Editorial: Samsung hasn't copied Apple TV+ yet, but it's only a matter of time

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  • Reply 41 of 47
    I don't think they will copy Apple, but if they do it will be a shame. Will just show they have no originality.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 42 of 47
    avon b7avon b7 Posts: 7,691member
    I don't think they will copy Apple, but if they do it will be a shame. Will just show they have no originality.
    To be fair. Apple's idea is hardly original. By this logic they are copying numerous other companies. If Samsung moved into full on original content creation and deployment it would be just another company entering the fray.

  • Reply 43 of 47
    mobirdmobird Posts: 753member
    gatorguy said:
    I wouldn’t be surprised if, one of these days, Samsung buys Roku. Like they did Harmon Kardon (which was an incredible lost opportunity for Apple, at multiple levels). 
    Many of our members are probably unaware of just what Samsung's jHarmon buy got them:
    -JBL
    -Infinity
    -AKG
    -Mark Levinson
    -Revel
    -Digitech
    -JBL Professional

    and several more niche lines. 
    Phenomenal equipment.
    They also have the Spark, we use one in our Ford Edge Sport.
  • Reply 44 of 47
    AppleExposedAppleExposed Posts: 1,805unconfirmed, member
    Funny comments. As if Samsung is a company that creates original ideas and never reacts to Apple. LMAO!!

    This editorial is definitely not your best effort William.  Doesn't seem like a Gallagher piece.  It reads like a DED editorial except it's way, way, waaaaaaaaaaay too short to be from DED.  It's nothing more than tropes strung together to support a tenuous narrative. 
    Apart from ATV+ you can't think of anything Samsung hasn't copied from Apple? 
    If true, you aren't thinking very hard.  They absolutely copied Apple on early iPhones and iPads.  Watch? Nope.  AirPods? Nope.  Modern phones and iPads? Nope.  To base your editorial on Samsung's reliance on past copying is about as relevant as someone writing an editorial in 2019 based on Antennae-gate iPhone 4.
    Apple may no longer quote iPhone sales figures, and Samsung always optimistically reports numbers of phones made rather than actually sold. 
    You gotta source for that little nugget?  Afaik, Samsung never reported their numbers and both companies record their sales in almost the exact same way.  Shipped.

    I seriously doubt Samsung would introduce a streaming service.  They have no reason to do so.  You're right that they have the same large audience that Apple does.  Though they don't have the same need for services that Apple does.  Samsung is a conglomerate with multiple parts.  They rely on different parts at different times to support the whole.  Sometimes phones floats the boat.  Sometimes it chips.  Sometimes it's the S. Korean government easing punishment on Samsung execs.  :D Besides, Samsung is terrible at services and their management seems to know it.  They're a better facilitator. Get all those services on their TV's seems to be a more rational goal for Samsung.

    It would be really surprising if Samsung debuted a streaming service.  On the outside chance they did, I'd bet it would be a local streaming service where they wouldn't be bidding against established players for expensive content.

    Besides their knockoff iPhones/iPads Here's some products you might have forgotten:

    Apple Watch and AirPods.

    Sammy reads into Apple patents and craps out half-baked products to convince iKnockoff morons they "invented" something or Apple copied them.
    Same reason Galaxy Fold was crapped out. We can go on forever.

    The funny thing is Galaxy Gear and Galaxypods were somewhat original although half-assed attempts and then they started copying Apple with Watch icons and AirPods marketing.

    This one's embarrassing:




    edited October 2019 watto_cobra
  • Reply 45 of 47
    sacto joe said:
    This editorial is definitely not your best effort William.  Doesn't seem like a Gallagher piece.  It reads like a DED editorial except it's way, way, waaaaaaaaaaay too short to be from DED.  It's nothing more than tropes strung together to support a tenuous narrative. 
    Apart from ATV+ you can't think of anything Samsung hasn't copied from Apple? 
    If true, you aren't thinking very hard.  They absolutely copied Apple on early iPhones and iPads.  Watch? Nope.  AirPods? Nope.  Modern phones and iPads? Nope.  To base your editorial on Samsung's reliance on past copying is about as relevant as someone writing an editorial in 2019 based on Antennae-gate iPhone 4.
    Apple may no longer quote iPhone sales figures, and Samsung always optimistically reports numbers of phones made rather than actually sold. 
    You gotta source for that little nugget?  Afaik, Samsung never reported their numbers and both companies record their sales in almost the exact same way.  Shipped.

    I seriously doubt Samsung would introduce a streaming service.  They have no reason to do so.  You're right that they have the same large audience that Apple does.  Though they don't have the same need for services that Apple does.  Samsung is a conglomerate with multiple parts.  They rely on different parts at different times to support the whole.  Sometimes phones floats the boat.  Sometimes it chips.  Sometimes it's the S. Korean government easing punishment on Samsung execs.  :D Besides, Samsung is terrible at services and their management seems to know it.  They're a better facilitator. Get all those services on their TV's seems to be a more rational goal for Samsung.

    It would be really surprising if Samsung debuted a streaming service.  On the outside chance they did, I'd bet it would be a local streaming service where they wouldn't be bidding against established players for expensive content.


    Bruh. Sam absolutely copied Apple on tablets (the same as the phones) and the watch. Samsung knee Apple was developing the watch for years. They barely beat Apple to the market with on ok product. Then Apple released theirs and Samsung altered time fit the Apple model. 

    Music? Check. 

    Wireless earphones? Check. You really need to do some research. 

    Samsung uses Apple as their R&D dept. it’s dark comedy. 

    Samsung tried to do something on their own with the Fold. It sucks. 

    I doubt they keep pushing it. Probably go the Microsoft route in the future. 

    Samsung makes some of the best TVs and some nice washers, dryers, and refrigerators. 

    All of their CE devices are straight up ripoffs of Apple. In fact, they full on shamlelessly apes the look and software experience until they were found guilty. 

    They don’t even have their own roadmap. It’s based on apples. Their game is to learn what Apple is doing, and try to get to market doing the same thing but get their first. Corporate espionage is not new for them. Straight up plagiarism is not new. 

    And the times they didn’t know enough of what Apple was doing, so their product stank, they just waited for Apple to reveal their hand and then came out with an update or new revision. 

    Samsung is a copy machine. It’s just how it is. 


    I need to do some research?  Tee hee.  Pots and kettles come to mind.  Bud, history backs my claims.  There's nothing I claimed that can't be backed with actual facts.  You on the other hand?  I seriously doubt you could produce a single fact to support your assertions about the watch and headphones.  Let me save you some time.  There are no facts that support your assertions.  By the time the Apple watch was released in 2015, Samsung was already on their 4th watch model.  The Gear Icon X (now Galaxy Buds) were released before the AirPods and have had the same design language throughout.  Never remotely resembled AirPods.  

    Like I said, the copied Apple design language early on.  The last Galaxy phone to even partially look like an iPhone was the S2 (it really didn't look like an iPhone, there was UI copying).  To be fair, every tablet is going to resemble the iPad since the general shape of tablets has never changed.  But even in AI comparison of the iPad Pro and Tab 6, you can see the difference between the two designs - front and back.
    The actual fact is that Apple had a wristwatch computer long before Samsung.

    https://www.cultofmac.com/57492/new-ipod-nano-more-than-just-a-pretty-wristwatch/
    The actual actual fact is that Samsung had a wristwatch-computer-phone/w even rudimentary voice control... more than a decade before the ipod nano.  Say hello to the Samsung SPH-WP10.  Now I don't list this as a these guys did it first flag in the sand (they didn't do it first).  That's an activity for fanboy idiots.  I list it as more evidence to back my claim that Samsung's watch efforts predate the Apple watch.  
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=27&v=NmKDn356Etk
    Unlike that steam-punk boat anchor, the iPod Nano was actually both truly wearable and popular. But thanks for showing us what a smart-watch SHOULDN’T look like....
    williamlondonwatto_cobra
  • Reply 46 of 47
    sacto joe said:
    sacto joe said:
    This editorial is definitely not your best effort William.  Doesn't seem like a Gallagher piece.  It reads like a DED editorial except it's way, way, waaaaaaaaaaay too short to be from DED.  It's nothing more than tropes strung together to support a tenuous narrative. 
    Apart from ATV+ you can't think of anything Samsung hasn't copied from Apple? 
    If true, you aren't thinking very hard.  They absolutely copied Apple on early iPhones and iPads.  Watch? Nope.  AirPods? Nope.  Modern phones and iPads? Nope.  To base your editorial on Samsung's reliance on past copying is about as relevant as someone writing an editorial in 2019 based on Antennae-gate iPhone 4.
    Apple may no longer quote iPhone sales figures, and Samsung always optimistically reports numbers of phones made rather than actually sold. 
    You gotta source for that little nugget?  Afaik, Samsung never reported their numbers and both companies record their sales in almost the exact same way.  Shipped.

    I seriously doubt Samsung would introduce a streaming service.  They have no reason to do so.  You're right that they have the same large audience that Apple does.  Though they don't have the same need for services that Apple does.  Samsung is a conglomerate with multiple parts.  They rely on different parts at different times to support the whole.  Sometimes phones floats the boat.  Sometimes it chips.  Sometimes it's the S. Korean government easing punishment on Samsung execs.  :D Besides, Samsung is terrible at services and their management seems to know it.  They're a better facilitator. Get all those services on their TV's seems to be a more rational goal for Samsung.

    It would be really surprising if Samsung debuted a streaming service.  On the outside chance they did, I'd bet it would be a local streaming service where they wouldn't be bidding against established players for expensive content.


    Bruh. Sam absolutely copied Apple on tablets (the same as the phones) and the watch. Samsung knee Apple was developing the watch for years. They barely beat Apple to the market with on ok product. Then Apple released theirs and Samsung altered time fit the Apple model. 

    Music? Check. 

    Wireless earphones? Check. You really need to do some research. 

    Samsung uses Apple as their R&D dept. it’s dark comedy. 

    Samsung tried to do something on their own with the Fold. It sucks. 

    I doubt they keep pushing it. Probably go the Microsoft route in the future. 

    Samsung makes some of the best TVs and some nice washers, dryers, and refrigerators. 

    All of their CE devices are straight up ripoffs of Apple. In fact, they full on shamlelessly apes the look and software experience until they were found guilty. 

    They don’t even have their own roadmap. It’s based on apples. Their game is to learn what Apple is doing, and try to get to market doing the same thing but get their first. Corporate espionage is not new for them. Straight up plagiarism is not new. 

    And the times they didn’t know enough of what Apple was doing, so their product stank, they just waited for Apple to reveal their hand and then came out with an update or new revision. 

    Samsung is a copy machine. It’s just how it is. 


    I need to do some research?  Tee hee.  Pots and kettles come to mind.  Bud, history backs my claims.  There's nothing I claimed that can't be backed with actual facts.  You on the other hand?  I seriously doubt you could produce a single fact to support your assertions about the watch and headphones.  Let me save you some time.  There are no facts that support your assertions.  By the time the Apple watch was released in 2015, Samsung was already on their 4th watch model.  The Gear Icon X (now Galaxy Buds) were released before the AirPods and have had the same design language throughout.  Never remotely resembled AirPods.  

    Like I said, the copied Apple design language early on.  The last Galaxy phone to even partially look like an iPhone was the S2 (it really didn't look like an iPhone, there was UI copying).  To be fair, every tablet is going to resemble the iPad since the general shape of tablets has never changed.  But even in AI comparison of the iPad Pro and Tab 6, you can see the difference between the two designs - front and back.
    The actual fact is that Apple had a wristwatch computer long before Samsung.

    https://www.cultofmac.com/57492/new-ipod-nano-more-than-just-a-pretty-wristwatch/
    The actual actual fact is that Samsung had a wristwatch-computer-phone/w even rudimentary voice control... more than a decade before the ipod nano.  Say hello to the Samsung SPH-WP10.  Now I don't list this as a these guys did it first flag in the sand (they didn't do it first).  That's an activity for fanboy idiots.  I list it as more evidence to back my claim that Samsung's watch efforts predate the Apple watch.  
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=27&v=NmKDn356Etk
    Unlike that steam-punk boat anchor, the iPod Nano was actually both truly wearable and popular. But thanks for showing us what a smart-watch SHOULDN’T look like....
    Unlike that steam-punk boat anchor, the iPod Nano doesn't support the argued point of the discussion... no matter how popular.
    avon b7williamlondon
  • Reply 47 of 47
    Fatman said:
    Fact: These pockets belong to ‘wealthier’ people with higher educations that are willing to spend more money than Android users.
    fact: more television is watched by people with lower educations and less money.

    sounds like both google and samsung are missing a huge opportunity
    Define “television.”   Is this stat true of Netflix?  HBO?  Hulu?  All services which require a reasonably fast internet connection.  Therein lies the divide.
    Define fast. We're not talking about live sport here. 
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