Why are so many analysts suddenly positive about AAPL? AAPL has been surging this year. Something smells fishy. Pump and Dump before Oct 30 quarterly report? This certainly doesn’t jive with the resident experts here on AI who are saying just the opposite.
No, not pump and dump.
Drive the price high by creating unrealistic expectations. Borrow a load of shares and then sell them. Then put out loads of bad news to crash the share price. Buy back the shares at a lower price. Give back the shares to the mug who lent them to you. Pocket the difference. Can't remember the name for that. Anyone?
"Short selling" I think? I still don't understand why a mug would lend shares out. Seems risky to both parties especially considering you may not get them back if the price skyrockets. Maybe this has happened causing analysts to trash Apple?
Wow just checked out the comments forum a Mac Rumors on a story about Tim Cook. Those guys are even bigger homophobes than AI readers. If you doubt me notice how AI never opened the comments option on its story about Cook and "coming out".
It's MACRUMORS where idiots around the world bash anything Apple. Tim Cook could announce he's straight and they'd all turn gay and bash him anyway.
I believe AI disabled comments because people, myself included, don't like Tim injecting his personal politics into a tech company. I don't see homophobic comments on AI but lots of these.
When you are part of a minority it's called "personal politics", when you are of the majority it's just opinions. Jobs the visionary had lots of at the time could be considered hippie ideas, today they would be considered radical.
Why are so many analysts suddenly positive about AAPL? AAPL has been surging this year. Something smells fishy. Pump and Dump before Oct 30 quarterly report? This certainly doesn’t jive with the resident experts here on AI who are saying just the opposite.
They were bearish when the shorts were big to meet those price points. Now that that won't work in their favor due to Apple making it impossible they have to be bullish because Apple has righted their ship, even amidst the idiot in chief and his moronic trade policy stunts on tariffs.
“Idiot in chief”? His policies are working. If they weren’t, the “end of the world” claims his opponents made before he was elected would’ve already happened. What matters is performance, not likability. And in that respect, he has exceeded all expectations. I could care less if people feel hatred or warm and fuzzies when they talk about him.
His appointees that don't believe in science are not exactly preventing the end of the world either.
Why are so many analysts suddenly positive about AAPL? AAPL has been surging this year. Something smells fishy. Pump and Dump before Oct 30 quarterly report? This certainly doesn’t jive with the resident experts here on AI who are saying just the opposite.
They were bearish when the shorts were big to meet those price points. Now that that won't work in their favor due to Apple making it impossible they have to be bullish because Apple has righted their ship, even amidst the idiot in chief and his moronic trade policy stunts on tariffs.
“Idiot in chief”? His policies are working. If they weren’t, the “end of the world” claims his opponents made before he was elected would’ve already happened. What matters is performance, not likability. And in that respect, he has exceeded all expectations. I could care less if people feel hatred or warm and fuzzies when they talk about him.
His appointees that don't believe in science are not exactly preventing the end of the world either.
If you are waiting for government to change the world, well then, it will never happen. Make the differences yourselves, you and your neighbors. Most of the people bitching about Trump and the environment aren't even recycling their own beer bottles. Stop consuming, and that is the biggest difference you can make.
Why are so many analysts suddenly positive about AAPL? AAPL has been surging this year. Something smells fishy. Pump and Dump before Oct 30 quarterly report? This certainly doesn’t jive with the resident experts here on AI who are saying just the opposite.
They were bearish when the shorts were big to meet those price points. Now that that won't work in their favor due to Apple making it impossible they have to be bullish because Apple has righted their ship, even amidst the idiot in chief and his moronic trade policy stunts on tariffs.
“Idiot in chief”? His policies are working. If they weren’t, the “end of the world” claims his opponents made before he was elected would’ve already happened. What matters is performance, not likability. And in that respect, he has exceeded all expectations. I could care less if people feel hatred or warm and fuzzies when they talk about him.
His appointees that don't believe in science are not exactly preventing the end of the world either.
Feel free to provide evidence the world is ending.
We won't know till it happens, but one thought being tossed about is that the analysts are changing their opinion of Apple and starting to view it as a steady revenue producer rather than being dependent on yearly success of the iPhone introductions. If so, this would move the P/E higher. Today the P/E is almost 21. Historically it has been more like 15 or so. The hope is that it grows to about 25. That plus growing revenue and reduced share count due to buy-backs all contribute to a rising share price.
Interesting that the device's importance due to profit (release dates) outweighs the performance of an Operating System that just works out of the gate? OS's have become so complicated with each passing year that I assume code writers for each must be hard-pressed to keep up with their collaborations and meeting a release deadline?
9/19 Apple releases iOS 13;
9/24 Apple releases iOS 13.1;
9/27 Apple releases iOS 13.1.1;
9/30 Apple releases iOS 13.1.2;
This is usual par for the course behavior for analysts. Primarily it is because iPhone sales are much better than initially expected. So the stock go back up to where it should be and everyone jumps on the bandwagon. If Apple announce bullish numbers for this quarter then expect the analysts to first go wild and then start to spread FUD to drive the price down. Worth to note, many iPhone purchases may be held off for Nov to take advantage of the AppleTV+ deal when purchasing a device. I know I am holding off for a few weeks now that I am eligible for an upgrade.
Correct me if I am wrong but the offer was the free year if anything purchased after September surely? It's the launch that is on November 1st not the commencement of the offer.
I think you are correct. I believe the offer of a free one year subscription with iPhone purchase went live on 10 Sept 2019.
From Apples website:
$4.99/month after free trial. One subscription per Family Sharing group. Offer good for 3 months after eligible device activation, starting November 1, 2019. Plan automatically renews until cancelled. Restrictions and other terms apply.
So I read that the offer starts Nov 1. However the terms does talk about past offers.
Anyway for me I can wait a few weeks since my phone is now just eligible for upgrade.
This is usual par for the course behavior for analysts. Primarily it is because iPhone sales are much better than initially expected. So the stock go back up to where it should be and everyone jumps on the bandwagon. If Apple announce bullish numbers for this quarter then expect the analysts to first go wild and then start to spread FUD to drive the price down. Worth to note, many iPhone purchases may be held off for Nov to take advantage of the AppleTV+ deal when purchasing a device. I know I am holding off for a few weeks now that I am eligible for an upgrade.
Correct me if I am wrong but the offer was the free year if anything purchased after September surely? It's the launch that is on November 1st not the commencement of the offer.
I think you are correct. I believe the offer of a free one year subscription with iPhone purchase went live on 10 Sept 2019.
From Apples website:
$4.99/month after free trial. One subscription per Family Sharing group. Offer good for 3 months after eligible device activation, starting November 1, 2019. Plan automatically renews until cancelled. Restrictions and other terms apply.
So I read that the offer starts Nov 1. However the terms does talk about past offers.
Anyway for me I can wait a few weeks since my phone is now just eligible for upgrade.
This is the one I was recalling (from the official press release dated 10 September 2019):
"Starting today, customers who purchase any iPhone, iPad, Apple TV, iPod touch or Mac can enjoy one year of Apple TV+ for free"
This is usual par for the course behavior for analysts. Primarily it is because iPhone sales are much better than initially expected. So the stock go back up to where it should be and everyone jumps on the bandwagon. If Apple announce bullish numbers for this quarter then expect the analysts to first go wild and then start to spread FUD to drive the price down. Worth to note, many iPhone purchases may be held off for Nov to take advantage of the AppleTV+ deal when purchasing a device. I know I am holding off for a few weeks now that I am eligible for an upgrade.
Correct me if I am wrong but the offer was the free year if anything purchased after September surely? It's the launch that is on November 1st not the commencement of the offer.
I think you are correct. I believe the offer of a free one year subscription with iPhone purchase went live on 10 Sept 2019.
From Apples website:
$4.99/month after free trial. One subscription per Family Sharing group. Offer good for 3 months after eligible device activation, starting November 1, 2019. Plan automatically renews until cancelled. Restrictions and other terms apply.
So I read that the offer starts Nov 1. However the terms does talk about past offers.
Anyway for me I can wait a few weeks since my phone is now just eligible for upgrade.
It only means the trial will start at Nov 1st, not the eligible purchase date. You can buy iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch and Mac now and eligible for the trail when it starts on Nov 1st.
Why are so many analysts suddenly positive about AAPL? AAPL has been surging this year. Something smells fishy. Pump and Dump before Oct 30 quarterly report? This certainly doesn’t jive with the resident experts here on AI who are saying just the opposite.
They were bearish when the shorts were big to meet those price points. Now that that won't work in their favor due to Apple making it impossible they have to be bullish because Apple has righted their ship, even amidst the idiot in chief and his moronic trade policy stunts on tariffs.
“Idiot in chief”? His policies are working. If they weren’t, the “end of the world” claims his opponents made before he was elected would’ve already happened. What matters is performance, not likability. And in that respect, he has exceeded all expectations. I could care less if people feel hatred or warm and fuzzies when they talk about him.
By that token you must have fully supported Obama as the economy took off under his terms after withering under Bush.
Why are so many analysts suddenly positive about AAPL? AAPL has been surging this year. Something smells fishy. Pump and Dump before Oct 30 quarterly report? This certainly doesn’t jive with the resident experts here on AI who are saying just the opposite.
No, not pump and dump.
Drive the price high by creating unrealistic expectations. Borrow a load of shares and then sell them. Then put out loads of bad news to crash the share price. Buy back the shares at a lower price. Give back the shares to the mug who lent them to you. Pocket the difference. Can't remember the name for that. Anyone?
"Short selling" I think? I still don't understand why a mug would lend shares out. Seems risky to both parties especially considering you may not get them back if the price skyrockets. Maybe this has happened causing analysts to trash Apple?
Wow just checked out the comments forum a Mac Rumors on a story about Tim Cook. Those guys are even bigger homophobes than AI readers. If you doubt me notice how AI never opened the comments option on its story about Cook and "coming out".
It's MACRUMORS where idiots around the world bash anything Apple. Tim Cook could announce he's straight and they'd all turn gay and bash him anyway.
I believe AI disabled comments because people, myself included, don't like Tim injecting his personal politics into a tech company. I don't see homophobic comments on AI but lots of these.
You don’t know Apple as well as you think you do. Supporting equal civil rights for US employees isn’t injecting personal politics, it’s just being a decent human being and is 100% in line with Jobs and his liberal causes. This is Apple.
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"Starting today, customers who purchase any iPhone, iPad, Apple TV, iPod touch or Mac can enjoy one year of Apple TV+ for free"
https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2019/09/apple-tv-launches-november-1-featuring-originals-from-the-worlds-greatest-storytellers/
By that token you must have fully supported Obama as the economy took off under his terms after withering under Bush.
You don’t know Apple as well as you think you do. Supporting equal civil rights for US employees isn’t injecting personal politics, it’s just being a decent human being and is 100% in line with Jobs and his liberal causes. This is Apple.