Apple without Steve and his Keynotes

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This article that explains how Steve will slowly stop doing keynotes because he cannot live up to the hype it generates made me realise how much I love these keynotes and how different my perception of Apple would be without Steve at the top of the company.

Steve is the soul of Apple for the goods and the bads. Apple without Steve would be ...well, (Steve was right again)...in a coma.



Please, Steve, don't stop your Keynotes. I go every year to the MacExpo one in France and, even when they are boring, we leave our jobs early to get home on time for a SF broadcast.

Stay at Apple forever.



By the way, Does anyone have Steve's keynotes on his HDD and in particular one that presents the first iMac ? I'd be very interested at getting it.



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  • Reply 1 of 21
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,354member
    This is a good thing. It means Mac users won't have to wait 6 months for products. They will be announced when ready.



    Look at this year...it's already happening. Apple will be expanding it's products and reach. It needs to start announcing products on a consisten monthly schedule. Good news to me!
  • Reply 2 of 21
    macsrgood4umacsrgood4u Posts: 3,007member
    Apple is finally growing up. SJ ego is not needed to introduce new products as Apple has actually for the past two years been debuting hardware and software all year round.
  • Reply 3 of 21
    fran441fran441 Posts: 3,715member
    The article couldn't be more off base. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />



    Apple is either trying to get the show cancelled or they will attend as they always do. This notion of ending keynotes at Macworld is wrong for 2 reasons:



    1.) Ending the annual keynotes at the East coast and West coast Macworlds or showing up with a smaller booth is going to be nothing but bad publicity for Apple. Apple can't afford to take any bad PR, especially now when Apple seems to be at a crossroads.



    2.) Steve Jobs' ego. Never underestimate this. People pay thousands of dollars and fly in from all over the country (and the world for that matter) just to see this man talk about the next big things for Apple and the tech industry. The keynote addresses are his public forum where he has the attention of the computer industry and the press. He is not going to give it up so lightly.



    While we might see a move away from major keynote introductions (like we already have), there will still undoubtedly be a Jobs keynote at these 2 shows.



    Apple is also going to show up for the Boston show in 2004 as well. They are just using their leverage with IDG to get a better deal. Since IDG is basically getting a brand new convention center for free, I'm sure that they and Apple will come to an agreement. After all, Apple was all for this move until it was announced.
  • Reply 4 of 21
    dogcowdogcow Posts: 713member
    I'm just going to wait and see... these things always sound far more dramatic in writing than they really are.



    [ 03-10-2003: Message edited by: Dogcow ]</p>
  • Reply 5 of 21
    Aww man.. So the iNewt and PM 970 is only going to get a little pressrelease?



    Back to reality.. <img src="graemlins/cancer.gif" border="0" alt="[cancer]" />
  • Reply 6 of 21
    willoughbywilloughby Posts: 1,457member
    [quote]Originally posted by Fran441:

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    Apple is also going to show up for the Boston show in 2004 as well.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    You wanna put a little money on that?







    You talk about Job's ego in one sentence and then in the next you're basically saying he's going to go back on his word. He said he didn't want the show to move back to Boston and they wouldn't participate if it did. IDG basically said F-U, we're moving it. I think Job's is going to let his ego get the best of him and not participate at the Boston show.



    However, this doesn't mean that Apple won't start their own East Coast show, even on a small scale.



    I'll see you at Apple Expo NY 2004
  • Reply 7 of 21
    jlljll Posts: 2,713member
    [quote]Originally posted by Minimac:

    <strong>By the way, Does anyone have Steve's keynotes on his HDD and in particular one that presents the first iMac ? I'd be very interested at getting it.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Funny you mention it, because the iMac wasn't introduced during a keynote - it was a special event which (if Jobs drops the keynotes) is a model that Apple probably will continue to use to launch new models.
  • Reply 8 of 21
    fran441fran441 Posts: 3,715member
    [quote]He said he didn't want the show to move back to Boston and they wouldn't participate if it did. IDG basically said F-U, we're moving it. I think Job's is going to let his ego get the best of him and not participate at the Boston show.<hr></blockquote>



    That would be the case if it were true. Apple and IDG met and talked about the move to Boston. Apple said they were all for the move since it would allow smaller businesses and 3rd parties, who thought the NY show was too expensive, to exhibit.



    It was only after IDG announced the deal and was at Boston City Hall having an official ceremony that Apple 'decided' they didn't want to go.



    They went from being 'all for it' the night before to 'totally against it' when the deal was done. Also, Jobs has not spoken 'on the record' about this. I think they are just trying to get a sweeter deal while they can.
  • Reply 9 of 21
    amorphamorph Posts: 7,112member
    I actually think Jobs' ego is what is moving him away from biannual keynotes. Sure, he's had some killer keynotes (the last one, for example), but he's also walked on stage and gotten his ass kicked, because he's had to try to make a Stevenote out of next to nothing.



    If Apple wants attention, they can get attention. Steve can reserve an auditorium on the Apple campus, send a note out to the press on a week's notice, expect a packed house and widespread coverage, and (this is crucial) expect to have something worth talking about.



    On the other hand, we'll all lose something with the loss of the Stevenote (although he might continue to keynote MWSF). But that's our loss, not Steve's.
  • Reply 10 of 21
    cosmonutcosmonut Posts: 4,872member
    [quote]Originally posted by Amorph:

    <strong>...we'll all lose something with the loss of the Stevenote (although he might continue to keynote MWSF). But that's our loss, not Steve's.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    The only thing people here are going to lose is the ability to make overzealous predictions about phantom hardware that NEVER turns up in a keynote.



    If I had a nickel for every user here who's gotten pissed at Apple because they were let down by something that WASN'T debuted at a Stevenote, I could buy a top of the line Power Mac with dual 23" HD displays -- and still have money left over for a 17" Powerbook.



    It's better JUST for the people here for Steve to stop doing keynotes. You all won't get all hyped up for nothing. It seems to be good when all of a sudden Apple releases something, and everyone here goes "Whoopee! We never saw this coming!"



    Hollah if ya' hear me!



    [ 03-10-2003: Message edited by: CosmoNut ]</p>
  • Reply 11 of 21
    jaredjared Posts: 639member
    All I know is that I love watching the guy speak.



    I met Steve a couple times and you really feel his passion when he talks.



    I know I am not the only one who stays up all night waiting for these keynotes.



    Steve's public RDF will be misssed... <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
  • Reply 12 of 21
    [quote]Originally posted by CosmoNut:

    <strong>



    The only thing people here are going to lose is the ability to make overzealous predictions about phantom hardware that NEVER turns up in a keynote.



    If I had a nickel for every user here who's gotten pissed at Apple because they were let down by something that WASN'T debuted at a Stevenote, I could buy a top of the line Power Mac with dual 23" HD displays -- and still have money left over for a 17" Powerbook.



    It's better JUST for the people here for Steve to stop doing keynotes. You all won't get all hyped up for nothing. It seems to be good when all of a sudden Apple releases something, and everyone here goes "Whoopee! We never saw this coming!"



    Hollah if ya' hear me!



    [ 03-10-2003: Message edited by: CosmoNut ]</strong><hr></blockquote>



    &lt;&lt;hollering&gt;&gt; Amen
  • Reply 13 of 21
    matsumatsu Posts: 6,558member
    Steve's reputation for actual insight and innovation is ill deserved. However, for better or worse, he is a major cog holding the machinery in place. Without Jobs, Apple would instantly suffer a major blow in the eyes of the mac community, devs and investors. They're stuck with each other.
  • Reply 14 of 21
    drewpropsdrewprops Posts: 2,321member
    I'm so cool you could store a side of beef in me.



    I'm so hip I have trouble seeing over my pelvis.
  • Reply 15 of 21
    stunnedstunned Posts: 1,096member
    If I recall correctly, each Keynote cost about a million dollars to produce.



    Keynotes are great and entertaining, but mainly watched by the pro-Mac crowd. This has minimal effect on attracting switchers. The money is better invested elsewhere. Perhapes have more marketing efforts in schools or hire more marketing staff to demostrate the advantage of macs in schools or shops.
  • Reply 16 of 21
    guarthoguartho Posts: 1,208member
    [quote]Originally posted by drewprops:

    <strong>I'm so cool you could store a side of beef in me.



    I'm so hip I have trouble seeing over my pelvis.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Zaphod, Zaphod is that you?
  • Reply 17 of 21
    minimacminimac Posts: 40member
    [quote]Keynotes are great and entertaining, but mainly watched by the pro-Mac crowd. This has minimal effect on attracting switchers.<hr></blockquote>



    Keynotes are watched by the pro-mac and the mac-fans, the same ones who make the switchers switch.



    Keynotes keep the magic on. Those keynotes might cost 1 million each, and yes, this could be invested in something else...just like DELL probably do...efficiently. But do you want Apple to become one of those tasteless and beige PC company ?



    Jobs' keynotes forever
  • Reply 18 of 21
    shetlineshetline Posts: 4,695member
    [quote]Originally posted by stunned:

    <strong>If I recall correctly, each Keynote cost about a million dollars to produce.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    If this is true, <a href="http://www.apple.com/keynote/"; target="_blank">how could they sell them for $99 each?</a>
  • Reply 19 of 21
    ibrowseibrowse Posts: 1,749member
    The keynote's make using a Mac more fun. It's part of the 'cult' status that we enjoy so much. Sitting there, listening to Jobs talk, extending the RDF through the quicktime stream, winning over everybody in the room, it's amazing to watch and I wait up all night every 6 months. I would like to see Apple move away from using it as the main time to announce new stuff and be more spontaneous with their updates, but I really like the keynotes. Even if the keynotes stay only in the form of a 'State of The Apple Address', I want to be able to look forward to one every 6 months.
  • Reply 20 of 21
    rokrok Posts: 3,519member
    just a thought, but if steve stops doing regular keynotes, can you imagine the hype and fervor that would be generated whenever he DID appear at a keynote??? we've taken it for granted that he will ALWAYS be at a major apple expo keynote...
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