Huawei CEO cites Apple as privacy role model
Huawei CEO sings Apple's praises once again, claiming that Apple is his role model when it comes to protecting users' data.

Ren Zhengfei, founder and CEO of Huawei, is yet again lauding Apple's business practices-- this time stating that Apple has the right idea when it comes to protecting users privacy.
This is not the first time that Zhengfei has praised Apple, and has even publicly defended Apple in the U.S.-China trade war, even as his own company suffers from U.S. blacklisting.
As reported by CNBC, Zhengfei has told the Financial Times that he would not provide user data to the Chinese government, much in the way that Apple does not provide data that could compromise its users' privacy. According to him, users own their own data, not Huawei.
"Data is owned by our customers, not us. Carriers have to track every user, otherwise no phone calls could be made. It's a carrier's duty to track user data. We, as an equipment provider, don't track any data," said Zhengfei.
"We will never do such a thing. If I had done it even once, the US would have evidence to spread around the world. Then the 170 countries and regions in which we currently operate would stop buying our products, and our company would collapse."
Huawei is currently looking at a $30 billion loss in revenue for this year, largely due to the U.S. trade ban, leaving them with an $8 billion net profit. Zhengfei expressed his skepticism of the Trump administration's actions.
"[The Chinese government doesn't] intervene in their business operations. I don't know why the US government micro manages its tech companies as much as they do," he said. "They act like a mother-in-law, and if they get too involved, their daughters-in-law might run off."

Ren Zhengfei, founder and CEO of Huawei, is yet again lauding Apple's business practices-- this time stating that Apple has the right idea when it comes to protecting users privacy.
This is not the first time that Zhengfei has praised Apple, and has even publicly defended Apple in the U.S.-China trade war, even as his own company suffers from U.S. blacklisting.
As reported by CNBC, Zhengfei has told the Financial Times that he would not provide user data to the Chinese government, much in the way that Apple does not provide data that could compromise its users' privacy. According to him, users own their own data, not Huawei.
"Data is owned by our customers, not us. Carriers have to track every user, otherwise no phone calls could be made. It's a carrier's duty to track user data. We, as an equipment provider, don't track any data," said Zhengfei.
"We will never do such a thing. If I had done it even once, the US would have evidence to spread around the world. Then the 170 countries and regions in which we currently operate would stop buying our products, and our company would collapse."
Huawei is currently looking at a $30 billion loss in revenue for this year, largely due to the U.S. trade ban, leaving them with an $8 billion net profit. Zhengfei expressed his skepticism of the Trump administration's actions.
"[The Chinese government doesn't] intervene in their business operations. I don't know why the US government micro manages its tech companies as much as they do," he said. "They act like a mother-in-law, and if they get too involved, their daughters-in-law might run off."
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Just ask all those Hong Kong students on the street. :roll eyes:
Oh, and your country is not IT thieves either, no no, Chinese never lie.
(in fact, they’re doing regularly and straight face-ly)
*as I am by 50%
All the while, the realities of this quote from the article have thrown a huge shadow over everything the U.S has claimed:
"the 170 countries and regions in which we currently operate would stop buying our products, and our company would collapse."
That shadow had been there for the last decade.
What would there be to gain? A $100 bn company, the pride of China, a technological leader, would die an instant death. And unnecessarily.
The Chinese government doesn't need Huawei to be able to 'spy'.
Huawei network equipment is managed by the carriers.
Most internet traffic already touches Huawei infrastructure at some point.
No other communications company on the planet is scrutinised on a security level like Huawei. To the point of having its source code inspected. No other company is as advanced as Huawei in areas like 5G.
As a result of U.S actions, Huawei is taking court action to defend itself. The U.S is now officially claiming that the action against Huawei was necessary based solely on the 'possible threat' to national security (of course, there is zero hard evidence of this).
At the same time, the U.S president has undermined the official claims of the government by implying Huawei could be included in a trade deal with China. China has insisted that there will be no negotiation until Huawei has restrictions lifted.
It is clear that Huawei is being used as a trade pawn on one level, and being attacked on another level because of U.S fears of being left behind in a new technological revolution, in which China may play a pivotal role. 'National security' is a ruse and the US case is crumbling. We have seen some very clear comments on this coming out of South Africa and just today there have been some very unfavourable comments attributed to the UK ambassador in Washington.
Now the U.S wants us to believe that Huawei has 'close' ties to the Chinese government (once again without any hard evidence) whereas at the same time it has shown how 'executive orders' can be used to negate the need for ties and force domestic companies ( and even those that are not U.S) to buckle under its demands.
Huawei has a full portfolio of cloud infrastructure built on data privacy. In the case of the EU, with strict user protections, Huawei insists no user files ever leave the EU. It is ironic that some major U.S companies have been investigated for breaching E.U privacy rules.
The U.S action not only caused an estimated $30 billion hole in Huawei revenues but set off a chain reaction that now cannot be stopped or reversed..
Ren recently made another comment (which went largely unreported) that will have sent shockwaves through the U.S tech manufacturing sector.
He said this situation will never happen again as in - two - years, Huawei will have reduced its U.S dependence to zero.
Until then, it's prudent to state that Huawei is an SOE, State Owned Enterprise.
I'm going to do you a favor and only post a single link.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2019/07/06/huawei-employees-linked-to-chinas-state-intelligence-agencies-report-claims/#39cbfce24b24
and the original Telegraph link,
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/07/05/huawei-staff-cvs-reveal-alleged-links-chinese-intelligence-agencies/
and here's the link to the actual document;
https://poseidon01.ssrn.com/delivery.php?ID=531083111122092064001127117117103110030015042050031004028030086000074114119022120024057022106062019059012069012101066070074090119060069077051127000021030121018000064040058057102011090111069028114124016116091101124119019067075096027008024091106002122126&EXT=pdf
Gee, I guess I lied about the single link.
Here's one about the Chinese Government side loading malware into tourist's Android Phones;
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/neayxd/anti-virus-companies-now-flag-malware-china-installs-on-tourists-phones-xinjiang
"Chinese border authorities have planted the malware onto travelers' phones as they passed through Irkeshtam port at the border between Kyrgyzstan and China, a tourist who crossed the border said. A member of the reporting team from Süddeutsche Zeitung also entered China through this point and verified that malware is installed on devices.
After being "side-loaded" onto the phone rather than downloaded from the Google Play Store, the malware uploads the device's text messages, calendar entries, phone logs and contacts to a server, multiple technical analysescommissioned by the reporting team found. The malware also scans the phone for over 73,000 different files. The investigation found these files include clearly extremist material such as Islamic State propaganda, but also passages from the Quran, PDFs related to the Dalai Lama, and music from a Japanese metal group called Unholy Grave. Unholy Grave has a song called "Taiwan: Another China."
Hey Ren, now might be a good time to talk to your government about that malware...which, for the record, can't be installed on any iPhone.
If Huawei says it isn't state owned and, as a private, company doesn't need the transparency you demand, it is up to the accuser to demonstrate otherwise.
You are going to have to live with that. And with the fact that companies like Boeing have received billions in state subsidies and that the U.S government has dished out over $23 bn to keep farming operations a going concern when they would have gone out if business by now as a result of tariffs. There are many more examples and if you add onto that the use of executive orders for state policy, any U.S company might as well be considered state owned too. It depends in where you draw the line.
However, it is pretty much irrelevant in this context as protectionism, privacy and influence the cards currently on the table.
Protectionism. No one outside the U.S even questions this now.
Privacy. Remind me how well U.S companies (and government agencies) have fared with that.
Influence. The U.S feels threatened. Even people within the U.S admit this. The fact that the 'threat' is Chinese (and is becoming reality as we speak) only serves to send paranoia levels still higher.
Now, after all the - real - U.S threats to allies (how ironic) some are simply ignoring the U.S while others even mention jealousy!
https://www.timeslive.co.za/politics/2019-07-05-we-cant-be-held-back-by-us-jealousy-says-ramaphosa-on-huawei-sanctions/
You showed up right on cue to defend the supreme right hand of the Chinese government regurgitating the same BS.
They have been caught, numerous times spanning DECADES. You just refuse to acknowledge it and instead, use deception and “alternative facts”.
just stop it. It’s getting really old.
And, I haven't caught Huawei in a lie yet... I catch our government (USA at least) regularly.
I haven't been following closely enough... but where did that information come from?
(Need I mention 'weapons of mass destruction' or 'babies being thrown out of incubators' or 'chemical weapons on his own people' ...)
So, which should believe?
Oh wait! Even Trump essentially admitted lying about Huawei when he admitted he was using it as part of his trade war. But, the Trumpettes soldier on chanting "USA! USA! USA!" so loud they never heard him.
You really want to state that to all of us?
Lame.
China has no independent journalism, and is an authoritarian, repressive government. At least in the U.S., there are in fact many quality resources for information, in spite of President Trump's attempts to control the message, badly, I might add.
cgWerks said: "I haven't been following closely enough"
You don't wear "poorly informed" very well as your argument.
There's a shit ton of information about Chinese Government directed hacking of Western countries, especially of the U.S. as a shortcut for their militarization, and to advance their commercial interests. Sure, it's fair game to do that, love and war, blah, blah, blah, but do you really want to argue that the U.S. is more repressive than China?
There's also direct evidence that Huawei has stolen technology from Cisco. You might look that up.
I've posted a ton of links in the past to that effect, but, it doesn't seem like some people have an interest.
Here'a a hint; do some research on Belt Road Initiative, and also China's militarization of the South China Seas, Africa, and the Middle East.
Here's a link to read;
https://thediplomat.com/2019/03/chinas-next-phase-of-militarization-in-the-south-china-sea/
That's the same dude who said Apple isn't targeted by the media. LMAO!!!!!!
But, regardless, we aren't talking about either China or Russia or 400 pounders -- just Huawei.
You seem certain of that, yet even Avon B7 stated that there was no way to tell, whereas I at least have links that analyzed this.
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3372669
https://thechinacollection.org/huaweis-ownership-huaweis-statement-response/
"If Huawei says it isn't state owned and, as a private, company doesn't need the transparency you demand, it is up to the accuser to demonstrate otherwise."
That's horseshit.
From a National Security perspective, and taking into account that the Chinese Government is an Authoritarian, repressive one, why would any country give Huawei the "benefit of the doubt" for something as critical as its communication infrastructure.
"I haven't caught Huawei in a lie yet"
Try harder.