an awful lot of people want Apple to fail and fail big time. If Apple filed for Chapter 11, they would be partying for the next year.
These are the people that hate Apple and everything they stand for.
Bloomberg and the rest love to put Apple down because of the anger caused by the articles results in millions of clicks and Ad impressions which means money and money pays the hacks that write the tripe in the first place. And round the circle goes.
Those on Wall St that short Tech Stocks love it for obvious reasons. APPL drops in price and they make money.
OTOH, Apple gets a lot of free publicity from all this negativity and the backlash to it.
The day Steve Jobs died the C|net article about his death was deluged with hatred and glee over his death. Some were even trying to organize a party to meet at his grave and piss on it. Fortunately he is buried in an unmarked grave in a Palo Alto cemetery so no one knows where it is. That’s what the Internet is, was, and will always be. And C|net did nothing about it. But criticize a liberal ideology and you’re banned.
You were doing so well until your political paranoia set it.
I would throw in another thought: by making cash back 2% for ApplePay purchases but 1% when using the physical card, Apple is encouraging users to break habit of “just taking out a card” and, in fact, putting pressure on vendors via their customers to equip with NFC readers.
There are still many places (in the US) that take credit cards via chip or swipe but do not have contactless readers.
I for one ask every retailer I buy from if they take Apple Pay - even if I know they don’t. If they hear it enough it will hopefully get them to give it serious consideration leading to implementation.
an awful lot of people want Apple to fail and fail big time. If Apple filed for Chapter 11, they would be partying for the next year.
These are the people that hate Apple and everything they stand for.
Bloomberg and the rest love to put Apple down because of the anger caused by the articles results in millions of clicks and Ad impressions which means money and money pays the hacks that write the tripe in the first place. And round the circle goes.
Those on Wall St that short Tech Stocks love it for obvious reasons. APPL drops in price and they make money.
OTOH, Apple gets a lot of free publicity from all this negativity and the backlash to it.
The day Steve Jobs died the C|net article about his death was deluged with hatred and glee over his death. Some were even trying to organize a party to meet at his grave and piss on it. Fortunately he is buried in an unmarked grave in a Palo Alto cemetery so no one knows where it is. That’s what the Internet is, was, and will always be. And C|net did nothing about it. But criticize a liberal ideology and you’re banned.
I hope this isn't true.
I read the posts with my own eyes and contacted c|net to take them down. They declined. Free speech and all that.
an awful lot of people want Apple to fail and fail big time. If Apple filed for Chapter 11, they would be partying for the next year.
These are the people that hate Apple and everything they stand for.
Bloomberg and the rest love to put Apple down because of the anger caused by the articles results in millions of clicks and Ad impressions which means money and money pays the hacks that write the tripe in the first place. And round the circle goes.
Those on Wall St that short Tech Stocks love it for obvious reasons. APPL drops in price and they make money.
OTOH, Apple gets a lot of free publicity from all this negativity and the backlash to it.
The day Steve Jobs died the C|net article about his death was deluged with hatred and glee over his death. Some were even trying to organize a party to meet at his grave and piss on it. Fortunately he is buried in an unmarked grave in a Palo Alto cemetery so no one knows where it is. That’s what the Internet is, was, and will always be. And C|net did nothing about it. But criticize a liberal ideology and you’re banned.
I hope this isn't true.
I read the posts with my own eyes and contacted c|net to take them down. They declined. Free speech and all that.
an awful lot of people want Apple to fail and fail big time. If Apple filed for Chapter 11, they would be partying for the next year.
These are the people that hate Apple and everything they stand for.
Bloomberg and the rest love to put Apple down because of the anger caused by the articles results in millions of clicks and Ad impressions which means money and money pays the hacks that write the tripe in the first place. And round the circle goes.
Those on Wall St that short Tech Stocks love it for obvious reasons. APPL drops in price and they make money.
OTOH, Apple gets a lot of free publicity from all this negativity and the backlash to it.
The day Steve Jobs died the C|net article about his death was deluged with hatred and glee over his death. Some were even trying to organize a party to meet at his grave and piss on it. Fortunately he is buried in an unmarked grave in a Palo Alto cemetery so no one knows where it is. That’s what the Internet is, was, and will always be. And C|net did nothing about it. But criticize a liberal ideology and you’re banned.
I hope this isn't true.
I read the posts with my own eyes and contacted c|net to take them down. They declined. Free speech and all that.
Some sites are afraid of losing hits if their moderation is seen as censorship. That's sad. There's nothing wrong with expecting and demanding civility from commenters. Though that might apply to me too.
an awful lot of people want Apple to fail and fail big time. If Apple filed for Chapter 11, they would be partying for the next year.
These are the people that hate Apple and everything they stand for.
Bloomberg and the rest love to put Apple down because of the anger caused by the articles results in millions of clicks and Ad impressions which means money and money pays the hacks that write the tripe in the first place. And round the circle goes.
Those on Wall St that short Tech Stocks love it for obvious reasons. APPL drops in price and they make money.
OTOH, Apple gets a lot of free publicity from all this negativity and the backlash to it.
The day Steve Jobs died the C|net article about his death was deluged with hatred and glee over his death. Some were even trying to organize a party to meet at his grave and piss on it. Fortunately he is buried in an unmarked grave in a Palo Alto cemetery so no one knows where it is. That’s what the Internet is, was, and will always be. And C|net did nothing about it. But criticize a liberal ideology and you’re banned.
I hope this isn't true.
I read the posts with my own eyes and contacted c|net to take them down. They declined. Free speech and all that.
This kind of hatred I do not understand.
I don't understand it either but I think it's fostered by anonymity and imagined entitlement, and somebody channeling their inner 8chan.
I’ve been an Apple user since 1982 and have experienced firsthand the negativity and hatred of Apple by so many pundits, analysts, and self appointed experts over the years.
It is just the same w.r.t. Electric Vehicles. There are big players behind a lot of anti-EV rhetoric possibly Big-oil/coal. They are spending huge amounts of money to discredit EV's as a whole and in particular Tesla.
There will be people looking at making billions taking down Apple, Amazon and the rest.
The big automakers are committing hundreds of billions of dollars to electrics, and in case you were unaware, half of the Koch Brothers died yesterday. The oil industry is still a powerful entity, but coal is on its deathbed for power production.
Of note, Tesla isn't in a strong position to fight off the big automakers. Case in point is the Porsche Taycan, which competes head on with the the Model S, Jaguar iPace which competes withe the Model X, and a number of Model 3 competitors, especially the Nissan Leaf.
"Should Tesla be worried? Absolutely. Even from the passenger seat, it's clear the Porsche is dynamically superior in every way. And if the numbers we've seen hold up under our testing, go-fast Teslas such as the Model S 100D may not have a decisive range advantage over the Taycan, especially when driven hard. Combine that with noticeably better build quality—even on the preproduction car—and the cachet of that Porsche badge, and it all adds up to one thing: The Taycan is a game-changer."
I’ve been an Apple user since 1982 and have experienced firsthand the negativity and hatred of Apple by so many pundits, analysts, and self appointed experts over the years.
It is just the same w.r.t. Electric Vehicles. There are big players behind a lot of anti-EV rhetoric possibly Big-oil/coal. They are spending huge amounts of money to discredit EV's as a whole and in particular Tesla.
There will be people looking at making billions taking down Apple, Amazon and the rest.
The big automakers are committing hundreds of billions of dollars to electrics, and in case you were unaware, half of the Koch Brothers died yesterday. The oil industry is still a powerful entity, but coal is on its deathbed for power production.
Of note, Tesla isn't in a strong position to fight off the big automakers. Case in point is the Porsche Taycan, which competes head on with the the Model S, Jaguar iPace which competes withe the Model X, and a number of Model 3 competitors, especially the Nissan Leaf.
As to the Taycan, I'll hold my verdict until it has spent a few months in real-world conditions. And, the "big" automakers have so far repeatedly and badly over-promised/under-delivered. I don't know whether and how long Tesla will last (I am guessing they'll bought out at some point by the likes of a Google), but they do seem to be quite far ahead of the EV game as of now.
"The Wall Street Journal reports on sales data from the Dominion Cross-Sell report, which shows that Model S registrations were down 54 percent in California last quarter. California is Tesla's largest market, with 40 percent of Model S sales taking place in that state in 2018. Model X sales were also down 40 percent in California in the second quarter of 2019, Dominion found. The WSJ says that changes to which Tesla models are the most popular are going to, "threaten Tesla's growth goals and profit ambitions."
I would be impressed if Tesla could survive on Model 3 sales alone. They can't.
I made my first purchase on Apple Card tonight (a movie rental on Apple TV) and it hasn't shown up in Wallet yet. I thought one of the benefits of Apple Card is the quickness of response? So far, it's just another poky credit card.
I’ve been an Apple user since 1982 and have experienced firsthand the negativity and hatred of Apple by so many pundits, analysts, and self appointed experts over the years.
It is just the same w.r.t. Electric Vehicles. There are big players behind a lot of anti-EV rhetoric possibly Big-oil/coal. They are spending huge amounts of money to discredit EV's as a whole and in particular Tesla.
There will be people looking at making billions taking down Apple, Amazon and the rest.
The big automakers are committing hundreds of billions of dollars to electrics, and in case you were unaware, half of the Koch Brothers died yesterday. The oil industry is still a powerful entity, but coal is on its deathbed for power production.
Of note, Tesla isn't in a strong position to fight off the big automakers. Case in point is the Porsche Taycan, which competes head on with the the Model S, Jaguar iPace which competes withe the Model X, and a number of Model 3 competitors, especially the Nissan Leaf.
As to the Taycan, I'll hold my verdict until it has spent a few months in real-world conditions. And, the "big" automakers have so far repeatedly and badly over-promised/under-delivered. I don't know whether and how long Tesla will last (I am guessing they'll bought out at some point by the likes of a Google), but they do seem to be quite far ahead of the EV game as of now.
"The Wall Street Journal reports on sales data from the Dominion Cross-Sell report, which shows that Model S registrations were down 54 percent in California last quarter. California is Tesla's largest market, with 40 percent of Model S sales taking place in that state in 2018. Model X sales were also down 40 percent in California in the second quarter of 2019, Dominion found. The WSJ says that changes to which Tesla models are the most popular are going to, "threaten Tesla's growth goals and profit ambitions."
I would be impressed if Tesla could survive on Model 3 sales alone. They can't.
There were many whispers in the Telsa fandomsphere (of which I am a member) that Tesla internally debated whether to cease production of the S & X to focus more on the 3 and the upcoming Y. The Y should be a bigger seller than the 3 as it is a crossover rather than a sedan like the 3. Also by the end of the year the Shanghai factory should be online but of course bulk production will take some time after that. Many are fairly confident Telsa should do well. If you don't feel the same way that is totally fine - it is not really up to us after all :-)
I made my first purchase on Apple Card tonight (a movie rental on Apple TV) and it hasn't shown up in Wallet yet. I thought one of the benefits of Apple Card is the quickness of response? So far, it's just another poky credit card.
If it hasn't been physically charged yet then it might not appear. This isn't the fault of Apple Card...its the fault of whomever you rented from, even if its Apple.
"The Wall Street Journal reports on sales data from the Dominion Cross-Sell report, which shows that Model S registrations were down 54 percent in...
Do you see the irony in citing a headline grabbing, doom predicting article about a forward looking upstart company in the comment section of an article that references the long history of headline grabbing, doom predicting articles about a forward looking upstart company?
I mean, I don’t really follow Tesla, but I do know that they have been reported as beleaguered pretty much their entire history, and they are still kicking (and everyone is still talking about them)...
I think this is an excellent piece by DED. I've been reading Apple articles, forums, etc since around 1999'ish and things haven't changed. It's always about Apple and how they're doomed or are destined to eventually fail, even when they're booming. This was even going on when Steve Jobs was CEO. I think some people just don't get Apple. Apple doesn't need to be on top to succeed. It's cool when they are and I'm sure it makes Apple and its employees and shareholders (ugh!) feel good, but that's not what's important. If you think differently then I think you're one of those that just doesn't understand Apple as a company and probably never will. I'm not really sure if Apple has ever strived to be on top of anything. They'd rather make something that makes a difference in people's lives and just works seamlessly than focus on selling the most. If Apple wanted to focus on selling the most they could very well do that and probably succeed at doing so, but in the end where does that get them? It's basically a pissing contest that Apple doesn't want to participate in (one of many) and I think it confuses people or something.
People can piss and moan all they want about the prices of Apple's products today, but they do sell and sell well. Yes, they could lower prices and sell more but again that's not Apple's focus. Apple is not in a race to the bottom. If you want to play that game then Windows, Android, ChromeOS, etc is your platform of choice. I think some also forget it's not free to develop a brand new iPhone every single year (sometimes more than one). It's not free for Apple to develop a new version of iOS every year and offer it as a free upgrade and support phones that are sometimes 5yrs old. Samsung, LG, and other Android manufacturers don't necessarily have to worry about developing an OS for its phone because Google and the carriers does most of the work for them. They don't have to worry about new OS features, or App Store features, or hosting an App Store, creating developer tools with new and improved features, API's, etc every year. Let's see Android manufacturers start doing all of this as well as other things I didn't even mention and we'll see where the prices go on their phones. They won't do it because they're stuck in this pissing contest and think they're winning the battle, but in the end, they're losing the war.
There were many whispers in the Telsa fandomsphere (of which I am a member) that Tesla internally debated whether to cease production of the S & X to focus more on the 3 and the upcoming Y. The Y should be a bigger seller than the 3 as it is a crossover rather than a sedan like the 3. Also by the end of the year the Shanghai factory should be online but of course bulk production will take some time after that. Many are fairly confident Telsa should do well. If you don't feel the same way that is totally fine - it is not really up to us after all :-)
If Tesla drop the S & X then they are well on their way to becoming the Ford of the Model 'T' era. With the limited number of colours and options the 'Any colour as long as it is black' phrase could come to haunt Tesla.
Remember that many key people left Ford back then and made GM into what it became in the 1920's/30's. They offered more choice with their cars and yet Ford carried on with the basic 'T' long past its sell by date.
I really hope that Tesla does learn from history.
We need more choice in EV's not less.
I wouldn't be driving my I-Pace if it wasn't for Tesla existing.
"The Wall Street Journal reports on sales data from the Dominion Cross-Sell report, which shows that Model S registrations were down 54 percent in...
Do you see the irony in citing a headline grabbing, doom predicting article about a forward looking upstart company in the comment section of an article that references the long history of headline grabbing, doom predicting articles about a forward looking upstart company?
I mean, I don’t really follow Tesla, but I do know that they have been reported as beleaguered pretty much their entire history, and they are still kicking (and everyone is still talking about them)...
"The Wall Street Journal reports on sales data from the Dominion Cross-Sell report, which shows that Model S registrations were down 54 percent in...
Do you see the irony in citing a headline grabbing, doom predicting article about a forward looking upstart company in the comment section of an article that references the long history of headline grabbing, doom predicting articles about a forward looking upstart company?
I mean, I don’t really follow Tesla, but I do know that they have been reported as beleaguered pretty much their entire history, and they are still kicking (and everyone is still talking about them)...
Maybe you should start following the Walmart/Amazon Solar City story about faulty installs that are causing fires at warehouses, not to mention homes. It's specifically as story that plagues not only Solar City, which Tesla absorbed from his cousins, with an ongoing investor lawsuit to boot, but mores, a story of how Tesla is short on quality, and long on cutting corners, including at the Fremont Plant. As well, Tesla service and parts is an abysmal mess, when compared to just about any other automotive manufacturer in the world.
As for the irony, it's notable that during Tesla's entire history, they have at best a half a dozen profitable quarters, and some of those were due to financial engineering. This is not an analog of Apple by any stretch.
Those profit numbers, or lack thereof, are a definition of beleaguered, and with the upcoming recession, and world wide overproduction of automobiles, the only way Tesla will survive is with more investment. But where is that investment coming from if Tesla has 100's of millions of liabilities just from Solar City, with increased competition, and frankly, with overaged Model S design?
There were many whispers in the Telsa fandomsphere (of which I am a member) that Tesla internally debated whether to cease production of the S & X to focus more on the 3 and the upcoming Y. The Y should be a bigger seller than the 3 as it is a crossover rather than a sedan like the 3. Also by the end of the year the Shanghai factory should be online but of course bulk production will take some time after that. Many are fairly confident Telsa should do well. If you don't feel the same way that is totally fine - it is not really up to us after all :-)
If Tesla drop the S & X then they are well on their way to becoming the Ford of the Model 'T' era. With the limited number of colours and options the 'Any colour as long as it is black' phrase could come to haunt Tesla.
Remember that many key people left Ford back then and made GM into what it became in the 1920's/30's. They offered more choice with their cars and yet Ford carried on with the basic 'T' long past its sell by date.
I really hope that Tesla does learn from history.
We need more choice in EV's not less.
I wouldn't be driving my I-Pace if it wasn't for Tesla existing.
You seem to agree with me, and I would hope that your I-Pace is working out well.
I credit Tesla with inspiring the EV industry, and the subsidies, that created it, but Tesla hasn't demonstrated an ability to compete well against major automobile manufacturers that are really good at churning out profitable vehicles, of very high quality and specification. Given that federal subsidies for Tesla are close to disappearing, and the fact that there will never be a $35,000 model 3, I don't see an upside for Tesla sales.
I made my first purchase on Apple Card tonight (a movie rental on Apple TV) and it hasn't shown up in Wallet yet. I thought one of the benefits of Apple Card is the quickness of response? So far, it's just another poky credit card.
Because your other credit card purchases have shown up so much faster?
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I don't understand it either but I think it's fostered by anonymity and imagined entitlement, and somebody channeling their inner 8chan.
"Should Tesla be worried? Absolutely. Even from the passenger seat, it's clear the Porsche is dynamically superior in every way. And if the numbers we've seen hold up under our testing, go-fast Teslas such as the Model S 100D may not have a decisive range advantage over the Taycan, especially when driven hard. Combine that with noticeably better build quality—even on the preproduction car—and the cachet of that Porsche badge, and it all adds up to one thing: The Taycan is a game-changer."
"The Wall Street Journal reports on sales data from the Dominion Cross-Sell report, which shows that Model S registrations were down 54 percent in California last quarter. California is Tesla's largest market, with 40 percent of Model S sales taking place in that state in 2018. Model X sales were also down 40 percent in California in the second quarter of 2019, Dominion found. The WSJ says that changes to which Tesla models are the most popular are going to, "threaten Tesla's growth goals and profit ambitions."
Many are fairly confident Telsa should do well. If you don't feel the same way that is totally fine - it is not really up to us after all :-)
Too bad morons will respond with none of the above and call DED an "iSheep" or say something stupid like "Stopped reading after..."
I mean, I don’t really follow Tesla, but I do know that they have been reported as beleaguered pretty much their entire history, and they are still kicking (and everyone is still talking about them)...
People can piss and moan all they want about the prices of Apple's products today, but they do sell and sell well. Yes, they could lower prices and sell more but again that's not Apple's focus. Apple is not in a race to the bottom. If you want to play that game then Windows, Android, ChromeOS, etc is your platform of choice. I think some also forget it's not free to develop a brand new iPhone every single year (sometimes more than one). It's not free for Apple to develop a new version of iOS every year and offer it as a free upgrade and support phones that are sometimes 5yrs old. Samsung, LG, and other Android manufacturers don't necessarily have to worry about developing an OS for its phone because Google and the carriers does most of the work for them. They don't have to worry about new OS features, or App Store features, or hosting an App Store, creating developer tools with new and improved features, API's, etc every year. Let's see Android manufacturers start doing all of this as well as other things I didn't even mention and we'll see where the prices go on their phones. They won't do it because they're stuck in this pissing contest and think they're winning the battle, but in the end, they're losing the war.
As for the irony, it's notable that during Tesla's entire history, they have at best a half a dozen profitable quarters, and some of those were due to financial engineering. This is not an analog of Apple by any stretch.
Those profit numbers, or lack thereof, are a definition of beleaguered, and with the upcoming recession, and world wide overproduction of automobiles, the only way Tesla will survive is with more investment. But where is that investment coming from if Tesla has 100's of millions of liabilities just from Solar City, with increased competition, and frankly, with overaged Model S design?
I credit Tesla with inspiring the EV industry, and the subsidies, that created it, but Tesla hasn't demonstrated an ability to compete well against major automobile manufacturers that are really good at churning out profitable vehicles, of very high quality and specification. Given that federal subsidies for Tesla are close to disappearing, and the fact that there will never be a $35,000 model 3, I don't see an upside for Tesla sales.