lot better served when we see technology advancing in places other than the USA. So much American propaganda being dumped into all forms of social media and swallowed up by Americans.
Lol... while the world is absolutely suspect of Huawei’s credibility In the security realm ... they want to sell to the The Biggest Ani-Huawei brand, Apple ...lol
Why would any liberal democracy trust in a company like Huawei so well entrenched in the CCP.
Buy Samsung, Nokia and Ericsson.
Do you think anyone trusts anyone else?
Huawei is the top communications backbone infrastructure manufacturer - worldwide.
That's a lot of countries. The only thing that has changed is a campaign by the US government to try a prevent Chinese communications technology leapfrogging US efforts and gaining tech influence.
In a word, protectionism.
Much of the rest of the world is basically saying 'tough luck'. They don't really care about who has telecommunications dominance unless it is them, and it isn't. They care about products and cost.
17 hours ago Donald Trump told the Spanish Prime Minister to ban Huawei. He was swiftly rebuffed and Pedro Sánchez made it clear that that wasn't going to happen.
Huawei is a couple of years ahead of the game in 5G. It would cost governments BILLIONS to change tack on Huawei at such a late stage. And, in spite of repeated requests, no evidence supporting the US claims has ever been provided. Not even to, erm, 'allies' who the US is spying on anyway! We know this for various reasons, not least Edward Snowden.
Lol... while the world is absolutely suspect of Huawei’s credibility In the security realm ... they want to sell to the The Biggest Ani-Huawei brand, Apple ...lol
Trump is not the world. Actually, most of the world is calling Bull.
Lol... while the world is absolutely suspect of Huawei’s credibility In the security realm ... they want to sell to the The Biggest Ani-Huawei brand, Apple ...lol
I’d say that is a simplification. 🇬🇧 The Huawei that was in EE’s 4G network is being replaced and GCHQ experts in the last few days have said their are huge security issues just down to the really poor standard of coding in Huawei’s devices. (GCHQ have a unit that scrutinises all of Huawei’s firmware.) Huawei have even admitted to this and have promised an improvement programme. Given the other members of the Five Eyes alliance have banned Huawei from 5G networks, I’m pretty sure the U.K. will do the same.
Actually, that is quite a turnaround from Trump's claim that China was using Huawei as a spy agency. Minor tech & security glitches are an ongoing process for all tech organizations rather than a show stopper.
Lol... while the world is absolutely suspect of Huawei’s credibility In the security realm ... they want to sell to the The Biggest Ani-Huawei brand, Apple ...lol
... Why would any liberal democracy trust in a company like Huawei so well entrenched in the CCP.
Buy Samsung, Nokia and Ericsson.
1) Because they are the best available 2) Because wild, unsubstantiated claims don't make proof -- no matter how loudly or often they are repeated. 3) Making technical decisions based on political agendas doesn't usually end well.
I like my 4G device. Dont know what 5G will do. Make really fast a touch faster?
A "touch" faster? I've been reading about the new 5G network in Chicago and it's 6 times faster than the fastest iPhone XS. Things like Apple TV+ will need 5G. I'm worried that Apple will have a two year lag time on one of the most important features of a smart phone, speed. iPhones will be six times slower than Android phones from fall 2019 to fall 2021. That's two years, which in the high tech business is ten years.
Please... enough over dramatization.
By the time 5G even remotely becomes mainstream, it will be 2020, if not 2021. This "rush" is just made-up nonsense. That "test" in Chicago was a roller-coaster of reliability. Again, 5G doesn't do squat for the majority of users for a couple more years.
It won’t be mainstream until 2025, at the earliest. And that’s according to the 5G working committees. Others peg 2030 until it’s widely spread.
right now it’s just marketing hype.
I guess that depends on how you define "mainstream". Verizon alone intends to have it up and running in 30 U.S. cities over the next 9 months.
Others may feel differently, but if I was given a choice between dropping a grand on a modern 5G capable phone versus an obsolete 4G one, I will take 5G even if it pisses Trump off.
I like my 4G device. Dont know what 5G will do. Make really fast a touch faster?
A "touch" faster? I've been reading about the new 5G network in Chicago and it's 6 times faster than the fastest iPhone XS. Things like Apple TV+ will need 5G. I'm worried that Apple will have a two year lag time on one of the most important features of a smart phone, speed. iPhones will be six times slower than Android phones from fall 2019 to fall 2021. That's two years, which in the high tech business is ten years.
Please... enough over dramatization.
By the time 5G even remotely becomes mainstream, it will be 2020, if not 2021. This "rush" is just made-up nonsense. That "test" in Chicago was a roller-coaster of reliability. Again, 5G doesn't do squat for the majority of users for a couple more years.
It won’t be mainstream until 2025, at the earliest. And that’s according to the 5G working committees. Others peg 2030 until it’s widely spread.
right now it’s just marketing hype.
I guess that depends on how you define "mainstream". Verizon alone intends to have it up and running in 30 U.S. cities over the next 9 months.
Yeah, Minneapolis is one of those cities. Except we have a total of about 10 square blocks with 5G coverage (counting US Bank stadium as 4 of them). The coverage doesn't really seem to cover much. The other issue is that the first wave/generation of coverage is not mm wavelength, so speeds are no faster than 4G. Not that true 4G speed causes issues for anyone anyway.
Others may feel differently, but if I was given a choice between dropping a grand on a modern 5G capable phone versus an obsolete 4G one, I will take 5G even if it pisses Trump off.
And what will it do for you that a 4G phone can't?
I like my 4G device. Dont know what 5G will do. Make really fast a touch faster?
A "touch" faster? I've been reading about the new 5G network in Chicago and it's 6 times faster than the fastest iPhone XS. Things like Apple TV+ will need 5G. I'm worried that Apple will have a two year lag time on one of the most important features of a smart phone, speed. iPhones will be six times slower than Android phones from fall 2019 to fall 2021. That's two years, which in the high tech business is ten years.
Please... enough over dramatization.
By the time 5G even remotely becomes mainstream, it will be 2020, if not 2021. This "rush" is just made-up nonsense. That "test" in Chicago was a roller-coaster of reliability. Again, 5G doesn't do squat for the majority of users for a couple more years.
It won’t be mainstream until 2025, at the earliest. And that’s according to the 5G working committees. Others peg 2030 until it’s widely spread.
right now it’s just marketing hype.
I guess that depends on how you define "mainstream". Verizon alone intends to have it up and running in 30 U.S. cities over the next 9 months.
Others may feel differently, but if I was given a choice between dropping a grand on a modern 5G capable phone versus an obsolete 4G one, I will take 5G even if it pisses Trump off.
And what will it do for you that a 4G phone can't?
Remain current with technology and functionality beyond the first year of its life. I hate sinking good money into soon to be obsolete gadgets.
The "5G won't do anything" excuse looks pretty weak when, throughout the world, governments and industry are sinking hundreds of billions into it because they know what it will do.
Others may feel differently, but if I was given a choice between dropping a grand on a modern 5G capable phone versus an obsolete 4G one, I will take 5G even if it pisses Trump off.
Has nothing to do with Trumbo. Six US intelligence agency chiefs reported the CCP threat to the senate’s Security Committee. These agencies are often at odds with Trumbo and some are the same agencies that reported on Russian meddling on behalf of him. If you trusted them then, they should be trusted now.
I like my 4G device. Dont know what 5G will do. Make really fast a touch faster?
A "touch" faster? I've been reading about the new 5G network in Chicago and it's 6 times faster than the fastest iPhone XS. Things like Apple TV+ will need 5G. I'm worried that Apple will have a two year lag time on one of the most important features of a smart phone, speed. iPhones will be six times slower than Android phones from fall 2019 to fall 2021. That's two years, which in the high tech business is ten years.
Please... enough over dramatization.
By the time 5G even remotely becomes mainstream, it will be 2020, if not 2021. This "rush" is just made-up nonsense. That "test" in Chicago was a roller-coaster of reliability. Again, 5G doesn't do squat for the majority of users for a couple more years.
It won’t be mainstream until 2025, at the earliest. And that’s according to the 5G working committees. Others peg 2030 until it’s widely spread.
right now it’s just marketing hype.
I guess that depends on how you define "mainstream". Verizon alone intends to have it up and running in 30 U.S. cities over the next 9 months.
Others may feel differently, but if I was given a choice between dropping a grand on a modern 5G capable phone versus an obsolete 4G one, I will take 5G even if it pisses Trump off.
And what will it do for you that a 4G phone can't?
Remain current with technology and functionality beyond the first year of its life. I hate sinking good money into soon to be obsolete gadgets.
The "5G won't do anything" excuse looks pretty weak when, throughout the world, governments and industry are sinking hundreds of billions into it because they know what it will do.
But what does “remaining current” actually do for you? (This is a serious question.) What’s the point if it’s the newest but you can’t actually do anything different?
Others may feel differently, but if I was given a choice between dropping a grand on a modern 5G capable phone versus an obsolete 4G one, I will take 5G even if it pisses Trump off.
Has nothing to do with Trumbo. Six US intelligence agency chiefs reported the CCP threat to the senate’s Security Committee. These agencies are often at odds with Trumbo and some are the same agencies that reported on Russian meddling on behalf of him. If you trusted them then, they should be trusted now.
The "Six US intelligence agency chiefs" thing has been blown all out of proportion and spun by Trump supporters trying to justify his vendetta and protectionism from China and its technology. The same kind of generalized "might be" kind of suspicion was voiced about Einstein being a communist spy 70 years ago...
And comparing the unconfirmed suspicians of Huawei to the multiple, confirmed reports of the Russian attacks on our election and election systems is a totally false equivalency.
Like Trump's denial of climate change: His supporters find reasons to believe anything he says while the rest of the world calls bull.
Others may feel differently, but if I was given a choice between dropping a grand on a modern 5G capable phone versus an obsolete 4G one, I will take 5G even if it pisses Trump off.
Has nothing to do with Trumbo. Six US intelligence agency chiefs reported the CCP threat to the senate’s Security Committee. These agencies are often at odds with Trumbo and some are the same agencies that reported on Russian meddling on behalf of him. If you trusted them then, they should be trusted now.
'Threats' can come from anywhere. Even Cisco equipment. Even Cisco government connections.
If you're looking for threats they are literally everywhere you look. Let's not even get into the pesky little details of vast amounts of traffic moving over Huawei gear all over the globe. As it has been for ages with not one single major security issue.
Of course, and as Huawei itself has stated on numerous occasions, any revelation that Huawei has acted in bad faith would mean the instant destruction of the company. Do you really believe they would be so stupid?
If you have even an inkling of evidence to at least support the 'threats' you would be on a better footing.
Of course that evidence is nowhere to be seen and Huawei is suing the US government. One of the theories as to exactly why, is that it wants access to that information and where it is coming from.
And if you go back to some of the original filings, those intelligence committees even included a company that had nothing at all to do with Huawei - but just happened to have the word in its company name!
I like my 4G device. Dont know what 5G will do. Make really fast a touch faster?
A "touch" faster? I've been reading about the new 5G network in Chicago and it's 6 times faster than the fastest iPhone XS. Things like Apple TV+ will need 5G. I'm worried that Apple will have a two year lag time on one of the most important features of a smart phone, speed. iPhones will be six times slower than Android phones from fall 2019 to fall 2021. That's two years, which in the high tech business is ten years.
Please... enough over dramatization.
By the time 5G even remotely becomes mainstream, it will be 2020, if not 2021. This "rush" is just made-up nonsense. That "test" in Chicago was a roller-coaster of reliability. Again, 5G doesn't do squat for the majority of users for a couple more years.
It won’t be mainstream until 2025, at the earliest. And that’s according to the 5G working committees. Others peg 2030 until it’s widely spread.
right now it’s just marketing hype.
I guess that depends on how you define "mainstream". Verizon alone intends to have it up and running in 30 U.S. cities over the next 9 months.
Others may feel differently, but if I was given a choice between dropping a grand on a modern 5G capable phone versus an obsolete 4G one, I will take 5G even if it pisses Trump off.
And what will it do for you that a 4G phone can't?
Remain current with technology and functionality beyond the first year of its life. I hate sinking good money into soon to be obsolete gadgets.
The "5G won't do anything" excuse looks pretty weak when, throughout the world, governments and industry are sinking hundreds of billions into it because they know what it will do.
But what does “remaining current” actually do for you? (This is a serious question.) What’s the point if it’s the newest but you can’t actually do anything different?
Ir enables services which need a low latency like multi player gaming.
It increases my internet speed in city centers. The 4G base station are saturated in really crowded cities like New York and the main cities in Europe and Asia. Even without new the millilmeter base stations, which will only be available in a later phase, 5G will immediate boost the internet speed for users in these crowded areas.
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/huawei-security-flaws-1.5074972
right now it’s just marketing hype.
IOW, Android users in a nutshell
Then a poster said Canada has banned Huawei as a member of 5 Eyes. That is not true - it remains under study and Canada will likely work with UK and Europe to ensure safety in use. Canadian telcos support use of Huawei.
Frankly the planet is a lot better served when we see technology advancing in places other than the USA. So much American propaganda being dumped into all forms of social media and swallowed up by Americans.
Protectionism:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johntamny/2019/01/30/the-shameful-persecution-of-huawei-by-americas-protectionist-class/
Technological Lead:
"Petty said that when it came to technology, Huawei "is a long way in front" – with Ericsson in second place and Nokia third."
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/03/07/vodafone_huawei_ban/
"In spite of tensions with the US and its allies, Huawei is rapidly building a suite of AI offerings unmatched by any other company on the planet"
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/612914/chinas-huawei-has-big-ambitions-to-weaken-the-uss-grip-on-ai-leadership/
Cost:
https://www.techradar.com/news/huawei-5g-ban-could-cost-uk-economy-pound68bn
Snowden:
https://techcrunch.com/2019/02/26/huawei-the-us-security-accusation-of-our-5g-has-no-evidence-nothing/
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26712564
https://www.politico.eu/article/huawei-telecoms-mobile-world-congress-fair-how-huawei-won-barcelona/
Rebuff (Spanish):
https://okdiario.com/economia/trump-pide-espana-que-penalice-huawei-sanchez-lo-rechaza-ser-vital-telefonica-3955188
Funny? This is funny...
2) Because wild, unsubstantiated claims don't make proof -- no matter how loudly or often they are repeated.
3) Making technical decisions based on political agendas doesn't usually end well.
The "5G won't do anything" excuse looks pretty weak when, throughout the world, governments and industry are sinking hundreds of billions into it because they know what it will do.
And comparing the unconfirmed suspicians of Huawei to the multiple, confirmed reports of the Russian attacks on our election and election systems is a totally false equivalency.
If you're looking for threats they are literally everywhere you look. Let's not even get into the pesky little details of vast amounts of traffic moving over Huawei gear all over the globe. As it has been for ages with not one single major security issue.
Of course, and as Huawei itself has stated on numerous occasions, any revelation that Huawei has acted in bad faith would mean the instant destruction of the company. Do you really believe they would be so stupid?
If you have even an inkling of evidence to at least support the 'threats' you would be on a better footing.
Of course that evidence is nowhere to be seen and Huawei is suing the US government. One of the theories as to exactly why, is that it wants access to that information and where it is coming from.
Patience:
https://www.lawfareblog.com/huawei-technologies-v-us-summary-and-context
And of course there is the other reason the US wants to see Huawei in the mincer:
https://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/2019/03/in-q4-2018-apple-slipped-into-third-spot-behind-huawei-for-smartphone-shipments-in-europe-the-middle-east-and-africa-emea.html
And another:
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/02/25/huawei_us_electric_grid/
Same names. Same story.
And if you go back to some of the original filings, those intelligence committees even included a company that had nothing at all to do with Huawei - but just happened to have the word in its company name!
Pure Keystone Cops!