Unless there's an earthquake, Steve ain't rollin' over. The man's dead. Please don't misguidedly invoke his memory. His stylus quote was uttered at a different point in time, referencing different tech, and in a context completely different from today's tech. Also the man wasn't intractable in his though processes. That quote was uttered over a decade ago. Things have changed. If he was alive today, I'd bet he'd consider a lot of the thoughts he had a dozen years ago to be no longer be relevant. Pretty sure it's the same way with you, me, and everyone else.
On topic: I personally think it was only a matter of time before the iPhone gained stylus support. I also think the iPhone is going to get it's own iPhone sized version next. The key here is, just like with the iPad, it's an accessory not a requirement. Those who don't want one don't have to get one. Choice is a good thing.
Wow, nice meltdown on something that was absolutely justified for him to express. Jobs wasn't a fan of a stylus for phones because he understood it's a device that's carried in the pocket, purse, etc. which makes no sense to tag along another device that has limited use scenarios when we have 10 built-in styluses. Primary use and benefits of a stylus will always be on a tablet sized device or larger. You charge the Apple pencil through the lightning port, separate USB charger or magnetic attachment on 2nd gen. This obviously creates less than desirable scenarios for a phone that have to be overcome by the design. No one wants a stylus sticking out of their phone while it's charging and they need to use it. Having another charging cable/adapter to mess with is quickly becoming antiquated and the magnetic charging is another process that will have an affect on the phone from both a design and power standpoint. Pretty amazing for you to launch into a preachy lecture without thoroughly thinking over the scenario. The natural touch use and design of the iPhone has not changed in such a way since Jobs announced the first iPhone to necessitate the need for a stylus. If Apple were to keep the pencil at the current size and bring it to the iPhone it would be laughable. A smaller version would have some appeal to a select audience but after a short period as more folding devices,etc. enter the market a stylus on iPhone will go the way of the Mac Cube. So, please don't misguidedly tell other people their perspective is invalid when it's very much based on fact and reality.
Meltdown? Did you write that looking in a mirror? We all know what was going on a decade ago. Has nothing to do with today. Trying to use the same arguments from then makes no sense. Steve ain't rollin' over. George's opinion is his own. I disagree with it. I only read the first an last sentences in your missive so I don't know if I disagree with it or not. Probably disagree considering what I did read. We'll never know.
Yeh, pretty much a meltdown. Simply saying "things have changed" without giving any hint as to exactly what changed to make a stylus suddenly desirable does not make for much of an argument.
The best argument for them that I have seen so far is: "It's optional. Use it if you need it or want it."
But, that doesn't change what Steve thought of it. He kept a very close handle on 'his' products. And, that was my primary point. It wasn't so much about the benefits or problems of using a stylus on a phone -- but that this goes directly against his direction.
It was no meltdown. He gave you the response you deserved. You were digging up Steve and a quote you didn't quite understand.
The context provided by @1STnTENDERBITS is what was needed on the thread, as was @Anome's clarification about the quote's actual reasoning.
LOL... No, you can't spin Steve's quote and stated direction to fit your purposes. Sorry.
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